Cho sounds like (his interview) he's blowing it up

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Unlike some of his predecessors, Cho doesn't seem to telegraph his moves publicly. I think we need to get used to that reality and stop freaking out over our reading of the tea leaves. Since that's your schtick, however, I understand if you soldier on.
 
New Rule for these bullshit posts. Be specific or stop posting. Don't just make a statement, back it up with a complete quote. What specific things did he say that makes you think he is going to blow it up?
 
New Rule for these bullshit posts. Be specific or stop posting. Don't just make a statement, back it up with a complete quote. What specific things did he say that makes you think he is going to blow it up?

My guess it's this one:

Thanks, Jason. It's good to be back on The Fan
 
Personally I think where he says "not a quick fix" and " be patient" and "things changed with gregband bran dons injuries"

Those are usually translation for rebuild. Just my opinion. Anyone know about sellout streak?
 
Personally I think where he says "not a quick fix" and " be patient" and "things changed with gregband bran dons injuries"

Those are usually translation for rebuild. Just my opinion. Anyone know about sellout streak?

It can also mean that he does not expect the trades at the deadline to immediately make the team a contender because at least one of these guys (Greg) will not be there this year...

In other words, who knows what he means? Maybe his long-term plan is to go gluten free or replace dairy products with soy-based products and he thinks it will take a while for this to fix whatever gastro issues he is facing?
 
Personally I think where he says "not a quick fix" and " be patient" and "things changed with gregband bran dons injuries"

Those are usually translation for rebuild. Just my opinion. Anyone know about sellout streak?

My question for you is this: Do you A) believe there is a quick fix? and B) do you think things changed with Greg and Bradon's injury situations? I sure as hell do, but I don't think there's an implied prescription in those statements.
 
My question for you is this: Do you A) believe there is a quick fix? and B) do you think things changed with Greg and Bradon's injury situations? I sure as hell do, but I don't think there's an implied prescription in those statements.

Technically, that is two questions. Also, was your answer to the first question (a quick fix is available), or the second question (things changed w/injuries to 'pillars')?
 
One thing you have to remember, too, Brandon had two surgeries before the draft and then he's had two surgeries after the draft. He's had two surgeries on both knees, they're all lateral meniscus related

Wouldn't this indicate Roy still has his medical meniscus in both knees?
 
Canzano: Trail Blazers pick the wrong time to be in a rush
Published: Thursday, January 20, 2011, 3:14 PM *** Updated: Thursday, January 20, 2011, 3:24 PM
By John Canzano, The Oregonian
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Marcus Camby leads the Blazers in rebounding.
If you're swallowing the company line at One Center Court then you might believe that Trail Blazers center Marcus Camby emerged from his knee surgery on Thursday, jogging and dribbling a basketball.

He did not.

Portland's announcement that Camby will return from arthroscopic knee surgery in three weeks was a puzzling one.

Three weeks? Camby?

Feels too soon. Until you realize that what we have here is not a timetable, but some old-fashioned posturing. Three weeks isn't a timetable for Camby's return, it's more or less a countdown to the trade deadline, which the Blazers would have you believe is a remarkable coincidence.

Nevermind that Camby has been a slow healer in his career. Nevermind that anyone who has coached him will tell you the center doesn't like to be pushed before he's ready. He's a later-rather-than-sooner type when it comes to healing from an injury.

Still, Camby got operated on Thursday in Vancouver, Wash., and when he came out, he found his ride home waiting. Also, he found this very public three-week deadline to get back on the court.

So we've stepped into a giant poker game, haven't we?

You might note that while Camby has been injury-prone in his career, he is not known as a faker. Those who have played with him understand that his career has been marked by injuries, and dings, and he's missed games. But they believe him to be a warrior, who wants to be on the court but just takes his time. He's missed so many games over his career that the contract the Blazers inherited when they traded for him included four tiers of provisions and incentives.

"They had stuff in there for games played, and games missed, and it was very complex," said a Blazers source who reviewed the contract. "It was huge. He missed a ton of incentives."

Camby turns 37 in March. He's just undergone a surgery to repair a partial medial meniscus tear. He has one year remaining on his Blazers contract. But what the organization has turned him into now is a stooge, who they hope will try to rush back and make it appear as though the team is in a better bargaining position.

Portland would like to trade Joel Przybilla before the trade deadline. There's a market for a 7-foot center who could be a wonderful back-up. Trouble is, Przybilla has looked stiff and immobile. He hasn't jumped well since surgery to repair a ruptured patellar tendon. Still, he's back and his contract will expire at the end of the season, so the Blazers are focused on trying to move him for the best piece they can get.

That's where Camby comes in, sort of.

Because if he appears ready to play (or close to it) before the deadline, he becomes more tradeable himself. Also, it makes the Blazers appear to have some leverage and depth at center instead of looking naked at that position should Przybilla be shipped out. Also, if Camby can get back and make the three-week miracle heal-job, even if he's playing 8-10 minutes a game, he helps the team.

I suppose it's not the worst thing to put deadline pressure on a human being. Some people respond wonderfully to them. So where was the deadline for Greg Oden? And why, post-Brandon Roy surgery, was no timetable trotted out? And why does everything this basketball organization do look so clumsy and forced?

Quit posturing. Let Camby heal. Trade Przybilla.

The Blazers feel preoccupied with minutia right now. They need to think big picture, not details. And if the future is going to be successful it's going to start in the next three weeks. Camby isn't the one who needs to heal -- the Blazers are.

Behind the scenes, owner Paul Allen is said to be impatient with how things have gone. Those who have talked with him say he's unwilling to give up anything of value in a trade and also is miffed that the Blazers froze and allowed the Oden exception to expire without using it. Furthermore, he has to be looking at the trade that sent Jerryd Bayless to New Orleans with his head turned sideways now, puzzled at how that deal doesn't currently appear likely to produce anything more than a late-teens draft pick.

Portland should have shot for the moon over the past month with its roster. It should have been thinking bold. Gunslinger moves. Maybe those would have included trading Camby. Maybe they wouldn't have. But not now. Not with him healing, post-surgery. Not with other teams looking at his future and wondering how effective he'll be.

All that flew away.

Now that three-week timetable just feels like a ticking clock.


-- John Canzano
 
I read the entire transcript and I don't think he said anything. He's definately mastered the "say a whole bunch of nothing" speak.
 
My question for you is this: Do you A) believe there is a quick fix? and B) do you think things changed with Greg and Bradon's injury situations? I sure as hell do, but I don't think there's an implied prescription in those statements.



See that is the "thing". I don't think the fix is quick if we blow it up or build around the guys we have. One is obviously way longer than the other. But today, with media, the internet, and other leaks to the public, it is virtualy impossible to be blowing up a team without it hitting the news somewhere. Just look at what has gone on with Lebron, and then Carmello. You can't keep deals out of the press anymore, and the fact that it happens, is starting to damage the ability to make deals IMO.
 
I think the Blazers will look to build around Aldridge, with Batum and Matthews being likely (but not certain) complementary pieces. Miller, Camby and Przybilla will all be available if another team offers something worthwhile that fits better with Aldridge's time frame, but they won't be given away for scraps.

Beyond that, Cho and the front office will simply try to improve the team at any chance possible, some of those moves aimed at the short-term, some aimed at the long-term. None of them aimed at getting worse (in talent) in order to get better draft position or more cap space.

At least, that's what I would do.
 
Isn't it really Canzano's issue if he "feels" something or not? I know it's not mine.
 
To me "blow it up" means moving LMA, Batum, and Matthews. So I don't think they are blowing it up. I mean you can't consider Roy or Oden as key players anymore. Miller, Camby, and Joel are all short-term players, so moving them is not blowing it up. Basically if LMA is untouchable, and Batum and Wesley are nearly untouchable than we are not blowing it up.
 
My initial reaction is blow up. What do youbguys think?

Ibthink youba sound like Fat Albert!

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See that is the "thing". I don't think the fix is quick if we blow it up or build around the guys we have. One is obviously way longer than the other. But today, with media, the internet, and other leaks to the public, it is virtualy impossible to be blowing up a team without it hitting the news somewhere. Just look at what has gone on with Lebron, and then Carmello. You can't keep deals out of the press anymore, and the fact that it happens, is starting to damage the ability to make deals IMO.

Ugh. I really have should typed that out as two questions. I hate typing on my Iphone.

I believe there is no quick fix, and that Brandon and Greg's injuries have definitely changed the game.
 
Basically if LMA is untouchable, and Batum and Wesley are nearly untouchable than we are not blowing it up.

I hope Batum and Matthews aren't "nearly untouchable." Batum has been my favourite Blazer for a couple of years, but I can't say either he or Matthews are just so good that they should be off the table. I don't think they should be throw-ins, and I think the prices for them should be moderately high...but they should very much be viewed as trade assets. Not that they have to be dealt, ultimately, but they should be the types of players Cho (or whoever else ends up making decisions) should be gauging trade value for with an eye to potentially make a big deal.
 
JC doing his best KP impersonation in that article is pretty funny.
 
I hope Batum and Matthews aren't "nearly untouchable." Batum has been my favourite Blazer for a couple of years, but I can't say either he or Matthews are just so good that they should be off the table. I don't think they should be throw-ins, and I think the prices for them should be moderately high...but they should very much be viewed as trade assets. Not that they have to be dealt, ultimately, but they should be the types of players Cho (or whoever else ends up making decisions) should be gauging trade value for with an eye to potentially make a big deal.

Well the thing is that basically any move you make with those guys is going to be lateral. That is the problem with good support players, they almost have more value to their current team because you know what you have in terms of chemistry. I would also say that Nic and Wesley both have potential to be very good players. LMA has the potential to be a franchise player. That is not a bad core in terms of talent, character, and marketability. All three play hard, seem to be of solid character, and play well in the media. While much of the product is what they bring you on the floor, there is something to be said for the other factors as well. The odds of actually winning the ring are low for 90% of all NBA teams, so you might as well have guys that give effort, don't embarrass you through their actions, and can relate well to the fans.
 
I love how Canzano always claims the moral high horse to pontificate on the Blazers. I have no idea whether Camby will be ready to play in 3 weeks or not and neither does Canzano. I do know that there have been players who have recovered that quickly from minor tears so I "feel" it could be a legitimate estimate. Could be that the Blazers are blowing smoke, as Canzano "feels". Man I wish Canzano would win another award for his drivel and move along to a bigger market.
 
Well the thing is that basically any move you make with those guys is going to be lateral. That is the problem with good support players, they almost have more value to their current team because you know what you have in terms of chemistry. I would also say that Nic and Wesley both have potential to be very good players. LMA has the potential to be a franchise player. That is not a bad core in terms of talent, character, and marketability.

I agree, which is why I wasn't saying that they must be traded. But there are two situations in which I could see dealing them being the right choice. One, another team is a big believer in the potential of one of them and therefore sees either Batum or Matthews as more than a support player down the line. The other situation is you package them both (and maybe a lesser asset...a Rudy, a draft pick) for an actual star or a blue-chip prospect. Generally the team getting the best player in the deal wins, but that hasn't prevented such deals from happening. They're not terribly common, but occur from time to time.
 
I heard on one of the opposing team's broadcast this week, that we lead the western conferene in attendance.

I know they "official" count at the RG is greatly exaggerated. Every home game there has been plenty of available sets, especially in the 200-level.
 
Well one thing is for certain....

After the clippers tear us a new one..... I'm sure Barkley will pick up right where they left off.
 
I know they "official" count at the RG is greatly exaggerated. Every home game there has been plenty of available sets, especially in the 200 level.



The black seats are all sold out. Getting people to sit in them seems to be a problem, though. I've received free tickets in those seats before on a few occasions and brought one of my kids.
 

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