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You're right. I better run down and get some rich parents and some mustache wax, quick. Hopefully nobody smashes the windows out of my artisan cupcake store, but if they do, that's ok.
It's not hiding from all this horrible stuff that you need to do it's go to where there's greener pasture, you know, a nice red state where government is run more efficiently.

Meanwhile, I hope you're baking cupcakes, which I love dearly, for homosexual couples.

Geez, do you guys make cupcakes with true buttercream frosting? You might find another customer right here.
 
Democrats have no idea how to play this game unfortunately. Cost them a presidential election, might cost them the next one too.

If they don't, it's because they've only recently forgotten. It's been what, 30 years since we had a republican governor?

barfo
 
Knute is running a great race.

Kate is not running a race at all.

For the dems not to run a challenger in the primary against her was a huge mistake. She didn't get the experience she needed to hold off a challenger.

Dems seem more fixated on trying to get Knute removed from the ballot instead of campaigning against him.

Knute is using a very simple strategy, get all of the republican votes and 1 out of 10 dem votes and he'll be governor.

His pro choice ad and that ad with the gay couple on foster care and adoption are very effective that will get some dems to vote for him.

Prediction: Knute will be the next governor.

(That is not an endorsement of Knute.)

Yeah... No...
 
If they don't, it's because they've only recently forgotten. It's been what, 30 years since we had a republican governor?

barfo

I was speaking to a national level not locally. Oregon cant seem to fathom a Rep governor
 
It's not hiding from all this horrible stuff that you need to do it's go to where there's greener pasture, you know, a nice red state where government is run more efficiently.

Meanwhile, I hope you're baking cupcakes, which I love dearly, for homosexual couples.

Geez, do you guys make cupcakes with true buttercream frosting? You might find another customer right here.

Dems ARE the RED STATE, how’s their government running?
 
The last good Republican governor we had was Tom McCall.

Governor McCall's son sat next to me in high school. The kid was drunk virtually every time he came to school. Too bad, 'cause I liked the governor. The kid died in 1990 of a drug overdose.

The governor's mother used to run a store near where I lived in NW Portland. The store was on 23rd. Ave. near Lovejoy street. Nice elderly lady.
You don't think Atiyeh did a decent job guiding the state through the recession in the 80's?
 
Southern Oregon is eventually going to get an R elected and you guys are going to hate us even more than you already do.
Why should anyone hate Southern Oregon? I've got two buddies from there, Coos Bay to be exact.
 
My mom is out visiting from Portland. Every time she comes out she talks about how much worse things have gotten there. She's pretty much over it at this point and trying to get out of there. She's always voted Democratic and is currently so disgusted with democrats she may never vote for one again. I get the same sentiment from other friends and family members from there also. They've almost all moved away from Portland, if not completely out of the state. It's just not worth it anymore. The lawmakers there pander to the fringe left extreme and it's just pissing everyone off, especially other democrats who aren't as extreme.
You don't think Atiyeh did a decent job guiding the state through the recession in the 80's?
Actually (at least as I remember it) Atiyeh (who was a very nice guy) led us into the recession. I went to work in Salem in 1985 and I remember thinking, “will the last person to leave please turn out the lights?” Atiyeh also bears a large share of the responsibility for some of the more egregious PERS issues we are dealing with today (though I am personally grateful for what PERS I do draw today, despite it significantly reduced via the “reforms” of the past 15 years). Atiyeh was a good person and a heckuva business man but not a particularly effective Governor. But then, neither were the line of Democrats who succeeded him......
 
I'm happy to say that Knute doesn't stand a chance in hell. It's gonna be close to a landslide. You can mark my words.
I can’t help but get the feeling that you are “whistling past the graveyard”.........As @jonnyboy was alluding to, Trump didn’t “stand a chance in hell” and we all know how that turned out. Never say never. This former Democrat (now Independent) is chomping at the bit to vote for Buehler. Kate Brown is Hillary Lite.....and just as shitty of a choice.....
 
I don't know Oregon politics but there are no choices with a two party, self centered, party loyal, greedy, screw citizens, usual crap political system. It's a carbon through the country. I live in Jersey, land of this crap.
 
I can’t help but get the feeling that you are “whistling past the graveyard”.........As @jonnyboy was alluding to, Trump didn’t “stand a chance in hell” and we all know how that turned out. Never say never. This former Democrat (now Independent) is chomping at the bit to vote for Buehler. Kate Brown is Hillary Lite.....and just as shitty of a choice.....



Pretty damn brave of you to admit in today's news cycle. As for me, I have shifted from far right to Independent after some serious review of the political disasters of the past 35 years.
 
I am, and always have been, an Independent. It kinda sucks because you can't vote in the D or R primary and it's almost always going to be a D or R winning the General. It would be nice to be able to influence the primaries, but just can't align myself with either the D's or the R's.
 
am, and always have been, an Independent. It kinda sucks because you can't vote in the D or R primary

This is the exact loophole that keeps D's and R's in power. Most people arent politically interested enough to vote in primaries, so by the time the General rolls around, all you got left is one of these dickbags to vote for. The D's and R's get all their homeboys to show up for the primaries that nobody else participates in, and they basically clean up shop as far as votes are concerned. Game over. Election won by either a Dem or Repub (who are coincidentally funded by the same interests) every single time. There needs to be more emphasis on the importance of the primaries, but don't expect it from the media.
 
This is the exact loophole that keeps D's and R's in power. Most people arent politically interested enough to vote in primaries, so by the time the General rolls around, all you got left is one of these dickbags to vote for. The D's and R's get all their homeboys to show up for the primaries that nobody else participates in, and they basically clean up shop as far as votes are concerned. Game over. Election won by either a Dem or Repub (who are coincidentally funded by the same interests) every single time. There needs to be more emphasis on the importance of the primaries, but don't expect it from the media.

Agreed - the voters could change this. They choose not to, by not voting. I don't think it has to do with the media. Voters are simply happy to let someone else decide for them rather than go to the effort of voting.

barfo
 
I don't know Oregon politics but there are no choices with a two party, self centered, party loyal, greedy, screw citizens, usual crap political system. It's a carbon through the country. I live in Jersey, land of this crap.
I used to live in New Jersey. Awfully cold in the winter but the spring and summer were fabulous. Loved the board walk along the beach. I suppose the boardwalk is gone now due to the storms.

Edit: OMG, the pizza. Even 50 years later I still remember the fabulous pizza. And you could buy pizza by the slice in Manhattan and it was worth writing home about.

If you go to NW 23rd avenue, you can get great pizza from and very very informal restaurant called "Escape from New York". They have a small area reserved for eating right there or you can do what many customers do and get yours take-out style.
 
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Whoever wins the next governorship in Oregon, will be whichever candidate Multnomah, Clackamas and Washington county deem their choice.
I would say whoever produces the most votes will produce the governor. Would you have it any other way?
 
Yes, Oregon should have an electoral college system to represent each county equally.
So, a vote in a sparsely populated county is more important than other votes?
 
So, a vote in a sparsely populated county is more important than other votes?

Hey, it works really really well at the federal level, so why not? It would be fun having Oregon governed by say, one of the Hammonds, right?

barfo
 
Hey, it works really really well at the federal level, so why not? It would be fun having Oregon governed by say, one of the Hammonds, right?

barfo
Right? Yes, right, exactly right.
 
Hey, it works really really well at the federal level, so why not? It would be fun having Oregon governed by say, one of the Hammonds, right?

barfo

That's not exactly how it works on the federal level.
 
I used to live in New Jersey. Awfully cold in the winter but the spring and summer were fabulous. Loved the board walk along the beach. I suppose the boardwalk is gone now due to the storms.

Edit: OMG, the pizza. Even 50 years later I still remember the fabulous pizza. And you could buy pizza by the slice in Manhattan and it was worth writing home about.

If you go to NW 23rd avenue, you can get great pizza from and very very informal restaurant called "Escape from New York". They have a small area reserved for eating right there or you can do what many customers do and get yours take-out style.
Lanny Boardwalks are here and thriving. My wife and I bought her dream beach house last year in Seaside. What a deal ! A town house in a condo association for only 170. For all the food and beer I consume we walk it off on the board walk or at the bay. I'm here now doing this and listening to Dire Straits and the Ojays. Have a good weekend Bro Pizza or Tomato pie is supreme in NY/NJ!
 
Lanny Boardwalks are here and thriving. My wife and I bought her dream beach house last year in Seaside. What a deal ! A town house in a condo association for only 170. For all the food and beer I consume we walk it off on the board walk or at the bay. I'm here now doing this and listening to Dire Straits and the Ojays. Have a good weekend Bro Pizza or Tomato pie is supreme in NY/NJ!
Wait a minute, we've got a Seaside, Oregon. My brother used to live there. They've got a turnaround right next to the Beach that's supposed to be where Lewis and Clark arrived. Really comes alive in the Summer. Great place for Beach Volleyball. When I was a toddler they used to catch Dungeness crab in the surf, make a bon fire out of driftwood and place a giant pot on it, cook crab, and offer it to anyone walking by. That included me and my mother and father.

Beautiful beach. In near by Gearhart, just 3 miles North, you can get razor clams. Kind of a rich enclave at the beach. My parents lived in Gearhart until they passed away. I believe it's got the oldest golf course West of the Mississippi.
 

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