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[Denny Crane]

It's propaganda, further.

I can see from the first few pages that they are using charts made from manipulated data.

So you buy into it. I say that's how the scam grows. Not some vast conspiracy among many scientists, just enough to fool you.

 

[jlprk]

Denny, here is today's Cassini news release. Note how models and studies yield conclusions that were not directly measured on and under Titan's surface. Indirect observation is what science is all about. By your standards, a human you trust (probably Bush himself) would have to taste a billion sample spots before science could conclude that the ocean is salty.
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Scientists analyzing data from NASA’s Cassini mission have firm evidence the ocean inside Saturn's largest moon, Titan, might be as salty as the Earth's Dead Sea.

The new results come from a study of gravity and topography data collected during Cassini's repeated flybys of Titan during the past 10 years. Using the Cassini data, researchers presented a model structure for Titan...

Additional findings support previous indications the moon's icy shell is rigid and in the process of freezing solid. Researchers found that a relatively high density was required for Titan's ocean in order to explain the gravity data. This indicates the ocean is probably an extremely salty brine of water mixed with dissolved salts likely composed of sulfur, sodium and potassium. The density indicated for this brine would give the ocean a salt content roughly equal to the saltiest bodies of water on Earth...

Cassini data also indicate the thickness of Titan's ice crust varies slightly from place to place. The researchers said this can best be explained if the moon's outer shell is stiff, as would be the case if the ocean were slowly crystalizing, and turning to ice. Otherwise, the moon's shape would tend to even itself out over time, like warm candle wax. This freezing process would have important implications for the habitability of Titan's ocean, as it would limit the ability of materials to exchange between the surface and the ocean.

A further consequence of a rigid ice shell, according to the study, is any outgassing of methane into Titan's atmosphere must happen at scattered "hot spots," like the hot spot on Earth that gave rise to the Hawaiian Island chain. Titan's methane does not appear to result from convection or plate tectonics recycling its ice shell...

http://www.nasa.gov/press/2014/july/ocean-on-saturn-moon-could-be-as-salty-as-the-dead-sea/

 

[Denny Crane]

Is there really an ocean on Titan? They're not showing FIRM evidence of anything.

 

[jlprk]

There is firm, repeated evidence in this thread, that you don't believe in the scientific method.

As a representative from 500 years ago, you have much in common with Muslims who are fighting now,

 

[Denny Crane]

When will you start telling the truth?

 

[Denny Crane]

Maybe you might bold the words "additional findings" and "previous indications" in your post. The model isn't a predictor that the ocean exists or it is salty.

 

[Denny Crane]

Outstanding article about the National Ignition Facility (NIF) at livermore labs, built at a cost of $3.5B (cheap!) to produce workable nuclear fusion.

For you accountants out there, nuclear fusion is a safer/cleaner alternative to nuclear fission that we use in power plants today.

http://www.wired.com/2014/02/fusion-power-not-yet/

When NIF was first being built, researchers were confident that it would produce fusion reactions fairly quickly. The point when fusion becomes self-sustaining is known as ignition. The fusing hydrogen atoms at the fuel center send out helium nuclei, which knock into other hydrogen atoms, setting off a cascading chain-reaction of expansion fusion that should produce more energy than the entire experiment consumes. While ignition requires extremely high temperatures and pressures, computer simulations in 2009 predicted that NIF would achieve the energies to generate it by 2012. Of course, reality doesn’t work as well as a digital model, and the deadline passed without achieving ignition.

(of course!)