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Cliffs, the related blazers to Seahawks, both owned by Paul Allen, both young, best fans, guaranteed a championship. Gave some good footage of practice, focused on good chemistry, a lot of lillard footage, he's being propped up as a star, we've arrived folks, Portland is on the map.
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I was a little disappointed in how short the story was but it was cool to see the chemistry in practice. I'll take the media I want lillard to get Kobe calls.
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The just said on sportscenter opener rip city setting a record all star weekend. More lillard press coming! I haven't watched ESPN like this in a while, I hope the ratings go up with blazer coverage.
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35 wins and 14 losses with a shitty bench is amazing to me.
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Me too. Especially when that Mo dude enters the game
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The wins are even more important now. The record we have at the moment got us to the media coverage... but it can slip away just as quick if we start fudging up games. We're not a New York or LA that could suck for 20 years but still get 20 national games a year. We have to have a consistency.
Thankfully, it looks like we have a very marketable guy in Lillard. That could keep us afloat...
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Carmelo Anthony is marketable, and his team is bad. What matters is keeping LMA/Lillard/Batum together, and possibly Ropez, and then filling in the SG position and bench in with some players. Laugh at Mo Williams all we want, but without him, I'm not sure how the bench brings the ball up the court, let alone gets some buckets.
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That's what I'm talking about. We really can't afford that. They'll always "make" stars in NY and LA... Lillard has to earn his up here with the conjuction of wins... or the only thing we'll hear about Lillard (possibly) is the same stuff we hear from Kyrie.
You have to force the media to talk good about you, because they will ALWAYS find something bad to talk and write about.
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Carmelo Anthony was a star before he went to NYK. Plus, the Clippers didn't have a star for years until Paul and Griffin got there. You can't "make" stars if the players can't perform. Who was the last Knick "star" before Anthony? Ewing? Who was the last Clipper "star" before Paul (who was a star before) and Griffin? I can't think of one.
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They are trying to "make" Nick Young a star. Nicknames and such. "Making" doesn't mean they are actually good. "Making" is purely monetary.
Carmelo was a star, but he wasn't a superstar until he got to NY. Shaq was a star in ORL, but until he got to LA, he wasn't a superstar. The only reason CP3 went to the Clippers was to have LA be a bigger market for both teams. It was a complete business decision for the NBA. I understand that, but it doesn't make it right or fair. I can almost say that when trades are done, they have to go through the commissioner office for the itenary if they are a star.
As for the last knicks "Star". You could make a case for Allan Houston. Spreewell (Though, he was more of the Artest side of things), Mark Jackson. Marbury. (Though, the site I'm looking at for the history of the team has some really old picture of some white dude... it's great.) You can peruse through it.
http://longisland.newsday.com/sports/basketball/knicks/history/
My main thing is that with teams like us, we can't afford to lose consistency on wins. We have to play at an unreal level and either get in the WCF or Finals to have any longevity media wise. Hell, Memphis made it to the WCF and they still never get talked about. Spurs had a mini-dynasty and they have one of the best records in the league every year... but nothing. So, I may have just refuted my whole point. Regardless, with LA and NY they don't need to do anything but sign big stars and market them. Basketball is almost secondary to them at times.
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Who is trying to make Nick Young a star? What? Everything isn't a conspiracy. 99% of the USA has no idea who Nick Young is, nor should they.
Also, Marbury was a "star" in New Jersey and in Phoenix. In New York, he sucked, and fell off of the radar of the US general public. He didn't make an All Star game as a Knick.
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Is there any way to catch these segments online?
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Who is trying to make Nick Young a star? What? Everything isn't a conspiracy. 99% of the USA has no idea who Nick Young is, nor should they.
Also, Marbury was a "star" in New Jersey and in Phoenix. In New York, he sucked, and fell off of the radar of the US general public. He didn't make an All Star game as a Knick.
Just because they sucked in NY doesn't mean they didn't try to make him a star. Whether they failed or not is irrelevant, they try to spin it any way they can.
A great example of this is Jeremy Lin. He did well for 3 weeksish, and it's blown up all over the place. Then he goes to Houston... no one ever talks about him (with some help to the drama that is Dwight Howard... but hell, he doesn't even get talked about that much since he went to Houston.)
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I think it says a lot about how amazing our starters were at the start of the season, and they've been basically carrying this team on their back. Hopefully Neil can slowly build up the bench over the next couple years because I think it's the only thing standing in the way of a championship. He definitely improved on our shitty bench from last season, but it still needs a lot of work.
I mean, realistically, what would you change about the starting unit? I really like Rolo. I can't imagine replacing him unless a true star center wanted to come here (which I don't see happening.) The guy is just solid. He's not a star, but he does so many things. I can't say enough about that acquisition. Neil could have fucked up everything else and he still would have had a great summer just from the Lopez trade.
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I think the NBA is hoping Portland is the next early 2000's Sacramento Kings. Lots of similarities really--small market team that always puts on a great offensive show and has an exciting arena of fans.
Similarities continue if you think about it...shoot first PG with an excellent perimeter jumper, defensive SG, finesse Euro SF, superstar PF, limited defensively....starts breaking down when you bring the center and the bench into the discussion, but the blueprint is kind of there.
Similarities continue if you think about it...shoot first PG with an excellent perimeter jumper, defensive SG, finesse Euro SF, superstar PF, limited defensively....starts breaking down when you bring the center and the bench into the discussion, but the blueprint is kind of there.
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I wish we had a young-ish Vlade. Don't get me wrong, I love Rolo, but Vlade was a true pro. Dude was a great passing big man.
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I can't agree more. People always act like there is a grand conspiracy in the NBA to make the large markets successful and the small markets suffer. The Knicks have been a train wreck for nearly 15 years now. The Clippers were one of the laughingstocks of the league for decades. The Bulls were terrible for much of the 00's. the Heat were insignificant until they drafted Wade and brought in Riley. If the NBA was really rigged for tv ratings or large markets to win then the 2007 Finals would have never happened.
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Clippers didn't matter because of the Lakers. And this isn't about success, this is just about marketablility. The Knicks are always on TV whether they suck or not. Miam is ONLY popular because of Lebron now. (Even after they won the championship just with wade.) Heat index anyone? One finals doesn't mean that it's not swayed to the larger markets/stars. As for the Bulls, they probably still got just as many games nationally just because they were the Bulls years after Jordan left. Actually, even if they didn't, it was really just for Jordan anyway.
Funny thing is, NBA (and consequently, ESPN) makes no bones about it. It's a star driven league. And they'll make stars in big markets if they have to.
All this said, I hope Lillard can change the perception. He's the right person to do it, IMO.
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