Dan Gilbret's Letter to stern

[deception]

http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/news?slug=ys-nba_dan_gilbert_email_lakers_hornets_trade_120811

Commissioner,

It would be a travesty to allow the Lakers to acquire Chris Paul in the apparent trade being discussed.

This trade should go to a vote of the 29 owners of the Hornets.

Over the next three seasons this deal would save the Lakers approximately $20 million in salaries and approximately $21 million in luxury taxes. That $21 million goes to non-taxpaying teams and to fund revenue sharing.

I cannot remember ever seeing a trade where a team got by far the best player in the trade and saved over $40 million in the process. And it doesn’t appear that they would give up any draft picks, which might allow to later make a trade for Dwight Howard. (They would also get a large trade exception that would help them improve their team and/or eventually trade for Howard.) When the Lakers got Pau Gasol (at the time considered an extremely lopsided trade) they took on tens of millions in additional salary and luxury tax and they gave up a number of prospects (one in Marc Gasol who may become a max-salary player).

I just don’t see how we can allow this trade to happen.

I know the vast majority of owners feel the same way that I do.

When will we just change the name of 25 of the 30 teams to the Washington Generals?

Please advise….

Dan G.

 

[deception]

first, who leaked this? second, gilbret has bigger balls than cuban

 

[Boob-No-More]

http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/news?slug=ys-nba_dan_gilbert_email_lakers_hornets_trade_120811

"When will we just change the name of 25 of the 30 teams to the Washington Generals?"

I'm REALLY starting to like this Gilbert guy.

About time someone besides Cuban stood up to that manipulative little prick Stern.

Gilbert's right. NOH are owned collectively by the league - meaning the other owners. They are NOT the personal property of David Stern, Inc. ANY trade the Hornets make should be put to a vote of all the other owners.

BNM

 

[THE HCP]

Bet Cleveland gets the shittiest schedule for the next decade!

 

[Natebishop3]

Dude is spot on and I'm glad he spoke up.

 

[Charcoal Filtered]

Anyone that has sympathy for Gilbert should be forced to live in Cleveland for a decade. I bet your opinion changes on day 1.

We missed some great basketball from KG being locked away in Minnesota. The Laker offer was more than fair since Odom and Gasol was not chopped liver. Gilbert brings up the haul that the Griz got back, but forgets that the Griz also had to take Kwame. They got lucky in Marc Gasol being good since he lasted so long in the draft.

Even though he is not going to play for us, I hope CP3 does not continue to get unfair treatment since the league owns the Hornets.

 

[illmatic99]

Anyone that has sympathy for Gilbert should be forced to live in Cleveland for a decade. I bet your opinion changes on day 1.

Yup.

 

[Draco]

We missed some great basketball from KG being locked away in Minnesota.

So you don't want superstars to be in small markets because not as many people could see them?

The NBA owners all equally paid money to own the Hornets, so they should all equally get a voice in how that team is run. I gotta agree with Gilbert. The main thing he asked for is that the owners get to vote their input on the biggest decision of something they own. That is the norm for all owners in whatever business they are involved in. Think of being a stock owner, you have voting shares and have input in decisions. Similar situation here.

 

[JfizzleBlazer]

Except they are all tainted because they own a team in the same organization. They don't care about the Hornets. They care about their own teams.

 

[noknobs]

Anyone that has sympathy for Gilbert should be forced to live in Cleveland for a decade. I bet your opinion changes on day 1.

Even though he is not going to play for us, I hope CP3 does not continue to get unfair treatment since the league owns the Hornets.

I have zero sympathy for poor, put upon Paul, who could of had a huge contract in a city that loves him. But he shit on them. They're not good enough for Chris Paul.

The league is doing nothing to CP3 that CP3 isn't doing to them. Paul is essentially vetoing the owner(s) trades unless it's to his liking, where he can make his own wittle super team with all his wittle super pals.

The league should sue him right back. It'll have the same amount of success.

Again, why would another owner agree to a NO deal that not only helps your opponent but loses you money through revenue sharing? Doesn't seem like a model for success, does it. If NO wants to deal Paul, start with something that doesn't lose other teams money. Or, if you must, find a fucking buyer and sell it.

Let's say you're a team... A team that agreed with NO in a extend-and-trade deal, but it was nixed because Paul doesn't think you're good enough, or big enough, and so he won't sign an extension and now you can't have him. That's what Paul's doing to the majority of the teams in the league. And now he wants them, as his own owners, to let him have his way? Good luck with that, Paul.

Next time before burning bridges, make sure you don't need them.

 

[Fez Hammersticks]

Gilbert is awesome!

I just wonder if the letter was in comic sans...

 

[deception]

chris paul is a depreciating asset who was totally reliant on speed and thats the first thing that goes with nba athletes. moreover, paul is a jerk, who on the court constantly berates his teammates.

if he wants to go to LA or NY, he can leave in the offseason and sign for the vet min.

 

[Blazer4ever]

Sorry to say this but the league cancelling the trade because they "own the Hornets" is pure BS.
Even if as a Blazers fan I have many reasons to hate the Lakers and defiinitely don't want Paul, Kobe, possibly Howard playing together for a division rival, I find this to be very wrong.
I believe in playing by the rules, and if the rules allow such trade "the league" can't suddenly switch hats and say they deny this trade.
What trade would they allow then? Or would they allow only Paul leaving for nothing? and would that be the Hornets interest?
Dragic, Martin, Odom and Scola with Okafor is a better starting five than they have now, even with Paul. This is just Pure BS!

 

[Rastapopoulos]

Sorry to say this but the league cancelling the trade because they "own the Hornets" is pure BS.

Why? Owners are allowed to nix any trades. We would have had Chris Paul a couple of years back if it hadn't been for the owner who nixed a trade that the GMs had agreed on. This is what's stupid ABOUT the league owning the Hornets. Remember, the other owners actually have to contribute money to pay the salaries of the Hornets players. Why shouldn't they have a say like EVERY OTHER OWNER.

As soon as a buyer arrives for the Hornets, or, perhaps better, they get contracted, this will go away.

 

[illmatic99]

This was the Blazers thing from July, 2010.

http://blog.oregonlive.com/blazers/2010/07/ford_trail_blazers_were_close.html

The Blazers got close to a deal with the Hornets last week that would've sent Andre Miller, Joel Przybilla, Nicolas Batum, Jerryd Bayless and the 22nd pick to NO for Paul before Jeff Bower pulled out of the deal saying that their owner wasn't ready to trade Paul. The trade they made on draft night got them out of the luxury tax, so that's no longer the issue. The issue is whether Paul is no unhappy enough to force a trade. Personally I think the Hornets can do better than that for Paul, but it's a viable deal.

 

[PtldPlatypus]

Why? Owners are allowed to nix any trades. We would have had Chris Paul a couple of years back if it hadn't been for the owner who nixed a trade that the GMs had agreed on. This is what's stupid ABOUT the league owning the Hornets. Remember, the other owners actually have to contribute money to pay the salaries of the Hornets players. Why shouldn't they have a say like EVERY OTHER OWNER.

Exactly. It makes it salacious to scream "LEAGUE OFFICES VETO TRADE" because it sounds like a precedent-setting overreach; but in reality they weren't acting as "The League" so much as "The Owner". George Shinn kills a trade negotiated by his team's GM--no big deal. David Stern killing a trade negotiated by his GM is in reality no different.

 

[Bob Dobalina]

So you don't want superstars to be in small markets because not as many people could see them?

I'm interested in his answer to this question.

 

[BrianFromWA]

So is PA calling for a vote to fire Dell Demps and replace him with 2 scouts and Nate?

 

[Bob Dobalina]

Exactly. It makes it salacious to scream "LEAGUE OFFICES VETO TRADE" because it sounds like a precedent-setting overreach; but in reality they weren't acting as "The League" so much as "The Owner". George Shinn kills a trade negotiated by his team's GM--no big deal. David Stern kills a trade negotiated by his GM is in reality no different.

Except that Stern isn't the "owner" correct? Makes sense to me that the owners would vote.

 

[Blazer4ever]

I agree that the entire situation of the NBA owning the Hornets is stupid, but this last move makes it impossible. If I was the Hornets owner (or fan) I approve this trade but if I'm another team's owner I don't want the Lakers to have Chris Paul. BTW, If any owner should have vetoed this deal it's the Rockets', imo.

 

[BrianFromWA]

maybe he was one of the 15 or more.

 

[PtldPlatypus]

Except that Stern isn't the "owner" correct? Makes sense to me that the owners would vote.

He's not "the owner", but he represents "the owners" in terms of the league's interests. "The owners" need to vote on things that are being collectively bargained, but they certainly don't vote on all of the league's decisions. They can certainly provide influence, but I imagine (key word here, since I'm just speculating) that Stern can act unilaterally in many instances.

 

[PtldPlatypus]

BTW, If any owner should have vetoed this deal it's the Rockets', imo.

maybe he was one of the 15 or more.

If Leslie Alexander (quick--how many people knew the name of the Rockets' owner?) were against the trade, he could have vetoed the whole thing from his end; he didn't need to have the league kill it.

 

[BoBoBREWSKI]

Sorry to say this but the league cancelling the trade because they "own the Hornets" is pure BS.
Even if as a Blazers fan I have many reasons to hate the Lakers and defiinitely don't want Paul, Kobe, possibly Howard playing together for a division rival, I find this to be very wrong.
I believe in playing by the rules, and if the rules allow such trade "the league" can't suddenly switch hats and say they deny this trade.
What trade would they allow then? Or would they allow only Paul leaving for nothing? and would that be the Hornets interest?
Dragic, Martin, Odom and Scola with Okafor is a better starting five than they have now, even with Paul. This is just Pure BS!

Anyone that has sympathy for Gilbert should be forced to live in Cleveland for a decade. I bet your opinion changes on day 1.

We missed some great basketball from KG being locked away in Minnesota. The Laker offer was more than fair since Odom and Gasol was not chopped liver. Gilbert brings up the haul that the Griz got back, but forgets that the Griz also had to take Kwame. They got lucky in Marc Gasol being good since he lasted so long in the draft.

Even though he is not going to play for us, I hope CP3 does not continue to get unfair treatment since the league owns the Hornets.

I agree! Except for the "KG being locked away" statement.

 

[julius]

If Leslie Alexander (quick--how many people knew the name of the Rockets' owner?) were against the trade, he could have vetoed the whole thing from his end; he didn't need to have the league kill it.

I knew that was the Rockets owners name. The issue is that his vote is only 1 Of the group that owns the team.

 

[BoBoBREWSKI]

Gilbert is mad because his Cav's lost Lebron for nothing, he wants the same to happen to the Hornets.

 

[craigehlo]

If the Lakers want to fleece a team in a trade they a free to do so. Just make a deal with a team that's not owned by the rest of the NBA franchises.

 

[BrianFromWA]

 

[PtldPlatypus]

I knew that was the Rockets owners name. The issue is that his vote is only 1 Of the group that owns the team.

His vote is only 1 of the group that owns the Hornets, sure. But he also controls the third team in this deal. Without his approval, the deal doesn't go through.

 

[craigehlo]

Also, this isn't the fist time Hornets management has pissed off the NBA. Then they traded Thornton for Landry they threw in cash to make the deal more palatable to the Kings. That obviously pissed a lot of owners off at the time.

I know Dale Demps wants to run the Hornets like it's not currently owned by the rest of the NBA, but that's simply not reality.