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Yankees make no deals prior to trade deadline
By Mike Axisa

4:35pm: “We had a lot of conversations. Some gained some traction, some were immediately rejected,” said Cashman to reporters. “It wasn’t a deep market at all. It wasn’t a deep pool to swim in. We didn’t get anything to lead us to a deal. We certainly explored it enough. Soriano was the big bat we got.”
 
Majorball said:
Yankees make no deals prior to trade deadline
By Mike Axisa

4:35pm: “We had a lot of conversations. Some gained some traction, some were immediately rejected,” said Cashman to reporters. “It wasn’t a deep market at all. It wasn’t a deep pool to swim in. We didn’t get anything to lead us to a deal. We certainly explored it enough. Soriano was the big bat we got.”
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And you admitted you didn't want him Cashman, so what is your response that in fact you did nothing...
 
Exactly - he trashes the owners (who deserved to be trashed on many levels) for going out and getting a hitter for a decrepit offense, yet over the last week since that deal - he does nothing but give us the old "we had discussions, we kicked the tires, we got close, nothing materialized, etc." Translation Brian - you did jackshit.
 
vette322 said:
Exactly - he trashes the owners (who deserved to be trashed on many levels) for going out and getting a hitter for a decrepit offense, yet over the last week since that deal - he does nothing but give us the old "we had discussions, we kicked the tires, we got close, nothing materialized, etc." Translation Brian - you did jackshit.
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Which brings me back to my corporate days and the deception and strategy that they have implemented. Hal and Hank could only allow Cashman to not field criticism from them if he was part of the fraud. This is about profitability. I found it funny that Cashman spilled his guts about the Soriano acquisition. You only do that if you want to get fired or you are part of the bigger picture. Getting fired is easy, however this is just the first phase of breaking down the old culture and turning the success equation to the balance sheet and not world series. We have only experienced the tip of the iceberg, next off season will be more telling but the direction of this franchise has been declared.
 
Majorball said:
Which brings me back to my corporate days and the deception and strategy that they have implemented. Hal and Hank could only allow Cashman to not field criticism from them if he was part of the fraud. This is about profitability. I found it funny that Cashman spilled his guts about the Soriano acquisition. You only do that if you want to get fired or you are part of the bigger picture. Getting fired is easy, however this is just the first phase of breaking down the old culture and turning the success equation to the balance sheet and not world series. We have only experienced the tip of the iceberg, next off season will be more telling but the direction of this franchise has been declared.
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Hopefully the idiot sons sell the team sooner rather than later. When not being able to write a larger check than the other team to procure talent Cashman has been as effective as wet toilet paper. With his words and inactions he is doing everything he can to be fired from this sinking rat ship although I think he has earned that on his own merits
 
I've said time and time again that Cashman is not a real general manager. He was just operating for years with a bank vault full of money.
 
Were there other teams acquiring good players? did I miss something?

The clueless hate continues, it was a dead market, deal with it.
 
RustySpan said:
Were there other teams acquiring good players? did I miss something?

The clueless hate continues, it was a dead market, deal with it.
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I agree with you about the market this year. There was just nothing going on. That being said I've had issues with Cashman long before.
 
...yup, I can understand Cashman not taking it up the poop chute because it appears that the only player they were even close to getting was Young. But what's the excuse for not at least getting something for Hughes and or Joba?
 
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yankeesince59 said:
...yup, I can understand Cashman not taking it up the poop chute because it appears that the only player they were even close to getting was Young. But what's the excuse for not at least getting something for Hughes and or Jobe?
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Same excuse....or reason that we've been saying over and over....cashman is a shitty GM and always has been. He's a check writer. Nothing more. When it came time to be creative, he's a zero.
 
Most likely the "excuse" is that nobody wanted them enough to offer anything NY can use right now, would you? the McCann thing was a joke, and just dumping them was not something they need to do.
 
To me it appeared the looming suspensions killed the trade deadline market.
 
RustySpan said:
Were there other teams acquiring good players? did I miss something?

The clueless hate continues, it was a dead market, deal with it.
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Yankees should have sold. When you finally understand that you might get the rest of it.
 
Most likely the "excuse" is that nobody wanted them enough to offer anything NY can use right now, would you? the McCann thing was a joke, and just dumping them was not something they need to do.
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...^^^ so you think Hughes and Joba should both be resigned next year?
 
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Yblue said:
Yankees should have sold. When you finally understand that you might get the rest of it.
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...Cashman should have been playing both sides as far as being buyers/sellers. IMO, once he found that he couldn't make the desired deals to bring some players that could help the team right away, he should have gone into the "selling" mode and try to look forward to 2014.
 
Messiah717 said:
To me it appeared the looming suspensions killed the trade deadline market.
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...could be, but for one, the 3 way deal in which Detroit got Iglesias and Boston got Peavy was actually fueled by the threat of suspensions.
 
RustySpan said:
Sold who?
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Whitesox got a pretty good prospect for peavy. The Yanks probably could have gotten something better for Kuroda. Cano might have helped replenish a barre farm system. Now they are facing a 2014 with even more
holes, a still barren farm system, staring an 8+ year deal for cano in the face, and a weak free agent market too boot. So by essentially standing pat for 2013. (Aside from the completely pointless soriano trade) they have pretty much screwed 2014 and who knows how much longer. As I have said they have NO direction. And they have a terrible GM in place to fox these numerous issues.
 
Yblue said:
Whitesox got a pretty good prospect for peavy. The Yanks probably could have gotten something better for Kuroda. Cano might have helped replenish a barre farm system. Now they are facing a 2014 with even more
holes, a still barren farm system, staring an 8+ year deal for cano in the face, and a weak free agent market too boot. So by essentially standing pat for 2013. (Aside from the completely pointless soriano trade) they have pretty much screwed 2014 and who knows how much longer. As I have said they have NO direction. And they have a terrible GM in place to fox these numerous issues.
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The farm is not barren, and just because you've quit on the season doesn't mean they have, selling Kuroda and Cano would have meant it's over for a team still over .500, how on earth is that smart?
 
RustySpan said:
The farm is not barren, and just because you've quit on the season doesn't mean they have, selling Kuroda and Cano would have meant it's over for a team still over .500, how on earth is that smart?
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Because this team isn't good enough. Without adding significant pieces they just are simply no a championship team. it's SMART to look toward the future for once. This team has no direction and look no further than this half assed buying effort. The GM and front office are not even on the same page. It's a total shit show. And yes the farm is barren. There are a few decent prospects in the lower levels but as we have seen the Yankees are full incapable of properly developing them.
 
...^^^ fwiw, I think the player development will improve under Oppenheimer.
 
yankeesince59 said:
...Cashman should have been playing both sides as far as being buyers/sellers. IMO, once he found that he couldn't make the desired deals to bring some players that could help the team right away, he should have gone into the "selling" mode and try to look forward to 2014.
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Bingo! I saw it the same way - when the market isn't breaking your way as a Buyer, Cashman had an opportunity to pivot to see if he could take advantage of it as a Seller. If acquiring Soriano was going to be just Part 1 of a bigger plan to add more bodies yesterday - he should have read the change and saw that plan was not gonna be possible. Instead, he could have gone into Sell mode.

I really think there was a lost opportunity to something positive for next year.
 
vette322 said:
Bingo! I saw it the same way - when the market isn't breaking your way as a Buyer, Cashman had an opportunity to pivot to see if he could take advantage of it as a Seller. If acquiring Soriano was going to be just Part 1 of a bigger plan to add more bodies yesterday - he should have read the change and saw that plan was not gonna be possible. Instead, he could have gone into Sell mode.
I really think there was a lost opportunity to something positive for next year.
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Essentially 2013 is a lost season. Usually in a season like that you at least would like to advance some prospects to become actual players, rid yourself of bad contracts and beef up the farm. The Yankees have added soriano contract and done nothing to advance any player to the majors to be a potential hole filler from next year. So tell me what is the plan for 2014? Overpay a bunch of crappy free agents?
 
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