China Game - 4:45 a.m. - NBC Olympic Basketball Channel

[SportsTicker]

China vs. Lithuania.

On Comcast, the NBC Olympic Basketball Channel is on channel 183. Don't know where it is on other cable providers.

If China wins--and it might--it will face the winner of Spain-Croatia, which precedes it. That would put China into the Final Four.

If China loses--and it probably will--it will face the loser of Spain-Croatia.

The Olympics rank the final eight through consolation games.

And the game will be on "rewind" probably as early as 8 or 9 a.m. at this url:

http://www.nbcolympics.com/basketball/resultsandschedules/index.html

 

[soul driver]

I'm pulling for a china win, and I'd love to see a rematch against Spain. Would be entertaining for the crowd and everyone watching, and I think China has a legit chance to take the game the 2nd time around.

 

[danxcr]

i think its on USA as well... according to the nbcolympics tv listing

 

[DynastYWarrioR6]

China lost, and I'm disappointed. It pisses me off to see some of the chinese players play so passively, and that is probably because I'm chinese and I play aggresively and do alot of yelling on defense and offense. They panic too much and it leads to horrible shots or turnovers. When the guards pass it into Yao they should throw it higher and just let him get it, especially if they are on his back. If there is a guard trying to double team Yao for the cheap steal, you gotta let him know that he's coming, which they don't do, THEN get themselves set in position in the shooting motion or be ready to make a quick pass. China spaces themselves out too much, which nullifies any kind of quick passing.

Man I want to play for my people or coach them or something....shiet

 

[chingd15]

China lost, and I'm disappointed. It pisses me off to see some of the chinese players play so passively, and that is probably because I'm chinese and I play aggresively and do alot of yelling on defense and offense. They panic too much and it leads to horrible shots or turnovers. When the guards pass it into Yao they should throw it higher and just let him get it, especially if they are on his back. If there is a guard trying to double team Yao for the cheap steal, you gotta let him know that he's coming, which they don't do, THEN get themselves set in position in the shooting motion or be ready to make a quick pass. China spaces themselves out too much, which nullifies any kind of quick passing.

Man I want to play for my people or coach them or something....shiet

I am Chinese, too and I agree, the team is just not really coached well and someone needs to show the guards how to play basketball because these guards stink...

 

[ffz]

Yi was pretty good when he was in there. He picked up fouls though so he couldnt play long. I thought he was a very effective rebounder.

The chinese guards are scrubs. They cant pass and they can't defend and in this game they couldn't shoot. They have to learn to play physical and fight through screens. There is no excuse for getting picked off so easily! Fight through it! I'm looking foward to 2010. Maybe then Yao will retire from CNT and it will be all on Yi. I hope he can handle the pressure then.

 

[YehYeh]

The other team was better. Much better. Their sagging defense shut down Yao and the Chinese guards came up empty on the perimeter. The other way, they ran and shot effectively. Olympic basketball is about interior defense and 3 point shots. They did both well.

 

[pegs]

The other team was better. Much better. Their sagging defense shut down Yao and the Chinese guards came up empty on the perimeter. The other way, they ran and shot effectively. Olympic basketball is about interior defense and 3 point shots. They did both well.

Well, I guess the guards - and Yi - will have to work on their 3 point shooting up until the next Olympics.

Quite a disappointment that they weren't able to come up big, although not too surprising considering the talent of Lithuania's shooters.

Welcome to S2, YehYeh. If you have any questions, let me, fellow Nets mod GMJigga, or any other mod know.

 

[GMJ]

The other team was better. Much better. Their sagging defense shut down Yao and the Chinese guards came up empty on the perimeter. The other way, they ran and shot effectively. Olympic basketball is about interior defense and 3 point shots. They did both well.

Hey YehYeh welcome to S2! Feel free to send myself or Pegs a PM if you have any questions about the site.

 

[danxcr]

umm i watched the game and Yi sat most of the 2nd half with 3 fouls... 3... not 4... 3... the coach forgot bout him... he dominated the first quarter with 6 points and like 8 rebs... and china was outcoached... and they kept sayin it... well snapper kept sayin it... the CNT is way too soft... lith just kept bumpin them... this is the medal round... u gotta get a bit tougher... and also he said... when they are open for the 3 they pass into yao... when they are contested they take the 3... they didnt have an identity... and lith exposed all of CNT's weaknesses

 

[Netted]

umm i watched the game and Yi sat most of the 2nd half with 3 fouls... 3... not 4... 3... the coach forgot bout him... he dominated the first quarter with 6 points and like 8 rebs... and china was outcoached... and they kept sayin it... well snapper kept sayin it... the CNT is way too soft... lith just kept bumpin them... this is the medal round... u gotta get a bit tougher... and also he said... when they are open for the 3 they pass into yao... when they are contested they take the 3... they didnt have an identity... and lith exposed all of CNT's weaknesses

I believe it's 5 fouls to foul out in international play not 6. It's like college.

 

[YehYeh]

Thanks for the welcome, guys.

umm i watched the game and Yi sat most of the 2nd half with 3 fouls... 3... not 4... 3... the coach forgot bout him... he dominated the first quarter with 6 points and like 8 rebs... and china was outcoached... and they kept sayin it... well snapper kept sayin it... the CNT is way too soft... lith just kept bumpin them... this is the medal round... u gotta get a bit tougher... and also he said... when they are open for the 3 they pass into yao... when they are contested they take the 3... they didnt have an identity... and lith exposed all of CNT's weaknesses

That they did. Lithuania had more better players.

Yi was pretty good when he was in there. He picked up fouls though so he couldnt play long. I thought he was a very effective rebounder.

Yi did dominate the first quarter. Yao was swarmed, and Yi scored and rebounded enough to keep China even. When Yi was benched China lost.

Yi was also slowing down the Lit running game. When a big man runs with the guards like Yi does, he gives his team a 4 on 3 advantage on all breaks until the other bigs catch up.

 

[danxcr]

I believe it's 5 fouls to foul out in international play not 6. It's like college.

I KNOW... but it was 3 fouls... he sat out the 3rd with 9 mins left till the 4th with 2:55mins left... are u kidding him? u couldnt give him another shot? and the game was slippin away... and its single elim... its to advance? u couldnt take a shot or the gamble? hes one of ur best players and u sit him in the 2nd half for 17 mins? are u kidding me? jesus... he had such a great start... but the CNT team was out coached...

that coach for the CNT was from lith... i now see why he was replaced... he didnt establish a game plan for the chinese... sad to see... they had the talent to beat em... just sad

 

[ffz]

He got his 4th foul like 1 minute after he went in during the 3rd. That forced Jonas K to play Du Feng. Reallly Yi played a good 1st quarter and got in foul trouble, but hes gotta learn to play smarter when hes in foul trouble. I dont blame him for his fouls though. Lithuania were hacking all over yao and they call Yi for some ticky tack shit.

 

[danxcr]

He got his 4th foul like 1 minute after he went in during the 3rd. That forced Jonas K to play Du Feng. Reallly Yi played a good 1st quarter and got in foul trouble, but hes gotta learn to play smarter when hes in foul trouble. I dont blame him for his fouls though. Lithuania were hacking all over yao and they call Yi for some ticky tack shit.

ya the officials of that game were pretty bad... they were so many bad calls... omg in the NBA that would 5 fouls on their startin center... jesus they abused yao down there

 

[YehYeh]

That's all true. Yao is the superstar in China and on that team, and Yi is the upstart trying to take shots away from him, so he is benched. End of game.

But you shouldn't blame the coach for not having the guards to win, for all those rushed and missed shots, for Yao's slowness up and downcourt. Nor can you take away the great transition play, passing, and hitting open 3's from Lit. Gotto give those guys some credit too.

 

[danxcr]

That's all true. Yao is the superstar in China and on that team, and Yi is the upstart trying to take shots away from him, so he is benched. End of game.

But you shouldn't blame the coach for not having the guards to win, for all those rushed and missed shots, for Yao's slowness up and downcourt. Nor can you take away the great transition play, passing, and hitting open 3's from Lit. Gotto give those guys some credit too.

upstart of takin shot away from yao? are u kidding me? yao couldnt even position himself to give his guards the angle for the pass... pls... get off yao's balls... he needs to be more assertive in the post... lith just bodied him with 6'10" Centers and he showed hes too nice...

PLS Yi actually came to play... and ya i can blame the coach for not having the identity... and not coming out ready for physical play... thats the coaches job...

 

[Netted]

I KNOW... but it was 3 fouls... he sat out the 3rd with 9 mins left till the 4th with 2:55mins left... are u kidding him? u couldnt give him another shot? and the game was slippin away... and its single elim... its to advance? u couldnt take a shot or the gamble? hes one of ur best players and u sit him in the 2nd half for 17 mins? are u kidding me? jesus... he had such a great start... but the CNT team was out coached...

that coach for the CNT was from lith... i now see why he was replaced... he didnt establish a game plan for the chinese... sad to see... they had the talent to beat em... just sad

Yes you take him out. You don't let one of your key guys pick up 4 fouls in the first half. It's a long game and you hope the other players can keep it close.

 

[danxcr]

Yes you take him out. You don't let one of your key guys pick up 4 fouls in the first half. It's a long game and you hope the other players can keep it close.

no no... he took him out of the 3rd... with 3 fouls and didnt put him back in until the 4th quarter with 3 mins left... are u kidding me? i understand sit him for most of the 3rd... but the CNT was losing the game... and u couldnt risk it?!?! i mean its a do or die game...

ok if i remember correctly its 9:47 left in the third he goes out and comes back in a little in the 4th and picked up his 4th foul than sat down until 2:57 left in the 4th... ARGH ...

whatever they lost but to add the coach sucked... he didnt have a plan against lith and it showed

 

[Netted]

no no... he took him out of the 3rd... with 3 fouls and didnt put him back in until the 4th quarter with 3 mins left... are u kidding me? i understand sit him for most of the 3rd... but the CNT was losing the game... and u couldnt risk it?!?! i mean its a do or die game...

ok if i remember correctly its 9:47 left in the third he goes out and comes back in a little in the 4th and picked up his 4th foul than sat down until 2:57 left in the 4th... ARGH ...

whatever they lost but to add the coach sucked... he didnt have a plan against lith and it showed

My bad... when I saw your original post I mistook 2nd half for 2nd quarter.

 

[danxcr]

My bad... when I saw your original post I mistook 2nd half for 2nd quarter.

oh ok... and wheres that other guy talkin bout Yi takin shots away from yao... he obviously didnt watch the tourney cuz Yi only takes 4-7 shots a game... GRRR seriously the CNT coach cant coach... i hope frank puts Yi in a position to succeed

 

[YehYeh]

oh ok... and wheres that other guy talkin bout Yi takin shots away from yao... he obviously didnt watch the tourney cuz Yi only takes 4-7 shots a game...

No,no,no. How could you miss that?

In the first quarter Yi took the shots and rebounded because Yao was swarmed. The score was tied with a minute to go in the first quarter because Yi was making shots.

THEN, for no reason, near the end of 1st qtr the coach benched Yi. In the second quarter Lit went up 11. That's what I'm talking about.

You've got to blame Yao for not passing out to Yi more. You also have to blame the coach for playing politics for Yao, and because of that, taking Yi out. Yao was supposed to be the star, not Yi. That's what happened.

Yao needed to sacrifice his points and let Yi play. The coach needed to let Yi play until he fouled out. Yao didn't do that. The coach didn't do that. China would've lost anyway, but they blew China's ONLY chance to stay close.

 

[danxcr]

No,no,no. How could you miss that?

In the first quarter Yi took the shots and rebounded because Yao was swarmed. The score was tied with a minute to go in the first quarter because Yi was making shots.

THEN, for no reason, near the end of 1st qtr the coach benched Yi. In the second quarter Lit went up 11. That's what I'm talking about.

You've got to blame Yao for not passing out to Yi more. You also have to blame the coach for playing politics for Yao, and because of that, taking Yi out. Yao was supposed to be the star, not Yi. That's what happened.

Yao needed to sacrifice his points and let Yi play. The coach needed to let Yi play until he fouled out. Yao didn't do that. The coach didn't do that. China would've lost anyway, but they blew China's ONLY chance to stay close.

ahhh yes... yao fkin sucks and he too soft... lith just bodied him... Yi actually played like a man...and the coach sucks!

 

[YehYeh]

Yi stats
http://www.fiba.com/pages/eng/fe/08...oundid/4004/season//fe_teamPlay_playStat.html

9 and 7.5. In 2012 he will be 20 an 10.