Christianity

[DDRickyDD]

The belief that a cosmic jewish zombie, who was his own father can make you live forever if you symbolically eat his flesh and telepathically tell him you accept him as your master, so he can remove an evil force from your soul that is present in humanity because a rib-women was convinced by a talking snake to eat from a magical tree...yeah, makes perfect sense.</p>

 

[DolfanDale]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (DDRickyDD)</div><div class='quotemain'></p>

The belief that a cosmic jewish zombie, who was his own father can make you live forever if you symbolically eat his flesh and telepathically tell him you accept him as your master, so he can remove an evil force from your soul that is present in humanity because a rib-women was convinced by a talking snake to eat from a magical tree...yeah, makes perfect sense.</p>

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Did you wake up on the wrong side of the bed and decide to take the frustration of your existance out on others by attacking their beliefs? I've noticed that you have offered anything better. By the way, zombie isn't an accurate analogy. Christians don't think that Jesus was living dead. We believe Jesus is resurrected from the dead. Still, this is America and the great thing is that you can believe what you want and I can believe what I want. Got anything else you need to get off your chest?</p>

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[AirJordan]

I find your sig offensive</p>

 

[shookem]

If I want to pray to little baby Jesus or Zombie Jesus that's my business.</p>

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If I die and nothing happens then I haven't really lost much. I'm sure I could have been a bigger dick than I was to people but it's good to be nice. However, if I die and go to hell because I didn't recieve my zombie soul cleansing than I bet I'll feel pretty dumb.</p>

Faith is a beautiful thing and it's a big non-phyiscal difference between animals and us. Then again, I can't prove that a dog doesn't think it's master is God or that is has its' own belief system but at the very least our places of worship are cooler.</p>

 

[Kid Chocolate]

You could say any religion is stupid, but it's all about belief/faith.</p>

Get some religious tolerance or STFU.</p>

 

[lukewarmplay]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (DDRickyDD)</div><div class='quotemain'></p>

The belief that a cosmic jewish zombie, who was his own father can make you live forever if you symbolically eat his flesh and telepathically tell him you accept him as your master, so he can remove an evil force from your soul that is present in humanity because a rib-women was convinced by a talking snake to eat from a magical tree...yeah, makes perfect sense.</p>

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These people believe that, and laugh at how ignorant this is: http://forums.fark.com/cgi/fark/comments.pl?IDLink=3135614</p>

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[Master Shake]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (DDRickyDD)</div><div class='quotemain'></p>

The belief that a cosmic jewish zombie, who was his own father can make you live forever if you symbolically eat his flesh and telepathically tell him you accept him as your master, so he can remove an evil force from your soul that is present in humanity because a rib-women was convinced by a talking snake to eat from a magical tree...yeah, makes perfect sense.</p>

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I never really thought of religion making sense. It is a faith. I'm Jewish, but I don't believe in God, or faith. Mainly because I think to be religious, you do everything that the religion preaches, not what is convenient. That happens around me, so I gave it up.</p>

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[Kid Chocolate]

You can't be a Jewish Atheist.</p>

 

[Chutney]

"Jewish" can kind of be considered a cultural group, since the religion is so intertwined with ethnicity/heritage.</p>


That dude's post was beyond ignorant, but "Zombie Jesus" is a wicked term.</p>

 

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pretty awesome. I'm a Christian, but I believe alot of the things catholicism does is a tad bit ridiculous IMO. Such as the "whore" mary magdalene, the idea of "hell", the idea that having sex before marriage is terribly bad, and the idea behind Adam & Eve and the creation of Earth.</p>

I'll agree that some of the things in Catholicism and Christianity do sound pretty ridiculous, but that's just my belief...everyone has their own belief. And it's not right to go on a tirade and call out people of different religions just because you don't like it. Don't believe it if you don't want to, but some people actually do care about this kinda thing and take it pretty seriously. The only thing this does is piss people off.</p>

 

[NTC]

Its just funny, people make fun of Tom Cruise and Scientology for being so outlandish, yeah Christianity (or any other religion for that fact) arent any more feasible.DDRickyDD summed it up pretty nicely. I can respect peoples beliefs, but that doesnt change the fact you're an idiot.

 

[shookem]

I don't think people make fun of Tom Cruise because of what he believes in, it's because he's a giant douche and he does weird things.</p>

If a Jew jumped on Oprah's coach, would they not get made fun of?</p>

Also, most religions are thousands of years old, where as Scientology was thought up last weekend. I've been to a Scientology church meeting, it was pretty normal. However, my church never made me pay anything (they pass around plate and I'll throw in a couple of bucks). It was advised that to me by my Scientology church friends that I buy about $80 worth of books to read to get started, after I finished those ones I could purchase the books that cost over $100 each.</p>

Also, because most spiritual practices are ancient rituals they exist in an absence of technology. This is not the case with Scientology. After the service I was invited to watch everyone get their levels read, I wasn't 'experienced' enough in the ways of the church to have mine read yet but imagine a big room with of bunch of church style tables with pairs of people sitting across from each other. One person is fiddling with a machine that looks like what people thought a toaster would look like now, 50 years ago. The other person is holding onto these metal TP roles with wires that attach them to the machine.</p>

To me an idiot is someone who talks about something as if they have insight but in reality they are just spitting out what they've heard other people say (which can be insightful but often is just prejudiced).</p>

 

[NTC]

Ithinkanyonewhoisreligiousisanidiot,you'retryingtocomprehendsomthingthatisuncomprehensible.You're devoting your life to what? Some "thing" that never even existed in the first place, you're devoting yourself to a fable, a story that was created hundreds of years ago, all for some sort of sense of "security".</p>

Peoplecanbelievewhattheywant,Ijustthinkthey'reidiotsforbelieveingit.</p>

 

[Chutney]

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Ithinkanyonewhoisreligiousisanidiot,you'retryingtocomprehendsomthingthatisuncomprehensible.You're devoting your life to what? Some "thing" that never even existed in the first place, you're devoting yourself to a fable, a story that was created hundreds of years ago, all for some sort of sense of "security".</p>

Peoplecanbelievewhattheywant,Ijustthinkthey'reidiotsforbelieveingit.</p>

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This doesn't make any sense. How can you criticize people for trying to understand something that is supposedly "incomprehensible" and then go ahead and state without a doubt that there's no God, religion is just a fable, it's created for a sense of security, etc? You're making the same mistake that you're criticizing religious people for making (having the arrogance to think you know the answer, without a doubt). I'm not saying that religion is necessarily true, but you can never rule out the possibility that it is.</p>

 

[shookem]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Chutney)</div><div class='quotemain'></p>

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Ithinkanyonewhoisreligiousisanidiot,you'retryingtocomprehendsomthingthatisuncomprehensible.You're devoting your life to what? Some "thing" that never even existed in the first place, you're devoting yourself to a fable, a story that was created hundreds of years ago, all for some sort of sense of "security".</p>

Peoplecanbelievewhattheywant,Ijustthinkthey'reidiotsforbelieveingit.</p>

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This doesn't make any sense. How can you criticize people for trying to understand something that is supposedly "incomprehensible" and then go ahead and state without a doubt that there's no God, religion is just a fable, it's created for a sense of security, etc? You're making the same mistake that you're criticizing religious people for making (having the arrogance to think you know the answer, without a doubt). I'm not saying that religion is necessarily true, but you can never rule out the possibility that it is.</p>

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Check and mate. "I know nothing other than that I know nothing."</p>

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[lukewarmplay]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Shookem)</div><div class='quotemain'></p>

I don't think people make fun of Tom Cruise because of what he believes in, it's because he's a giant douche and he does weird things.</p>

If a Jew jumped on Oprah's coach, would they not get made fun of?</p>

Also, most religions are thousands of years old, where as Scientology was thought up last weekend. I've been to a Scientology church meeting, it was pretty normal. However, my church never made me pay anything (they pass around plate and I'll throw in a couple of bucks). It was advised that to me by my Scientology church friends that I buy about $80 worth of books to read to get started, after I finished those ones I could purchase the books that cost over $100 each.</p>

Also, because most spiritual practices are ancient rituals they exist in an absence of technology. This is not the case with Scientology. After the service I was invited to watch everyone get their levels read, I wasn't 'experienced' enough in the ways of the church to have mine read yet but imagine a big room with of bunch of church style tables with pairs of people sitting across from each other. One person is fiddling with a machine that looks like what people thought a toaster would look like now, 50 years ago. The other person is holding onto these metal TP roles with wires that attach them to the machine.</p>

To me an idiot is someone who talks about something as if they have insight but in reality they are just spitting out what they've heard other people say (which can be insightful but often is just prejudiced).</p>

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That does not add value to them, IMO; you get the anachronisms that lead to bigotry and suffering in our society, and stuff that once had a purpose that's now just plain nonsensical.</p>

As for Scientology, I think the fact that it became a religion says something about the inherent susceptibility of the human mind to these types of spiritual or superstitious stories.</p>

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[Kid Chocolate]

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Ithinkanyonewhoisreligiousisanidiot,you'retryingtocomprehendsomthingthatisuncomprehensible.You're devoting your life to what? Some "thing" that never even existed in the first place, you're devoting yourself to a fable, a story that was created hundreds of years ago, all for some sort of sense of "security".</p>

Peoplecanbelievewhattheywant,Ijustthinkthey'reidiotsforbelieveingit.</p>

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This doesn't make any sense. How can you criticize people for trying to understand something that is supposedly "incomprehensible" and then go ahead and state without a doubt that there's no God, religion is just a fable, it's created for a sense of security, etc? You're making the same mistake that you're criticizing religious people for making (having the arrogance to think you know the answer, without a doubt). I'm not saying that religion is necessarily true, but you can never rule out the possibility that it is.</p>

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You are my new favorite poster.</p>

#1 on the totem pole = Chutney.</p>

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I personally find Scientology silly because it was created by a sci-fi author, and sounds like a sci-fi plot. Hail Xenu!</p>

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[pegs]

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Ithinkanyonewhoisreligiousisanidiot,you'retryingtocomprehendsomthingthatisuncomprehensible.You're devoting your life to what? Some "thing" that never even existed in the first place, you're devoting yourself to a fable, a story that was created hundreds of years ago, all for some sort of sense of "security".</p>

Peoplecanbelievewhattheywant,Ijustthinkthey'reidiotsforbelieveingit.</p>

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This doesn't make any sense. How can you criticize people for trying to understand something that is supposedly "incomprehensible" and then go ahead and state without a doubt that there's no God, religion is just a fable, it's created for a sense of security, etc? You're making the same mistake that you're criticizing religious people for making (having the arrogance to think you know the answer, without a doubt). I'm not saying that religion is necessarily true, but you can never rule out the possibility that it is.</p>

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great, great point. I say believe whatever you wanna believe. I believe there's a god, and there's a heaven...and you should be good and shit and have good morals...but not much else. I like to think I've got my own religion, that consists of God, chillen, and basketball </p>

Anyone who thinks I'm ridiculous or dumb can fuck off, because chances are, my idea of my religion could be just as silly as yours.</p>

 

[Kid Chocolate]

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Ithinkanyonewhoisreligiousisanidiot,you'retryingtocomprehendsomthingthatisuncomprehensible.You're devoting your life to what? Some "thing" that never even existed in the first place, you're devoting yourself to a fable, a story that was created hundreds of years ago, all for some sort of sense of "security".</p>

Peoplecanbelievewhattheywant,Ijustthinkthey'reidiotsforbelieveingit.</p>

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This doesn't make any sense. How can you criticize people for trying to understand something that is supposedly "incomprehensible" and then go ahead and state without a doubt that there's no God, religion is just a fable, it's created for a sense of security, etc? You're making the same mistake that you're criticizing religious people for making (having the arrogance to think you know the answer, without a doubt). I'm not saying that religion is necessarily true, but you can never rule out the possibility that it is.</p>

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great, great point. I say believe whatever you wanna believe. I believe there's a god, and there's a heaven...and you should be good and shit and have good morals...but not much else. I like to think I've got my own religion, that consists of God, chillen, and basketball </p>

Anyone who thinks I'm ridiculous or dumb can fuck off, because chances are, my idea of my religion could be just as silly as yours.</p>

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Yea, like if you believe that Syracuse could make the NCAA tourney, you should believe that, no matter how ridiculous it is.</p>

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[pegs]

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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (peg182)</div><div class='quotemain'></p>

great, great point. I say believe whatever you wanna believe. I believe there's a god, and there's a heaven...and you should be good and shit and have good morals...but not much else. I like to think I've got my own religion, that consists of God, chillen, and basketball </p>

Anyone who thinks I'm ridiculous or dumb can fuck off, because chances are, my idea of my religion could be just as silly as yours.</p>

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Yea, like if you believe that Syracuse could make the NCAA tourney, you should believe that, no matter how ridiculous it is.</p>

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Oh no di'n't!!</p>

Syracuse should make the NCAA tourney every year, and everyone should believe that. That is a fact.</p>

Anyone who doesn't believe that will go to "hell", aka "Uconn" or "Georgetown".</p>

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[NTC]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Chutney)</div><div class='quotemain'>

This doesn't make any sense. How can you criticize people for trying to understand something that is supposedly "incomprehensible" and then go ahead and state without a doubt that there's no God, religion is just a fable, it's created for a sense of security, etc? You're making the same mistake that you're criticizing religious people for making (having the arrogance to think you know the answer, without a doubt). I'm not saying that religion is necessarily true, but you can never rule out the possibility that it is.</p></div>

Itmakesperfectsense.</p>

Idontknowtheanswerofhowtheworldwascreated,Ihavenoclue,noonedoes,nooneeverwill,thatwasmypoint.I'msayingReligionisafarce,thereisnoproofbackingupclaimsofanyreligion,itsallheresayandspeculation.You'redefendingsomthingthereisnowayofproving.I can prove religion is a farce, because I can provide you with nothing that suggests otherwise.Its like me saying I have a million dollars in my bank account, its not there, but I believe it is,butthat it doesnt change the fact its not really there.</p>

 

[GMJ]

I personally don't hold too much value to the very concept of religion. I think it's based on an evolutionary definition of entitlement that humans have, and is effective because it caters to our fears of the afterlife. Of course having a penchent for psychology, I find religion as a perfectly understandable concept, and a very effective strategy of improving self-esteem, and seeking understanding; these are all very natural (and expected!) behaviors of a human being. So much though that someone who finds these natural, expected, behaviors to be idiotic actually exhibits inhumane patters of thinking.</p>

Edit: to make this a little more clear, I should note that use other means of seeking self-esteem / general understanding goals.</p>

 

[shookem]

[quote name='NTC'][quote name='Chutney']</p>

Itmakesperfectsense.</p>

Idontknowtheanswerofhowtheworldwascreated,Ihavenoclue,noonedoes,nooneeverwill,thatwasmypoint.I'msayingReligionisafarce,thereisnoproofbackingupclaimsofanyreligion,itsallheresayandspeculation.You'redefendingsomthingthereisnowayofproving.I can prove religion is a farce, because I can provide you with nothing that suggests otherwise.</p>

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Are you sure you don't know? Because if you are then maybe the world was created in seven days or by a magic wand. Das de point.</p>

It's hypocritical to "say that's not how the world was created but I don't know how it was and no one ever will".</p>

I could prove democracy is a farce does that mean I'm right?</p>

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[NTC]

Why? I'm not offering any theories as to how the world was created. I dont know, no one knows,nooneneverwill, thats my point. It's not hypocritical at all. What I do know, is some guy called God didnt create the earth, because thats a physical imbossibility, and there was no guy called Jesus who managed to resurect himself, because again, thats phsyically impossible to do.

 

[lukewarmplay]

I've got a pretty good idea as to how the world was created.</p>

 

[CelticKing]

I at times think we are pets to some aliens out there, and they're just playing with us. lol</p>

But yea there is no way to know what happend millions or billions of years ago. Maybe we always existed like we are now...who knows.</p>

 

[pegs]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (lukewarmplay)</div><div class='quotemain'></p>

I've got a pretty good idea as to how the world was created.</p>

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I believe in the big bang theory. That's just what makes the most sense to me.</p>

 

[Chutney]

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This doesn't make any sense. How can you criticize people for trying to understand something that is supposedly "incomprehensible" and then go ahead and state without a doubt that there's no God, religion is just a fable, it's created for a sense of security, etc? You're making the same mistake that you're criticizing religious people for making (having the arrogance to think you know the answer, without a doubt). I'm not saying that religion is necessarily true, but you can never rule out the possibility that it is.</p>

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Itmakesperfectsense.</p>

Idontknowtheanswerofhowtheworldwascreated,Ihavenoclue,noonedoes,nooneeverwill,thatwasmypoint.I'msayingReligionisafarce,thereisnoproofbackingupclaimsofanyreligion,itsallheresayandspeculation.You'redefendingsomthingthereisnowayofproving.I can prove religion is a farce, because I can provide you with nothing that suggests otherwise.

Its like me saying I have a million dollars in my bank account, its not there, but I believe it is,butthat it doesnt change the fact its not really there.</p>

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You're still contradicting yourself. The "millions dollars in my bank account" analogy doesn't work, because you know for sure that its not true. But we're talking about a topic that you yourself admitted is impossible to know for certain. How can you say that and then confidently say something like there's no such thing as God? You're claim has no more evidence than the one's you're criticizing.


<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (NTC)</div><div class='quotemain'>Why? I'm not offering any theories as to how the world was created. I dont know, no one knows, no one never will, thats my point. It's not hypocritical at all. What I do know, is some guy called God didnt create the earth, because thats a physical imbossibility, and there was no guy called Jesus who managed to resurect himself, because again, thats phsyically impossible to do.</div>This doesn't make sense either. IF you're going to consider the existence of a Christian God, then you can't fool around with the definition of it. A Christian God is omnipotent and wouldn't be restrained by natural/scientific laws (eg: gravity, thermodynamics, conservation of energy, etc.). According to Christianity, God created these laws and is above and beyond them. So it really isn't an impossibility that God could've created the universe.</p>

 

[Kid Chocolate]

Just because you are agnostic, doesn't mean everyone else is an idiot if they aren't.</p>

I hate elitists.</p>

 

[#1_War_Poet_ForLife]

We all know Hindus win.</p>

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