Casspi up to #4 rookie

[crowTrobot]

http://www.nba.com/rookies/

casspi probably wouldn't have played much here if we were reasonably healthy, but still looking at his shooting percentages can't help but feel KP may have pritchslapped himself on this one. hard to imagine claver has a much higher ceiling.

 

[BenDavis503]

I like Casspi every time I have seen him play this year. He seems to have a lot to prove and a lot of pride being the first player from his country in the NBA.

 

[Nikolokolus]

I thought for sure KP was going to draft Casspi when he was still available at 23 (or whatever it was). I'll be shocked if Claver ever dons a Blazers uniform.

 

[MIXUM]

i really am thinking... kings and okc will pass us soon.

kp is very very overated

 

[Nikolokolus]

i really am thinking... kings and okc will pass us soon.

kp is very very overated

I'm becoming more and more inclined to agree.

 

[Wheels]

I do like Casspi but I understand why KP didnt draft him.. (at that time)

 

[BenDavis503]

i really am thinking... kings and okc will pass us soon.

kp is very very overated

I hate to say it...

I'm becoming more and more inclined to agree.

I am starting to agree.

I don't think KP is a bad GM. I am just starting to think that maybe he just got REALLY, REALLY lucky the first couple of years and just has made normal, mediocre GM moves since then.

 

[drexlersdad]

in hindsight, casspi is more nba ready, but i think that was the general assumption. not sure. claver seemed like a reach, but its a late #1 with high upside, might as well take a shot at a position of need.

 

[crowTrobot]

I thought for sure KP was going to draft Casspi when he was still available at 23 (or whatever it was). I'll be shocked if Claver ever dons a Blazers uniform.

presumably we were more concerned with preserving cap space than with what players were availiable at 22. as it turns out stashing claver made no difference to who we were able to sign.

 

[Wheels]

presumably we were more concerned with preserving cap space than with what players were availiable at 22. as it turns out stashing claver made no difference to who we were able to sign.

this.

 

[RR7]

At the time, everyone was healthy. I think he looked at Claver as having higher upside, and so figured without a need at that slot, why not go for hgih upside. I think it's unfair to say it is a bad pick because Casspi is playing here and Claver is not. Claver on Sacramento might be doing the same thing.

 

[RR7]

The cap space doesn't matter. Coming here or not, we would have had an issue with their cap hold.

 

[drexlersdad]

i really am thinking... kings and okc will pass us soon.

kp is very very overated

durant is good, but after that we kill them hands down. i mean...

roy = durant
lma>green
bayless>westbrook
rudy>harden
oden>krystic
batum>sefalosha
pryz>bj mullens
outlaw=ibaka, although i like ibaka, this might be closer than this.
miller>maynor, right now and possibly forever.

you fail

kings?????

roy>tyreke
lma>thompson
oden>hawes
batum>casspi
rudy>garcia
miller>udrih
outlaw<martin, wasnt sure where to put him, i think tyreke is more their roy. martin cant play defense at all and they are better without him it seems. same could be said of outlaw.
bayless>>>sergio (sorry maris)

you fail

 

[crowTrobot]

turkoglu is happy we drafted claver. toronto had to pay around 5 million more for him than they would have otherwise.

 

[crowTrobot]

The cap space doesn't matter. Coming here or not, we would have had an issue with their cap hold.

oops you're right. that only makes it feel worse though

 

[Luther]

Oden was definitely luck. Drafting Roy and Aldridge were both incredible moves. Buying the rights to Rudy was a steal. Trading Jack and Rush for Bayless, great move. Pendy was an awesome pick and so was Dante. I think Mills is going to be a good player in the league but obviously that is up for debate as of right now. Drafting Casspi didn't make any sense at the time. Batum, Webster and Outlaw were all healthy. I think Casspi is a damn good player and will continue to get better but I don't see how KP missed out on a player that wouldn't even break the rotation here if everyone is healthy. If anything he should have drafted Dajuan Blair.

 

[Rastapopoulos]

Anyone who thinks that Pritchard is not a great GM deserves to have Nash back. Jesus Christ people, get a grip.

Casspi is decent. He's exactly what the Kings need, which is a dose of toughness. He's, how shall I put this? Scrappy. But there are a LOT of players like that out there. In fact, he's sort of a poor man's young Nocioni. If we'd've drafted him and
(a) signed Turkoglu OR
(b) not had ALL the injuries we did have OR
both
nobody would know anything about how good he could be, because he would be getting zero minutes.

And then all you geniuses would be questioning Pritchard for taking a guy who's getting no minutes and has such a funky-looking shot.

 

[crowTrobot]

I think it's unfair to say it is a bad pick because Casspi is playing here and Claver is not. Claver on Sacramento might be doing the same thing.

coming off a major knee injury i doubt anyone would have expected him to.

 

[MARIS61]

Having watched about half of Sac's games they are clearly a rapidly developing team of highly athletic and intelligent players.
In any way you want to compare their year to ours so far, they win hands down.

Our team got slower and older and lost nearly all it's chemistry from last year, while Sac did the exact opposite.

Here's a more honest comparison of the teams:

Obviously, Oden> and Joel>.

Casspi>>>Claver
Brockman>Pendergraph
Tyreke=Roy
Thompson+Hawes<<<LMA
Udrih>Miller+Blake
Sergio>Bayless
Martin>Rudy
Garcia, Nocioni, Udoka>Batum,Travis,Webster

Westphal>McMillan.

 

[Luther]

Having watched about half of Sac's games they are clearly a rapidly developing team of highly athletic and intelligent players.
In any way you want to compare their year to ours so far, they win hands down.

Our team got slower and older and lost nearly all it's chemistry from last year, while Sac did the exact opposite.

Here's a more honest comparison of the teams:

Obviously, Oden> and Joel>.

Casspi>>>Claver
Brockman>Pendergraph
Tyreke=Roy
Thompson+Hawes<<<LMA
Udrih>Miller+Blake
Sergio>Bayless
Martin>Rudy
Garcia, Nocioni, Udoka>Batum,Travis,Webster

Westphal>McMillan.

This is either a really bad joke or you don't watch basketball.

 

[Rastapopoulos]

Jerebko (apparently the #6 rookie) is arguably better than Casspi. The Pistons are better off with him than the tired old shadow of Tayshaun.

 

[RR7]

Maybe, maybe not. He's playing now, so he might have with them.

Thing is, I remember similar complaints last year and the year before, about Freeland. Come on, soft white guy from England of all places? Looks terrible. New to the game. Never going to come over, was just a throw away pick. But then he started to look pretty good over there. And then people were clamoring to brign him over as a backup. Certtainly possible he still sucks, or sucks here. But I think reserving judgment is probably better than just looking and thinking oh, Casspi is looking good on a mediocre team, Claver isn't here, thus, KP is over rated.

 

[craigehlo]

i really am thinking... kings and okc will pass us soon.

kp is very very overated

I'm not terribly scared of OKC since they don't have a quality post scorer and are just good enough now to not get a top lottery pick.

I want to see what Sactown does with Kevin Martin before I'm taking them too seriously. If they can get a quality big man for him via trade, things get a lot more interesting in the West.

The team that scares me is the Jazz if their NY lottery pick turns out to be #1. DWill and John Wall could be a scary combo.

 

[RR7]

Yeah, I still like our future better than theirs. I don't think NY will suck bad enough to get them the top pick. Unless they get lucky going from 8-10. It's still a great chip to have, but I'm not overly concerned. With that pick, and Boozer leaving, I still don't think the makeup is all that great. Deron. That's it. Millsap is alright. Okur is not who I would want at C. I can't believe they gave him that extension last season. They should have waited on that, and sat with 20 million(Boozer and Okur) in expirings this season. 20 million in expirings, alongside their pick, NY's Deron and Millsa pwould get me a little more excited or worried. As is? Sloan will be gone in a year or so, I think, and they'll start to crumble.

 

[Kaydow]

I'm not terribly scared of OKC since they don't have a quality post scorer and are just good enough now to not get a top lottery pick.

I want to see what Sactown does with Kevin Martin before I'm taking them too seriously. If they can get a quality big man for him via trade, things get a lot more interesting in the West.

The team that scares me is the Jazz if their NY lottery pick turns out to be #1. DWill and John Wall could be a scary combo.

Interesting to see what they do with Boozer also. They won't resign him . . . do they trade him at the deadline? He is an expiring and could be a decent rent-a-player for a team trying to make a run. What do they get back for him?

 

[illmatic99]

Pendy's looking good, btw.

 

[crowTrobot]

I'm not terribly scared of OKC since they don't have a quality post scorer and are just good enough now to not get a top lottery pick.

they will have over 10 million in cap space in what will be a huge buyers FA market, plus 2 mid first rounders to use in trade if they need to. they shouldn't have any problem filling needs.

 

[oldmangrouch]

At the time, everyone was healthy. I think he looked at Claver as having higher upside, and so figured without a need at that slot, why not go for hgih upside. I think it's unfair to say it is a bad pick because Casspi is playing here and Claver is not. Claver on Sacramento might be doing the same thing.

Highly doubtful. Claver looks like a tweener, in the bad sense of the term. Too slow to play SF at the NBA level, and too weak/soft to play PF. Casspi and Claver are comparable in size, but Casspi has the mobility of a true SF.

If Claver gets 100% healthy, he might be a smarter, but much less athletic, version of Travis. Whoop-dee-diddle-do.

 

[andalusian]

Tyreke=Roy

Maybe in 2 - 3 years. Right now... Bah.

Sergio>Bayless

Is that why his PER is lower than Bayless and his winscore, in about the same minutes as about 33% of what Bayless contributed?

Garcia, Nocioni, Udoka>Batum,Travis,Webster

Given that Travis and Batum are wounded, I will give you that. When they are healthy, it's not even a question.

In any way you want to compare their year to ours so far, they win hands down.

Is that why they are 14-16 and we are 20-13? Me thinks you do not understand what "win" really means.

Give me a freaking break. Sacramento is doing very well, Evans is great, he has a chance to be a superstar in this league. Other than that, they are a nice story - and could be good if they figure out what to do with Martin when he comes back or they trade him. Until then, even our depleted mash unit is a better team than what they have.

 

[LittleAlex]

I'm not terribly scared of OKC since they don't have a quality post scorer and are just good enough now to not get a top lottery pick.

I want to see what Sactown does with Kevin Martin before I'm taking them too seriously. If they can get a quality big man for him via trade, things get a lot more interesting in the West.

The team that scares me is the Jazz if their NY lottery pick turns out to be #1. DWill and John Wall could be a scary combo.

I agree.


OKC are decent but they are still a ways off from being a contender. No inside scoring + questionable point guard play is not really going to get it done. Maybe two more years before they can challenge for the playoffs.

Sactown has Evens and just about no one else. They are years away from being a legitimate playoff team.

Jazz with the number one pick is a big time threat depending on where New York lands in the lottery. The eastern conference being as bad as it is at the bottom it is possible New York could make the playoffs in the 8th spot, which would be the best possible outcome.