Damion Lillard or Stephen Curry?

[BigGameDamian]

 

[Rhal]

Lillard only because Curry's ankles scare the crap out of me.

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[KingSpeed]

Lillard. Not close. You'll see on the 11th.

 

[3RA1N1AC]

they are having similar seasons and lillard is 2 years younger

 

[THE HCP]

Curry I think is a better pure shooter........ DL is better at everything else! I'll take Dame all day!

 

[BlazerWookee]

I'd take Nolan Smith over Curry.

<lights fuse, runs away, giggling maniacally>

 

[ebott]

I'm gonna go with Curry. I have a very hard time picking an unproven player over one that has done this for a few seasons. Also Curry didn't have any injury problems until his third season. Dame being a Blazer I'm going to presume injury prone until proven healthy.

 

[BlazerCaravan]

Dame being a Blazer I'm going to presume injury prone until proven healthy.

How do you prove a negative (that is, proving something that doesn't happen, like not getting injuries... only after they go through their career with no major injuries can you say they're not injury prone)? Also, if you pick Curry, doesn't that mean he's a Blazer, and thus injury prone?

 

[KingSpeed]

I'm gonna go with Curry. I have a very hard time picking an unproven player over one that has done this for a few seasons. Also Curry didn't have any injury problems until his third season. Dame being a Blazer I'm going to presume injury prone until proven healthy.

Took a few seasons to turn GS into a winner. Lillard's doing it in his rookie year.

 

[VanillaGorilla]

I'm gonna go with Curry. I have a very hard time picking an unproven player over one that has done this for a few seasons. Also Curry didn't have any injury problems until his third season. Dame being a Blazer I'm going to presume injury prone until proven healthy.

Flawless logic.

 

[DeanMoriarty]

Curry now, Lillard in 2-3 years.

 

[KingSpeed]

Curry now, Lillard in 2-3 years.

Backwards

Lillard now, Curry in 2-3 years

 

[Rhal]

I'm gonna go with Curry. I have a very hard time picking an unproven player over one that has done this for a few seasons. Also Curry didn't have any injury problems until his third season. Dame being a Blazer I'm going to presume injury prone until proven healthy.

Curry had ankle problems his rookie season and his second season and his third season and he has already had ankle problems in training camp and preseason.

 

[Rastapopoulos]

I'll take Damian Lillard over Damion Lillard any day.

 

[Rastapopoulos]

If you compare both of them at age 22 they're very similar. But there's something screwy there with Curry's games played...

I just worry that Lillard will be like Damon: an older player who wins ROY and then declines. Call me paranoid if you must.

(And we can't whine about the injury curse when we're talking about Golden State. Any curse we have, they have worse.)

 

[BlazerCaravan]

If you compare both of them at age 22 they're very similar. But there's something screwy there with Curry's games played...

I just worry that Lillard will be like Damon: an older player who wins ROY and then declines. Call me paranoid if you must.

(And we can't whine about the injury curse when we're talking about Golden State. Any curse we have, they have worse.)

By default, it compares cumulative seasons, not single seasons. Here's the single-season results: http://bkref.com/tiny/GFWLa

Hopefully Lillard can learn to be a bit more effective with his shot; it's his FG% that's dragging down his PER.

I was at the game where they had to play an active, injured guy for a play against us... that was kinda desperate.

 

[mook]

I wonder if some of Curry's better shooting percent was just playing next to Monta Ellis. So often when the Warriors' offense broke down Ellis would be there to get himself an open look. Curry didn't have to take the desperation shots. On the current Blazers team, Lillard is the only guy who can create a shot for himself.

Still, though, you hope his shot selection improves over time. As Batum continues to assert more of a Point Forward role, hopefully Lillard can focus a little more on getting more open looks for himself. Just because he can hit threes from 4 feet behind the arc doesn't mean he shouldn't wait for something a little better.

 

[illmatic99]

I was at the game where they had to play an active, injured guy for a play against us... that was kinda desperate.

Didn't we lose that game?

 

[Rastapopoulos]

By default, it compares cumulative seasons, not single seasons. Here's the single-season results: http://bkref.com/tiny/GFWLa

So - according to that Curry is significantly superior in just about every measure at the same age. Of course, he'd had a year to acclimate to the NBA.

 

[PapaG]

If you compare both of them at age 22 they're very similar. But there's something screwy there with Curry's games played...

I just worry that Lillard will be like Damon: an older player who wins ROY and then declines. Call me paranoid if you must.

(And we can't whine about the injury curse when we're talking about Golden State. Any curse we have, they have worse.)

Lillard has 5" in height on Stoudamire. Damon was unique because he was so quick, but he started having his own ankle problems and declined. Damon was also allowed to to whatever he wanted during his RoY season, because Toronto was pretty bad. Lillard went from the Big Sky conference to being PG for a team that would be in the playoffs if they started right now, and he's doing it with numbers that are rarely seen in NB A history for a rookie PG.

 

[BigGameDamian]

So if Lillard has already unseated Damon when Damon was such a big piece of the Blazers 2000 conference finals team, and when Lillard has not even got the Blazers to the playoffs yet, Then how come it's going to take Lillard so long to unseat Porter?

 

[PapaG]

So if Lillard has already unseated Damon when Damon was such a big piece of the Blazers 2000 conference finals team, and when Lillard has not even got the Blazers to the playoffs yet, Then how come it's going to take Lillard so long to unseat Porter?

Damon was maybe what, the 4th most important player on the 2000 team? Sabas, Sheed, and Pippen were all more valuable, and Bonzi Wells abused Kobe in the post during that series as well.

 

[SnakeOiler]

Damon was maybe what, the 4th most important player on the 2000 team? Sabas, Sheed, and Pippen were all more valuable, and Bonzi Wells abused Kobe in the post during that series as well.

Pretty sure pippen was 00-01

 

[jlprk]

I am going to KICK OFF that helmet!

 

[Rhal]

Damon was maybe what, the 4th most important player on the 2000 team? Sabas, Sheed, and Pippen were all more valuable, and Bonzi Wells abused Kobe in the post during that series as well.

I'd put Steve Smith ahead of him too, he was lighting it up in the playoffs for us. Hell I might put Grant/Wells ahead of him. Stoudamire was very very underwhelming in the playoffs.

 

[Rhal]

Pretty sure pippen was 00-01

Pippen was in 99. We traded for him when Houston chose to keep Barkley over him.

 

[ebott]

Curry had ankle problems his rookie season and his second season and his third season and he has already had ankle problems in training camp and preseason.

I'm pretty much just looking at his stats and it looks to me like he played most of his first two seasons.

 

[ebott]

Flawless logic.

If Lillard is still playing in his third season I'm gonna be routinely pinching myself.

 

[PapaG]

Pretty sure pippen was 00-01

Um, Pippen was on the 2000 WCF team. DERP

Step up you game if you're going to try and snark.

 

[PapaG]

I'd put Steve Smith ahead of him too, he was lighting it up in the playoffs for us. Hell I might put Grant/Wells ahead of him. Stoudamire was very very underwhelming in the playoffs.

Yeah, I forgot about The Great 8 from Michigan State as well. Damon was argualby behind Greg Anthony at the end of games that season, when you look back on it.