'Circumstances' of Colt Lyerla absence results in a loss for Mark Helfrich **UPDATED*

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Although the scoreboard didn’t show it, Oregon coach Mark Helfrich has suffered his first coaching defeat. Even though Oregon trounced Tennessee 59-14 on Saturday to run its record to 3-0 and retain its No. 2 national ranking, the Ducks first-year coach suffered his first setback in how he dealt with the absence of Colt Lyerla, his star tight end.

Helfrich told the media after the game that Lyerla was not at Autzen Stadium because of “circumstances.” When asked if Lyerla was healthy, Helfrich again said “circumstances.”

When asked to be more specific, Helfrich smiled and continued the cat-and-mouse game he likes to play with the media.

“Circumstances is extremely specific,’’ Helfrich said with a smile. “That’s one word.’’

As many in the media are wont to do, they guffawed at the coach’s attempt to be cute. But Lyerla was at his Eugene home with an entirely different reaction.

“I’m really upset with the way coach Helfrich said that after the game,’’ Lyerla said Sunday. “Really disappointed. I feel hurt about this. I watched a little bit of what he said, then started reading all of it, and ... it was unfair.’’

Lyerla says he was ill, causing him to miss practices on Tuesday, Wednesday and Thursday. Per team rules regarding the number of practices one needs to go through, he said he knew he wasn’t going to play. He was told to stay home Saturday and get rest.

“Circumstances,’’ Lyerla said echoing his coach’s explanation. “He didn’t say I was sick all week.’’

When Helfrich said “circumstances”, then stuck with it when prodded for elaboration, human nature sent people’s minds wandering to some pretty dark places. I know. I was one of them.

Lyerla last summer was been held out of nine practices for what the team called “personal issues.” Now, fairly or unfairly, questions resurfaced. Had those “issues” returned? What did Colt do? Is he in trouble? Will he be back?

I’m embarrassed to say that after leaving the postgame press conference, I tweeted that it was obvious Lyerla didn’t have the flu, like the television broadcast said. But that prompted a conversation with a colleague. Was it fair of me to go there? Why did I allow myself to go there? Why did Helfrich use such an open-ended word like “circumstances?”

As we drove back to Portland, my colleague and I both concluded it wasn’t fair to Lyerla. Intentional or not, Helfrich had opened a can of worms. All the conjecture, all the theories, all the rumors were fueled instead of squashed.

Maybe it’s not Helfrich’s job to worry about where our minds wander. And maybe I’m as much to blame as anyone for allowing my mind to speculate or wonder.

But isn’t part of Helfrich’s job to protect his players? Did he do that Saturday?

I understand why Helfrich and Oregon do not comment on injuries. And I understand why they don’t open practices to the media or the public. Those tactics, however minute, can help give a team a competitive advantage on Saturdays.

But why not say Lyerla was sick? Or why not say he was held out because he didn’t take part in enough practices?

Why create an air of uncertainty about the young man?

“I have no idea why he said that,’’ Lyerla said. “It made me really upset. It’s not my fault I got sick. I just felt he could have had my back a little bit more instead of throwing me under the bus.’’

Helfrich declined to comment early Sunday, but said he would be available at his regularly scheduled 5 p.m. teleconference with reporters.

Lyerla, meanwhile, was spending Sunday morning trying to figure out how to approach his coach. The team doesn’t practice until Tuesday.

“I don’t know how to react,’’ Lyerla said. “I’m just going to show up on Tuesday and work, and hopefully all of it will work itself out.’’

As it turns out, the tables have been turned. Usually it is Helfrich teaching the players life lessons. He preaches that it is OK to make mistakes, as long as one learns from them. This is the first major coaching lesson in Helfrich’s tenure, one the 39-year-old can right with two words.

I’m sorry.

--Jason Quick

http://www.oregonlive.com/ducks/index.ssf/2013/09/oregon_insider_circumstances_o.html
 
Re: 'Circumstances' of Colt Lyerla absence results in a loss for Mark Helfrich

I think what coach was trying to say is that the Ducks do not discuss injuries... The reporters and players know that. I think it's Quick being an ass.
 
Re: 'Circumstances' of Colt Lyerla absence results in a loss for Mark Helfrich

I agree with Quick, if Colt was sick last week Helfrich just should have said that. Lots of media outlets assuming the worst including Comcast and ABC.
 
Re: 'Circumstances' of Colt Lyerla absence results in a loss for Mark Helfrich

I think what coach was trying to say is that the Ducks do not discuss injuries... The reporters and players know that. I think it's Quick being an ass.

It was mishandled, right when the starters were announced Mosley said Colt was out with the flu, when Helfrich said, "circumstances" it opened things for speculation. Colt felt he was thrown under the bus by Helfrich, not Quick.
 
Re: 'Circumstances' of Colt Lyerla absence results in a loss for Mark Helfrich

I agree with Quick, if Colt was sick last week Helfrich just should have said that. Lots of media outlets assuming the worst including Comcast and ABC.

I disagree.

The reporters all know that stuff is not discussed. I mean, they can push it all they want but I'll support the team on this one.
 
Re: 'Circumstances' of Colt Lyerla absence results in a loss for Mark Helfrich

And so the media vs. coaches soap opera begins.

I'm sure Lyerla and Helfrich will have a sit down and that'll likely be the end of it. Even if Lyerla didn't seem sick on Saturday as Quick wrote, if he sat out of practices during the week, I can understand why he'd be left out of the game (same thing w/Tyner in week one).

Lyerla was wrong to spill this out to the media, but that being said, I always wished Kelly (and now Helfrich) wouldn't try to be cute all the time when discussing injuries/absences. Just say a stoic, generic "sorry, we don't disclose details for injuries/absences within this program." Is there something so bad about that? I'd just repeat that in every single press conference if I had to. Why do they feel the need to give the media cute, smart ass responses like 'circumstances', 'I don't know', 'day to day', etc.

I think their cuteness has finally come back to bite them a little.
 
Re: 'Circumstances' of Colt Lyerla absence results in a loss for Mark Helfrich

Jason Quick is Quick to be a dick. I should be a rapper. But seriously, fuck Jason Quick.
 
Re: 'Circumstances' of Colt Lyerla absence results in a loss for Mark Helfrich

I’m embarrassed to say that after leaving the postgame press conference, I tweeted that it was obvious Lyerla didn’t have the flu, like the television broadcast said. But that prompted a conversation with a colleague. Was it fair of me to go there? Why did I allow myself to go there?

As we drove back to Portland, my colleague and I both concluded it wasn’t fair to Lyerla. Intentional or not, Helfrich had opened a can of worms. All the conjecture, all the theories, all the rumors were fueled instead of squashed.

And you helped fuel them, dickweed.

What an idiot.
 
Re: 'Circumstances' of Colt Lyerla absence results in a loss for Mark Helfrich

Quiksa Dik
 
Re: 'Circumstances' of Colt Lyerla absence results in a loss for Mark Helfrich

The team announced Lyerla was sick....what else was there to say?

Quick just plain MAKES UP a story - and then blames the coaching staff. What a POS.
 
Re: 'Circumstances' of Colt Lyerla absence results in a loss for Mark Helfrich

this reminds me of that episode of How I met your mother where Marshall said Lily was having "Stomach Problems" and Lily wished he would have just said "Under the weather" because people would be guessing which end she was exploding out of.

They talked about Lyerla being sick... no need to go into more detail. This is Quick doing his usual making a mountain of a molehill IMO.
 
Re: 'Circumstances' of Colt Lyerla absence results in a loss for Mark Helfrich

The Blazers already shunned Quick after the LMA lies. Looks like Quick is now exploiting 20 year-old college players to insert himself into the story.

HCP hates the guy in real life, and that's enough of a negative reference for me about Jason Quick. He and Canzano are former jock wannabes who want to still be the story.
 
Re: 'Circumstances' of Colt Lyerla absence results in a loss for Mark Helfrich

Fucking Quick.... he's taking his brand of tabloid journalism down to Oregon now.
 
Re: 'Circumstances' of Colt Lyerla absence results in a loss for Mark Helfrich

Should have put Quick on the Thorns.
 
Re: 'Circumstances' of Colt Lyerla absence results in a loss for Mark Helfrich

Mundt was amazing... he did everything that I thought Colt would do. Why hasn't Colt had a game like Mundt just had?
 
Re: 'Circumstances' of Colt Lyerla absence results in a loss for Mark Helfrich

It's been said that the staff doesnt like the media in Eugene. Perhaps 'Circumstances' and sticking to it without shedding any light was Helfrich being a butthead and this fueled Quick to get back at him in a certain way. It's all about egos. Mark's ego that he is the coach and what I say is good enough, and Quicks ego of not getting the info he wanted and trying to one up him. It's sickening really on both ends.

It's being questioned, Can anyone stop the Ducks? Yes, the Ducks can stop themselves. This is a distraction they don't need. I personally think it was handled poorly by Helfrich. And if this team is going to do anything big, he needs to grow up. Quickly
 
Re: 'Circumstances' of Colt Lyerla absence results in a loss for Mark Helfrich

It's been said that the staff doesnt like the media in Eugene. Perhaps 'Circumstances' and sticking to it without shedding any light was Helfrich being a butthead and this fueled Quick to get back at him in a certain way. It's all about egos. Mark's ego that he is the coach and what I say is good enough, and Quicks ego of not getting the info he wanted and trying to one up him. It's sickening really on both ends.

It's being questioned, Can anyone stop the Ducks? Yes, the Ducks can stop themselves. This is a distraction they don't need. I personally think it was handled poorly by Helfrich. And if this team is going to do anything big, he needs to grow up. Quickly

How was Helfrich acting any different than Chip over the last four years? The Ducks don't comment on injuries. He was just being consistent with that policy. Quick is trying to drum up controversy when there is none.
 
Re: 'Circumstances' of Colt Lyerla absence results in a loss for Mark Helfrich

How was Helfrich acting any different than Chip over the last four years? The Ducks don't comment on injuries. He was just being consistent with that policy. Quick is trying to drum up controversy when there is none.

The point is Quick didnt have to drum up controversy. The controversy was already there. 'Circumstances' had everyone and there dog talking about it. Had Mike Patrick and Ed Cunningham, what in the hell it meant? Colt said it, the comment made everyone's mind go in a non positive direction. Before Quick even reported on it.
 
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The point is Quick didnt have to drum up controversy. The controversy was already there. 'Circumstances' had everyone and there dog talking about it. Had Mike Patrick and Ed Cunningham, what in the hell it meant? Colt said it, the comment made everyone's mind go in a non positive direction. Before Quick even reported on it.

Oh come on...

"a fact or condition connected with or relevant to an event or action."

How is that negative? Helfrich said it and Quick made something out of it. He went to Colt and created this bullshit drama out of nothing.
 
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Colt has a Columbian problem, everyone knows it...... His parents have drug issues too and this kid needs help! It sucks because this kid is Brian Urlacher with Heath Miller hands......

It's sad for him.... cause Mundt may have made an amazing player drug irrelevant.

It's "Colombian", and rumors like this are bullshit on this or any board.
 
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It's "Colombian", and rumors like this are bullshit on this or any board.

There is something weird about Colt this season. I'm not going to pretend like I know anything at all, but he just seems.... different. If Mundt plays like he did on Saturday, I don't think Colt is going to find much time.
 
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Oh come on...

"a fact or condition connected with or relevant to an event or action."

How is that negative? Helfrich said it and Quick made something out of it. He went to Colt and created this bullshit drama out of nothing.

The controversy was created by the rookie head coach when he used 'circumstances' to not just Quick but everyone that covers the Ducks. Now if they have a program policy in place when it comes to the type of information that will be divulged to the media about the players. This player didn't know it. And if he did know it. Than he ought to have his hand slapped. But Colt by all accounts clearly didn't know. Or else why act out.
 
Re: 'Circumstances' of Colt Lyerla absence results in a loss for Mark Helfrich

The controversy was created by the rookie head coach when he used 'circumstances' to not just Quick but everyone that covers the Ducks. Now if they have a program policy in place when it comes to the type of information that will be divulged to the media about the players. This player didn't know it. And if he did know it. Than he ought to have his hand slapped. But Colt by all accounts clearly didn't know. Or else why act out.

Are you kidding? The Ducks haven't commented on injuries for years. Everyone knows it. This isn't a new policy. They don't say if a player is out, why he's out, or how long he'll be out. Colt knows this. Quick knows this. Who cares what word the coach used? It all means the same thing.
 
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Are you kidding? The Ducks haven't commented on injuries for years. Everyone knows it. This isn't a new policy. They don't say if a player is out, why he's out, or how long he'll be out. Colt knows this. Quick knows this. Who cares what word the coach used? It all means the same thing.

Then he ought to sit another week.
 
Quick is still a douchebag... no way! Guess how much the program cares what a well known douchebag thinks? FERPA laws do not permit coaches to talk about injuries without the players prior consent. Coaches are also not allowed to disclose an illness without the players consent. Should Helfrich have stopped the interview and called up Colt asking for permission so he could expand on the details of why he was held out, or maybe should reporters be expected to know the rules that affect their profession before going with knee jerk innuendo?

reading the OP, it only took a few lines to recognize the stink. Funny how even without a name attached how clear a person's writing style is...

STOMP
 
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Re: 'Circumstances' of Colt Lyerla absence results in a loss for Mark Helfrich

before we all jump on the "Mundt is God, Colt should sit" bandwagon... sure Mundt had an excellent game receiving (Colt probably would have too, sometimes the game just dictates who you check down to, and the D decided to try and take away everyone else but Mundt) But there were some run plays where Colt was severely missed. The edges werent sealed off and w/o DAT's speed its a 3/4 yard loss.

This isnt to take away from Mundt, congrats on his debut. But he is in no way ready to supplant a player of Colt's caliber in the starting lineup, or on a regular basis.
 
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Yeah, non-story. Helfrich could probably have been just a little less vague. Colt probably should just keep his trap shut. Quick wants to save face and shift blame after jumping to conclusions (again). Now everyone will just move on until the next minor detail gets blown way out of proportion.
 
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I retract my statement that Colt has a substance problem. I have not been on his drug tests or lack there of. I will only say too many stories have been swirling about Colt and his extra curricular activities for the last 2 years from the student body. That said it was BUSH league of me to make such an ass umption. Time will tell if these thoughts have any worth.

On a side note I think it's interesting that Pharaoh Brown wasn't in, is his injury more than what is being reported, and what of Dwayne Stanford?
 
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