Deandre Jordan

[Claud]

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[Claud]

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[SportsTicker]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Claud @ May 2 2008, 04:40 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div><object width="425" height="350"><param name="movie" value=" width=&"></param><param name="wmode" value="transparent"></param><embed src=" width=&" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" wmode="transparent" width="425" height="350" /></embed></object></div></div>

Those are from high school.

Here's something that is less encouraging. Last summer, he was part of the U19 World Championship team that went to Novi Sad, Serbia, and finished second to the home team. After a big game against Mali, a west African country without much of a basketball tradition, he sat most of the rest of the tournament. In the final, he played five minutes, scoring one point and grabbing three rebounds. His teammates included Michael Beasley, Donte Greene and Stephen Curry.

For the tournament, Jordan averaged 5.3 ppg. And check out his profile. He is listed in the FIBA guide at 6'10", not 7'0". (Beasley is listed at 6'8")

Some other draft prospects played a lot better. Victor Claver, listed at 6'9" by FIBA--and 6'11" by ESPN, averaged 17.6 ppg and 8.6 ppg. Michael Beasley averaged 12.8 and 5.3 and Nicholas Batum of France, 11.7 and 5.3. Mladen Jeremic, a 6'6" sharpshooter for Serbia who destroyed the US in the finals--and who is an early entry in this year's draft, averaged 14.7 and shot almost 50% from the arc.

http://www.usabasketball.com/men_team.php?page=mu19wc

http://www.serbia2007.fiba.com/pages/eng/f...4414/index.html

 

[Astral]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Claud @ May 2 2008, 04:35 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div><object width="425" height="350"><param name="movie" value=" width=&"></param><param name="wmode" value="transparent"></param><embed src=" width=&" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" wmode="transparent" width="425" height="350" /></embed></object></div></div>
Here's what I saw in that video:
-Slow runner
-Horrible hands
-Struggles to make layups
-Relies strictly on his athleticism
-Barely looks to pass

There's no way Frank would ever play this kid.

 

[JCB]

Stay as far away from him as possible. I have never understood the obsession with this kid.

 

[reganomics813]

Is it me or is it actually easier to count who doesn't have a basketball with a cross on their arm than the other way around?

I want no part of this kid whatsoever. Trade up!

 

[GMJ]

Yeah but guys he's as tall as Dwight Howard and he can dunk really well. Therefore, obviously, he will be as good at basketball as he is.





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[reganomics813]

Dwight Howard is a lazy comparison for any big man that has a decent frame and athleticism. Dwight Howards are not available at #10 in the draft.

 

[J-HoAgZ]

Howard was very raw and weak coming into the Draft also. I think DeAndre does have to potential to be the next Dwight Howard. However, he also has to potential to be the next bench player who gets traded around the league or cut. It's obvious that Jordan is a Boom or Bust type of player but I'd take a chance on him. High risk high reward.

Also Jordan really has to get a whole lot stronger if he wants to be a great NBA Center along with every big man on our roster. If this kid can get stronger his confidence will soar and I can see him being the next Dwight Howard. But, he really has to be determined and wiling to work hard to get that far.

haha his real name is "Hyland DeAndre Jordan"

 

[Claud]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (J-HoAgZ @ May 3 2008, 02:42 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Howard was very raw and weak coming into the Draft also. I think DeAndre does have to potential to be the next Dwight Howard. However, he also has to potential to be the next bench player who gets traded around the league or cut. It's obvious that Jordan is a Boom or Bust type of player but I'd take a chance on him. High risk high reward.

Also Jordan really has to get a whole lot stronger if he wants to be a great NBA Center along with every big man on our roster. If this kid can get stronger his confidence will soar and I can see him being the next Dwight Howard. But, he really has to be determined and wiling to work hard to get that far.

haha his real name is "Hyland DeAndre Jordan"</div>

I agree man.. its high risk but the dividends could be huge. Isnt taking a risk part of Drafts? I would give him a chance if anything like someone said before.. trade him if it doesnt work out hes still young and raw just like howard was.

 

[GMJ]

But if he doesn't work out why would a team trade you anything for him.

 

[ly_yng]

I was really hoping Deandre Jordan was a supermodel RJ had hooked up with or something...

Oh well.

 

[Astral]

Howard was "raw" because he was coming out of high school. This kid is not only raw as in he's unpolished, but he has a history of mental problems. He doesn't care often, he doesn't work hard. In all the highlights you can find of him, you wont find a single defensive play. Plus, watch the videos. He's SLOW. Howard is a power player, but he's also very mobile. Jordan isn't even close to being on the same level.

These Howard comparisons are ridiculous. Look at what Howard did this year. He became a nationwide known superstar because of the way he acted, that shows brains. (just look at how he planned out the All-Star break)

 

[Dumpy]

besides, wasn't Howard a #1 pick--and a consensus #1? (let me know if I'm misremembering here)

 

[Charles]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Dumpy @ May 3 2008, 10:10 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>besides, wasn't Howard a #1 pick--and a consensus #1? (let me know if I'm misremembering here)</div>

Some people wanted Emeka Okafor at #1, most wanted Dwight.

 

[Dumpy]

Sean was the first clear "project" pick Rod has taken, and that was in part due to where they were selecting . . . The Nets really tend to take players who are more likely to contribute NOW. I can't see the Nets taking a guy who is just ranked in "potential," not preformance. Yes, the Nets may rate prospects a little differently with Wiki on board, but I just can't see them with two project big men on the roster.

 

[Claud]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (GMJigga @ May 3 2008, 06:27 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>But if he doesn't work out why would a team trade you anything for him.</div>

Maybe the team thats trading for him has different expectations. And we wont trade him for alot i guess.

 

[Claud]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Dumpy @ May 3 2008, 09:10 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>besides, wasn't Howard a #1 pick--and a consensus #1? (let me know if I'm misremembering here)</div>

Howard was second to emeka i think . im not sure

 

[GMJ]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Claud @ May 4 2008, 03:46 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (GMJigga @ May 3 2008, 06:27 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>But if he doesn't work out why would a team trade you anything for him.</div>

Maybe the team thats trading for him has different expectations. And we wont trade him for alot i guess.

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So either you find another team that doesn't follow the NBA, or you admittedly waste a top 10 draft pick...

 

[Claud]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (GMJigga @ May 4 2008, 03:55 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Claud @ May 4 2008, 03:46 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (GMJigga @ May 3 2008, 06:27 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>But if he doesn't work out why would a team trade you anything for him.</div>

Maybe the team thats trading for him has different expectations. And we wont trade him for alot i guess.

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So either you find another team that doesn't follow the NBA, or you admittedly waste a top 10 draft pick...
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I dont know man thats a risk we may have to take

 

[GMJ]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Claud @ May 4 2008, 04:11 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (GMJigga @ May 4 2008, 03:55 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Claud @ May 4 2008, 03:46 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (GMJigga @ May 3 2008, 06:27 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>But if he doesn't work out why would a team trade you anything for him.</div>

Maybe the team thats trading for him has different expectations. And we wont trade him for alot i guess.

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So either you find another team that doesn't follow the NBA, or you admittedly waste a top 10 draft pick...
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I dont know man thats a risk we may have to take

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No one's forcing a gun to THRON's head. Jordan won't be the only available player at 10...

 

[Claud]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (GMJigga @ May 4 2008, 04:27 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Claud @ May 4 2008, 04:11 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (GMJigga @ May 4 2008, 03:55 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Claud @ May 4 2008, 03:46 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (GMJigga @ May 3 2008, 06:27 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>But if he doesn't work out why would a team trade you anything for him.</div>

Maybe the team thats trading for him has different expectations. And we wont trade him for alot i guess.

</div>

So either you find another team that doesn't follow the NBA, or you admittedly waste a top 10 draft pick...
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I dont know man thats a risk we may have to take

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No one's forcing a gun to THRON's head. Jordan won't be the only available player at 10...
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I know that but if we decide on drafting him. Then we should know that hes a gamble. It could be great, but it also could suck baddd

 

[J-HoAgZ]

I'm unsure about DeAndre. I mean his upside is ridiculous and he has all the ability and tools to be even BETTER than Dwight Howard. But out of the little I've seen from him I just don't see the drive and comitment that Howard had in Jordan. Dwight is a leader who wants to win, the team revolves around him, he loves doing the dirty work like rebounds, and he leaves it all out on the floor each and every night. I just don't see any of that in Jordan. I'm hoping I'm wrong b/c I really haven't seen very much from him but that's just what I see out of him so far.

 

[GMJ]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Claud @ May 4 2008, 05:13 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (GMJigga @ May 4 2008, 04:27 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Claud @ May 4 2008, 04:11 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (GMJigga @ May 4 2008, 03:55 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Claud @ May 4 2008, 03:46 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (GMJigga @ May 3 2008, 06:27 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>But if he doesn't work out why would a team trade you anything for him.</div>

Maybe the team thats trading for him has different expectations. And we wont trade him for alot i guess.

</div>

So either you find another team that doesn't follow the NBA, or you admittedly waste a top 10 draft pick...
</div>


I dont know man thats a risk we may have to take

</div>

No one's forcing a gun to THRON's head. Jordan won't be the only available player at 10...
</div>

I know that but if we decide on drafting him. Then we should know that hes a gamble. It could be great, but it also could suck baddd
</div>

No shit haha, but why take such a huge gamble when there are other quality players available. Although really to say that its a gamble isn't exactly accurate. You can look at a prospect and see where they're at, skill wise. I get the superficial reasons that would cause someone to take a first glance at Jordan, but once you take a look at the player he is I don't see how you can think its a good idea to draft him that high.

"But he could become really great, he could become like _______" Ask yourself how you came to that conclusion. What makes you think he could become some great basketball player? Because he's tall? please. Because he can dunk? ugh.

 

[Claud]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (GMJigga @ May 4 2008, 04:22 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Claud @ May 4 2008, 05:13 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (GMJigga @ May 4 2008, 04:27 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Claud @ May 4 2008, 04:11 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (GMJigga @ May 4 2008, 03:55 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Claud @ May 4 2008, 03:46 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (GMJigga @ May 3 2008, 06:27 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>But if he doesn't work out why would a team trade you anything for him.</div>

Maybe the team thats trading for him has different expectations. And we wont trade him for alot i guess.

</div>

So either you find another team that doesn't follow the NBA, or you admittedly waste a top 10 draft pick...
</div>


I dont know man thats a risk we may have to take

</div>

No one's forcing a gun to THRON's head. Jordan won't be the only available player at 10...
</div>

I know that but if we decide on drafting him. Then we should know that hes a gamble. It could be great, but it also could suck baddd
</div>

No shit haha, but why take such a huge gamble when there are other quality players available. Although really to say that its a gamble isn't exactly accurate. You can look at a prospect and see where they're at, skill wise. I get the superficial reasons that would cause someone to take a first glance at Jordan, but once you take a look at the player he is I don't see how you can think its a good idea to draft him that high.

"But he could become really great, he could become like _______" Ask yourself how you came to that conclusion. What makes you think he could become some great basketball player? Because he's tall? please. Because he can dunk? ugh.
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He has the same tools as D Howard did when he came into the league. Except work ethic and dedication. Im not saying we should draft him. But we shouldn't dismiss the idea either.

 

[GMJ]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Claud @ May 4 2008, 04:40 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (GMJigga @ May 4 2008, 04:22 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Claud @ May 4 2008, 05:13 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (GMJigga @ May 4 2008, 04:27 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Claud @ May 4 2008, 04:11 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (GMJigga @ May 4 2008, 03:55 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Claud @ May 4 2008, 03:46 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (GMJigga @ May 3 2008, 06:27 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>But if he doesn't work out why would a team trade you anything for him.</div>

Maybe the team thats trading for him has different expectations. And we wont trade him for alot i guess.

</div>

So either you find another team that doesn't follow the NBA, or you admittedly waste a top 10 draft pick...
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I dont know man thats a risk we may have to take

</div>

No one's forcing a gun to THRON's head. Jordan won't be the only available player at 10...
</div>

I know that but if we decide on drafting him. Then we should know that hes a gamble. It could be great, but it also could suck baddd
</div>

No shit haha, but why take such a huge gamble when there are other quality players available. Although really to say that its a gamble isn't exactly accurate. You can look at a prospect and see where they're at, skill wise. I get the superficial reasons that would cause someone to take a first glance at Jordan, but once you take a look at the player he is I don't see how you can think its a good idea to draft him that high.

"But he could become really great, he could become like _______" Ask yourself how you came to that conclusion. What makes you think he could become some great basketball player? Because he's tall? please. Because he can dunk? ugh.
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He has the same tools as D Howard did when he came into the league. Except work ethic and dedication. Im not saying we should draft him. But we shouldn't dismiss the idea either.
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Same tools. Everyone loves talking about same tools. Manute Bol had great tools. James White had great tools. So what if he's tall and can dunk, that doesn't mean he's a good basketball player.

 

[Claud]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (GMJigga @ May 4 2008, 04:44 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Claud @ May 4 2008, 04:40 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (GMJigga @ May 4 2008, 04:22 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Claud @ May 4 2008, 05:13 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (GMJigga @ May 4 2008, 04:27 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Claud @ May 4 2008, 04:11 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (GMJigga @ May 4 2008, 03:55 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Claud @ May 4 2008, 03:46 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (GMJigga @ May 3 2008, 06:27 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>But if he doesn't work out why would a team trade you anything for him.</div>

Maybe the team thats trading for him has different expectations. And we wont trade him for alot i guess.

</div>

So either you find another team that doesn't follow the NBA, or you admittedly waste a top 10 draft pick...
</div>


I dont know man thats a risk we may have to take

</div>

No one's forcing a gun to THRON's head. Jordan won't be the only available player at 10...
</div>

I know that but if we decide on drafting him. Then we should know that hes a gamble. It could be great, but it also could suck baddd
</div>

No shit haha, but why take such a huge gamble when there are other quality players available. Although really to say that its a gamble isn't exactly accurate. You can look at a prospect and see where they're at, skill wise. I get the superficial reasons that would cause someone to take a first glance at Jordan, but once you take a look at the player he is I don't see how you can think its a good idea to draft him that high.

"But he could become really great, he could become like _______" Ask yourself how you came to that conclusion. What makes you think he could become some great basketball player? Because he's tall? please. Because he can dunk? ugh.
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He has the same tools as D Howard did when he came into the league. Except work ethic and dedication. Im not saying we should draft him. But we shouldn't dismiss the idea either.
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Same tools. Everyone loves talking about same tools. Manute Bol had great tools. James White had great tools. So what if he's tall and can dunk, that doesn't mean he's a good basketball player.
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I never said he was. I said he has the tools like the players you mentioned to be a good player. Maybe even great. Its up to him and whoever is his coach to get him to that level.

 

[GMJ]

It's correct that you didn't say he was a good basketball player, but isn't that the point? Isn't that what you hope to draft with a top 10 pick? And who cares about physical measurements if they don't use them. It's just not worth the risk of wasting a high pick on this guy. Look at what he's done at Texas A&M, he didn't even start! He's currently a college prospect, not yet a genuine potential NBA player.

 

[Claud]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (GMJigga @ May 4 2008, 05:12 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>It's correct that you didn't say he was a good basketball player, but isn't that the point? Isn't that what you hope to draft with a top 10 pick? And who cares about physical measurements if they don't use them. It's just not worth the risk of wasting a high pick on this guy. Look at what he's done at Texas A&M, he didn't even start! He's currently a college prospect, not yet a genuine potential NBA player.</div>


I agree. ^
Hey im having problems finding any vids of Anthony Randolph from LSU... Help?

 

[Jizzy]

nbadraft blows at player comparisons. lets not forget the infamous Deshawn stevenson-Micheal Jordan comparison or Kwame Brown - KG