College Allows Transgender Man to Expose Himself to Young Girls

[PapaG]

Hmm ... thoughts?

A Washington college said their non-discrimination policy prevents them from stopping a transgender man from exposing himself to young girls inside a women’s locker room, according to a group of concerned parents.

“Little girls should not be exposed to naked men, period,” said David Hacker, senior legal counsel with the Alliance Defending Freedom. A group of concerned parents contacted the legal firm for help.

Hacker said a 45-year-old male student, who dresses as a woman and goes by the name Colleen Francis, undressed and exposed his genitals on several occasions inside the woman’s locker room at Evergreen State College.
Students from nearby Olympia High School as well as children at a local swimming club share locker rooms with the college.

According to a police report, the mother of a 17-year-old girl complained after her daughter saw the transgender individual walking naked in the locker room. A female swim coach confronted the man sprawled out in a sauna exposing himself. She ordered him to leave and called police.

The coach later apologized when she discovered the man was transgendered but explained there were girls using the facility as young as six years old who weren’t used to seeing male genitals.

“They’re uncomfortable with him being in there, her, being in there and are shocked by it,” parent Kristi Holterman told KIRO-TV.

According to the police report, the local district attorney probably will not pursue charges because he said the “criminal law is very vague in this area.”
Francis told KIRO-TV that he was born a man but chose to live as a woman in 2009. Francis said he felt discriminated against after he was told told leave.
“This is not 1959 Alabama,” Francis told the television station. “We don’t call police for drinking from the wrong water fountain.”

Hacker and local parents are outraged over the college’s response to the incident.
“The idea that the college and the local district attorney will not act to protect young girls is appalling,” he said. “What Americans are seeing here is the poisoned fruit of so-called ‘non-discrimination’ laws and policies.”
Placing this man’s proclivities ahead of protecting little girls is beyond unacceptable, Hacker said.

A spokesman for the college did not return calls seeking comment.
Hacker said the college could be held liable for damages if any of the young girls is harmed by the transgendered individual.

“Clearly, allowing a person who is biologically a man to undress and expose himself to young girls places those girls at risk for emotional distress and harm,” he wrote in a letter to the college. “Any reasonable person would view this as dangerous to the young girls involved. The fact that this individual was sitting in plain view of young girls changing into their swimsuits puts you and Evergreen on notice of possible future harm.”

 

[PapaG]

So, put on a wig, go by a female name, and any random dude can walk around girls as young as 6 swinging his junk around?

 

[BrianFromWA]

I'm not shocked that this happened at Evergreen.

 

[PapaG]

I'm not shocked that this happened at Evergreen.

Note to pedo freaks. Just pretend you're "cross-gendered", and you can waltz around the women's locker room naked if you enroll for a class at Evergreen.

 

[julius]

I thought they had family style changing rooms for people who are transgender?

I question the mental stability of this person. Even if he is truly a woman trapped in a mans body (which is a whole other issue) he HAS to know it's a little strange to be showing your genitals around younger people.

Although I do wonder, and I am in no way condoning this, how the response wouldve been had this been a woman exposing her genitals? Why is a womans genital region any less traumatic to little boys then male genitalia is to little girls?

Not saying that either should be, but it's just an interesting note.

 

[julius]

Note to pedo freaks. Just pretend you're "cross-gendered", and you can waltz around the women's locker room naked if you enroll for a class at Evergreen.

does anyone know what the #'s are for pedophiles in regards to their preference to girls or boys? I always have assumed that most pedophiles would be men interested in boys and good lord why am I asking this?

 

[mobes23]

This might not just be an Evergreen thing. Pretty sure transgendered people are supposed to use the restroom that they identify with (and by extension, locker room.) I think this could happen anywhere in WA state.

 

[porkchopexpress]

Hmm ... thoughts?

A female swim coach confronted the man sprawled out in a sauna exposing himself.

They're in a tough situation since if this man is really in the process of becoming a woman than he'd have to spend a year (I think it's a year) living as a woman. Pretty hard to do that if you're not allowed in a woman's locker room. But, if he's "sprawled out" in a sauna, I would think they'd be able to kick him out/charge him with some sort of lewd behavior crime. It's not like a woman couldn't be charged with the same crime (or at least kicked out) for doing the same thing.

 

[PapaG]

I thought they had family style changing rooms for people who are transgender?

I think "separate-but-equal" would be the argument against locker room segregation.

I question the mental stability of this person. Even if he is truly a woman trapped in a mans body (which is a whole other issue) he HAS to know it's a little strange to be showing your genitals around younger people.

Yeah, still, the fact that a 45 year-old dude is allowed to walk around naked in that situation seems wrong to me.

Although I do wonder, and I am in no way condoning this, how the response wouldve been had this been a woman exposing her genitals? Why is a womans genital region any less traumatic to little boys then male genitalia is to little girls?

I think most women have the decency to know that even if they're transgender, it isn't right (or legal) to prance around naked in front of little boys.

Not saying that either should be, but it's just an interesting note.

I'm sure the response would have been the same.

I did have to laugh a bit at the female coach who confronted the naked guy in the sauna and called the cops, only to later say "I didn't know he was transgendered!!".

Um, yeah, that's because he is a dude with a dick.

 

[PapaG]

does anyone know what the #'s are for pedophiles in regards to their preference to girls or boys? I always have assumed that most pedophiles would be men interested in boys and good lord why am I asking this?

Really, it was a side issue. How about any guy that goes to Evergreen can throw on a wig, say he's transgender, and lurk in the women's locker room sitting there naked.

 

[julius]

Really, it was a side issue. How about any guy that goes to Evergreen can throw on a wig, say he's transgender, and lurk in the women's locker room sitting there naked.

I worked with a transgender young adult, and the last thing she wanted was to make it obvious she was a he.

i don't get why this guy was in the locker room. At least maybe make saunas and locker rooms child free and have family ones instead (maybe dad with kids, mom with kids, etc)..

Seems this was easily avoidable, doesn't it?

 

[julius]

I did have to laugh a bit at the female coach who confronted the naked guy in the sauna and called the cops, only to later say "I didn't know he was transgendered!!".

Um, yeah, that's because he is a dude with a dick.

Yeah, I don't get how people can't tell.

 

[BLAZER PROPHET]

Washington is a pretty liberal state. This is no surprise. In fact, it's hardly newsworthy.

 

[PapaG]

Washington is a pretty liberal state. This is no surprise. In fact, it's hardly newsworthy.

A 45 year-old man was exposing himself in front of underage girls in a women's locker room, the cops were called, and the college says they can't stop it.

That's newsworthy.

 

[Denny Crane]

The college is probably at fault, as is the transgendered person

http://www.tgender.net/taw/policyfaq.html#Locker Room Access

They should provide privacy for the transgendered person and the children, but the person should probably ask for use of the facilities in an appropriate way.

 

[oldmangrouch]

There is a difference between transgender/transexual and a transvestite. Don't pretend the latter are the former, and you could largely avoid this situation.

 

[EL PRESIDENTE]

men = women.

didn't you get the memo?

 

[PapaG]

There is a difference between transgender/transexual and a transvestite. Don't pretend the latter are the former, and you could largely avoid this situation.

This is a "cross-dresser".

Transgender is not transsexual, fwiw.

Gender identity does not equal sex in terms of physical features. Sociology 101.

 

[3RA1N1AC]

so is it cool for a dude to swing his dick around in a boys locker room with 6 year old boys walking around? think of their poor minds being forever warped! i suggest burkas for the religious fanatics who believe the body is evil or whatever, and let everyone else continue to not give a shit

at a certain point you have to realize its not a sexual environment, they are taking showers and getting dressed, the stigma on nudity with some people is alarming, creating a panic because of a naked person is kinda silly in the grand scheme of things

does a streaker at a soccer match get charged with exposing himself to juveniles? no everybody laughs and has a lark on it. how about the mom who breastfeeds in public? no, and the reason why is it is not a sexual act

all that being said, the TG individual should know that most 6 year olds (hell most people) dont know or care what a TG person is, and just see a dick in their face

 

[PapaG]

so is it cool for a dude to swing his dick around in a boys locker room with 6 year old boys walking around? think of their poor minds being forever warped! i suggest burkas for the religious fanatics who believe the body is evil or whatever, and let everyone else continue to not give a shit

at a certain point you have to realize its not a sexual environment, they are taking showers and getting dressed, the stigma on nudity with some people is alarming, creating a panic because of a naked person is kinda silly in the grand scheme of things

does a streaker at a soccer match get charged with exposing himself to juveniles? no everybody laughs and has a lark on it. how about the mom who breastfeeds in public? no, and the reason why is it is not a sexual act

all that being said, the TG individual should know that most 6 year olds (hell most people) dont know or care what a TG person is, and just see a dick in their face

Where do grown men walk naked around naked 6 year-old boys? I've never been to that gym.

 

[BrianFromWA]

 

[EL PRESIDENTE]

Where do grown men walk naked around naked 6 year-old boys? I've never been to that gym.

You never took swimming lessons?

 

[3RA1N1AC]

im guessing you arent going to insult our intelligence and say you would have posted this if it was "naked man seen in gym by other males" but who knows these days

i guess i was just raised not to be terrified of naked people

 

[PapaG]

You never took swimming lessons?

Not with grown men.

 

[3RA1N1AC]

i learned how to swim from a dolphin, but there was nothing weird about it i swear, he made me look the other way whilst cleaning his blowhole

 

[EL PRESIDENTE]

dunno, at THPRD it was just everyone at the pool. Same with waterparks, people would just be walking around the changing rooms, not like it was all segregated with kids only?

 

[3RA1N1AC]

bottom line, there are enough actual pervs in this world that making them out of nothing is just a waste of time

catch the real pervs

 

[EL PRESIDENTE]

the thing is, if you're going to accept Transgendered as being the opposite sex in everything they do and no different, you have to accept this as a reality and just chalk this up as "normal behavior".

 

[SlyPokerDog]

In Europe everyone is naked everywhere.

Silly American prudes.

 

[3RA1N1AC]

people just dont want to have that talk with their kids