Clutch stats

[Rastapopoulos]

Interesting stuff from David Locke:

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Mr. Big Shot indeed.

 

[Boise Blazer]

Oh the irony if USA has to make a clutch shot and misses ... I wont lie, I kinda hope it happens.

 

[Eastoff]

I always hate when Aldridge got the ball in closing minutes.

 

[BlazerCaravan]

The plays they run for LA in the last two minutes aren't great, and easy to defend, because he can't "make shit happen" like a wing or PG can. He can't improvise.

Lillard is a fantastic jazz player, and LA is a fantastic classical player. Nothing against LA when I say you want a jazz guy in crunch time.

 

[Minstrel]

Big men have always been at a bit of a disadvantage in late game, short clock situations, because they usually need more set-up time and are far easier to defend by a set defense when the risk of kick-outs is reduced or removed due to time constraints. That's why Kobe generally got the ball at the end of games over Shaq.

But when the game clock has as much or more time than the shot clock, the central dynamics should be unchanged. So it's strange that Aldridge's numbers go down so much unless they're heavily influenced by those types of "10 seconds left, last shot of the game" type attempts.

 

[Fun in the Sun]

The plays they run for LA in the last two minutes aren't great, and easy to defend, because he can't "make shit happen" like a wing or PG can. He can't improvise.

Lillard is a fantastic jazz player, and LA is a fantastic classical player. Nothing against LA when I say you want a jazz guy in crunch time.

What if it's the end of a concerto and the classical player has to improvise a cadenza? I get what you're saying though.

 

[magnifier661]

I always hate when Aldridge got the ball in closing minutes.

me too. I am a huge Aldridge homer, but he ain't very clutch in the final seconds. He's had his moments, but I was never confident with him shooting any last second shot.

 

[BlazerCaravan]

me too. I am a huge Aldridge homer, but he ain't very clutch in the final seconds. He's had his moments, but I was never confident with him shooting any last second shot.

His best shot is the scramble turnaround 3-pointer. Which is bananas.

 

[magnifier661]

His best shot is the scramble turnaround 3-pointer. Which is bananas.

B-A-N-A-N-A-S!

 

[BlazerWookee]

Anyone have a link to a side-by-side comparison of clutch stats for Lilliard and Brandon Roy?

 

[Natebishop3]

Big men have always been at a bit of a disadvantage in late game, short clock situations, because they usually need more set-up time and are far easier to defend by a set defense when the risk of kick-outs is reduced or removed due to time constraints. That's why Kobe generally got the ball at the end of games over Shaq.

But when the game clock has as much or more time than the shot clock, the central dynamics should be unchanged. So it's strange that Aldridge's numbers go down so much unless they're heavily influenced by those types of "10 seconds left, last shot of the game" type attempts.

I think Dirk Nowitzki is one of the few bigs that I would want taking a big shot, but he essentially plays like a wing.


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[Rhal]

me too. I am a huge Aldridge homer, but he ain't very clutch in the final seconds. He's had his moments, but I was never confident with him shooting any last second shot.

LA always seems dead tired at the end of games and resorts to that turn around fadeaway and he doesnt seem to have his legs under him.
its what makes Lillard and Batum being able to create their own shots key at that time.

 

[BlazerCaravan]

Anyone have a link to a side-by-side comparison of clutch stats for Lilliard and Brandon Roy?

I'll try...


I'm using an "ultra-clutch" definition of clutch: last minute of the game, +/- 3 points difference between the two teams. This is, in my opinion, the REAL CLUTCH we all think of when we think of clutch players like Roy and Lillard.

Damian Lillard 2013-2014: http://bkref.com/tiny/C6c5J
Brandon Roy 2008-2009: http://bkref.com/tiny/urbu4

That was Roy's most clutch year versus Lillard's most recent (I think he'll get more clutch!)...

For comparison, here's Roy's ultra-clutch from his second year: http://bkref.com/tiny/eCC2a

Even more bananas is Travis Outlaw... http://bkref.com/tiny/2v4xc He was STUPID CLUTCH in 2007-2008.

 

[BlazerCaravan]

Here's Dame's OMEGA CLUTCH stats from 2013-2014: http://bkref.com/tiny/BVsdt
And here's Brandon's from 2008-2009: http://bkref.com/tiny/UB0X5

OMEGA CLUTCH: Less than 3 seconds to go in the game, the game is within 3 points, and the shot is to tie or take the lead.

Here's the entire league in 2013-2014: http://bkref.com/tiny/RpbGy
And in 2008-2009: http://bkref.com/tiny/9uIR6

I am amazed that we've been blessed to have two of the most insanely clutch players on our team.

 

[magnifier661]

LA always seems dead tired at the end of games and resorts to that turn around fadeaway and he doesnt seem to have his legs under him.
its what makes Lillard and Batum being able to create their own shots key at that time.

Absolutely... Aldridge is the "old reliable" that dominates the first 3 quarters. Lillard takes over the 3rd and 4th quarters

 

[jlprk]

Aldridge sometimes has 1 or even 2 good quarters, but never 3. Except those first 2 playoff games against the Rockets.

Here's the entire league in 2013-2014: http://bkref.com/tiny/RpbGy
And in 2008-2009: http://bkref.com/tiny/9uIR6

Igoudala is surprisingly high on both lists. Get Iggy!

 

[BlazerCaravan]

Aldridge sometimes has 1 or even 2 good quarters, but never 3. Except those first 2 playoff games against the Rockets.



Igoudala is surprisingly high on both lists. Get Iggy!

I like how losers like Melo and Love are at the bottom. Fool's Gold.

 

[riverman]

This is a great thread! I think clutch shots are tough on a 1st option guy who's doubled in the clutch. Damian is clutch as it gets

 

[BlazerCaravan]

This is a great thread! I think clutch shots are tough on a 1st option guy who's doubled in the clutch. Damian is clutch as it gets

Dame is high percentage and has the volume of shots to bear that out; that's what impressed me most. He's clutch as it gets!

 

[BlazerCaravan]

One more: http://bkref.com/tiny/3nwFa

This is all the shots within the last second of a game to take the lead, throughout the NBA last year. Sorted by date. Read through them... there's a nice punchline at the end.

 

[3RA1N1AC]

Good stuff BC!

 

[Strenuus]

One more: http://bkref.com/tiny/3nwFa

This is all the shots within the last second of a game to take the lead, throughout the NBA last year. Sorted by date. Read through them... there's a nice punchline at the end.

hahahahahahaha! THat's fantastic. Repped!

Also, Steve Blake has one. Wonder how RoyToy feels about that...

 

[Strenuus]

I still kinda scratch my head, though, that the play was drawn up for LMA to catch and shoot. It just amazes me how much Dame bailed Stotts out there, because that's not really a great shot for LMA under pressure like that... he's made game winners before, but he had time to get himself ready.

If Dame missed that... we may be looking at Stotts differently... maybe the whole team. It really is baffling how big that shot was on so many levels.

 

[Eastoff]

I still kinda scratch my head, though, that the play was drawn up for LMA to catch and shoot. It just amazes me how much Dame bailed Stotts out there, because that's not really a great shot for LMA under pressure like that... he's made game winners before, but he had time to get himself ready.

If Dame missed that... we may be looking at Stotts differently... maybe the whole team. It really is baffling how big that shot was on so many levels.

yeah, definitely. The whore series could have gone the other way if Parsons and Harden hadn't switched.

 

[Boise Blazer]

I still kinda scratch my head, though, that the play was drawn up for LMA to catch and shoot. It just amazes me how much Dame bailed Stotts out there, because that's not really a great shot for LMA under pressure like that... he's made game winners before, but he had time to get himself ready.

If Dame missed that... we may be looking at Stotts differently... maybe the whole team. It really is baffling how big that shot was on so many levels.

Im doubting that LMA would have had time to get a clear shot off based upon his form and being guarded the way he was as well.

 

[BlazerWookee]

yeah, definitely. The whore series could have gone the other way if Parsons and Harden hadn't switched.

The whore series? Zach Randolph is back in town?

 

[Strenuus]

yeah, definitely. The whore series could have gone the other way if Parsons and Harden hadn't switched.

Thank you to them as well. lol

It'd be great to see a gif of players on houston and then over time see them slowly dissapearing.. like Parsons, Asik, Lin, etc. lol.

 

[Eastoff]

The whore series? Zach Randolph is back in town?

hahaha freudian slip! Houston Whores!