Disgusting Series Loss

[Disturbed]

When you lose to a team with an inferior roster blowing multiple leads w inferior players on the ice the coach deserves to be fired.

I'd be happier if we lost a hard fought series to the Habs due to Price dominating.

Extremely disappointing series. In the end they got what they deserved.

 

[RangersFan]

Agree 100%. If we lost to Montreal I would feel 100 times better than I feel about losing to a team we were clearly better than. Totally got what they deserved when they couldn't close out 2 OR 5.

 

[Stepupstepan]

Time to let Hank loose. Zero cups in his era. The guy has done a lot for this organization but it's time to let Raanta then that russian kid Shesterkin take over. I dont see the point of keeping 8.5 million goalie at this point.

 

[Messiah717]

Not that it's needed but welcome to being a Rangers fan. Thankfully 1994 happened because outside of that I've watched the same movie since the Islanders dynasty. Kenny Morrow, John Druce, Ron Francis and this crap. It has been going on for decades.

 

[nj cup]

I gotta say I really thought this was the rangers year. Falling into the 7th spot and getting out of the metro. Banged up pens team or a mental weak Washington club waiting for them. No real power houses in the west like the kings or hawks either.

I watched the game tonight and it's always great to score on breakaways but if they didn't score on them it would've been 3-0. Outside of the 3rd there was no pressure or great quality chances.

 

[Stepupstepan]

They should put this team in the bronx or staten island. The players are too distracted with a nightlife in Manhattan especially the young ones.

 

[Ranger71]

I'd like to hear what Hayes thoughts are on his play. He was an absolute joke.

 

[Messiah717]

They should put this team in the bronx or staten island. The players are too distracted with a nightlife in Manhattan especially the young ones.

lol that's Matt Harvey.

 

[Stepupstepan]

It seemed like Hayes gained 20 pounds he lost during the offseason.

 

[RangersFan]

Rangers year for what...to get to the ECF...I agree. They were always going to be a huge underdog against the Pens/Caps, especially if the Caps win game 7. So I don't agree if their year means SC. If their year means ECF...absolutely they should have made the ECF after they beat Montreal.

 

[Messiah717]

Anything can happen in the playoffs. Especially if you get to the final four. I wouldn't of predicted a win over the Pens or Caps but that's why you play the games. This was a wasted opportunity.

 

[nj cup]

Time to let Hank loose. Zero cups in his era. The guy has done a lot for this organization but it's time to let Raanta then that russian kid Shesterkin take over. I dont see the point of keeping 8.5 million goalie at this point.

Ranta will probably be claimed by vegas

 

[nj cup]

Anything can happen in the playoffs. Especially if you get to the final four. I wouldn't of predicted a win over the Pens or Caps but that's why you play the games. This was a wasted opportunity.

That's exactly what I meant. The rangers had their ticket punched to At the least the conference finals falling into the 7th seed. Then anything can happen.

 

[Ranger71]

Duguay was hypothesizing they could maybe leave Stepan unprotected for LV as they do have to get to the cap floor, but 6.5m is probably too much for them. I think Raanta or Fast get taken.
I think they would've gone at least 6 with either team so it's disappointing not to see what might've happened. At least they have a 1st to maybe help in a few years. Been what seems like a decade since having one, even though it's low.

 

[RangersFan]

Yeah, of course anything can happen...no doubt there. But this was not "their year" if that means to win a cup. It wasn't. It was the make the ECF and be a big underdog and say hey anything can happen...no doubt. They lost to a lesser team...that's reality. But this to me wasn't an oh they blew it in "their year". I felt that way more in 2015, even though this specific series lose was a painful as the loss to TB because we were simply better than Ottawa.

 

[RangersFan]

Raanta, Fast, Lindberg or Grabner are the likely guys...one of them. And yeah, doubt Stepan goes (would leave him exposed though), but remember Vegas needs to add some big money guys to get to their salary floor. I would give up picks in a second to get rid of Girardi and/or Stepan to Vegas and not have to use a terrible buyout on Girardi.

I think that is more of a Girardi play though. Stepan will have some value to get a good player back.

 

[Stepupstepan]

that would be a shame if either get taken. Stepan has some value. I am sure he can bring some picks and a nice prospect back.

 

[Ranger71]

Yeah i'm going to be very curious to see what mgmt does and how they react to some of these people being complete playoff duds as well as the DG/Staal situation.

 

[Messiah717]

It may not make everyone feel better at this moment but I'll add some perspective or positives in regards to this team.

JT Miller is only 23 and is coming off his best season. Rough playoffs but I think he's a solid player that will get better.

Zibanejad is only 24 and had to deal with a broken leg screwing up his season. Showed he could perform in the playoffs.

Vesey is another 24 year old who I'm looking forward to seeing next year with a season under his belt. I think he's a solid player who had to get used to a full season and it was good he got a taste of the playoffs.

Skjei is only going to get better. Another young player who will learn from this.

 

[Stepupstepan]

Stepan and Hayes must be replaced if they want to do anything next year. Holden, Girardi, Staal and Klein must be shown the door on d.

 

[Ranger71]

I think they'll stick Klein in the minors. Holden had a good season for what they gave up for him but his playoffs was a struggle. I think he'll be around next year though at his salary. Girardi actually was a pleasant surprise while Staal looked like a camel running through Death Valley in August. I would say he should be the one to go. A buyout isn't great but at least it frees up an extra 4-5m now for cap room we need.

 

[Messiah717]

Buyouts aren't going to happen with the years these guys have left so people need to get off that train. For guys with three or four years left on their contracts you end up with dead cap space for six to eight years. It's one of those things people like to just toss out there without exactly understanding how they currently work. They're not like the previous compliance buyouts.

 

[Stepupstepan]

LOL...then they are doomed with that defense. At least two of those guys will be gone somehow, I hope.

 

[Messiah717]

LOL...then they are doomed with that defense. At least two of those guys will be gone somehow, I hope.

Hopefully they can do something but I just wish more people read up on how buyouts currently work before going with it being a likely solution. The just buy out Staal is becoming a favorite line. If they bought him out before next season the Rangers would be responsible for 2/3 of his remaining contract spread over the next eight years. That's a 1.75 million cap hit every year over that span.

 

[Ranger71]

Klein isn't a big problem with one year as they can even waive him or deal him with a pick or prospect to a bottom feeder. It would be pretty tough to move either Girardi or Staal without giving up a high pick or top prospect so i think they will consider a buyout. Not saying its more than 50/50 but they may be willing to deal with some of the later ramifications to help for the next 2-3.

 

[strudwickisthebest]

Klein must have been hurt because I would have played him over Holden

 

[RangersFan]

Buyouts aren't going to happen with the years these guys have left so people need to get off that train. For guys with three or four years left on their contracts you end up with dead cap space for six to eight years. It's one of those things people like to just toss out there without exactly understanding how they currently work. They're not like the previous compliance buyouts.

Zero chance Staal gets bought out. That would be 8 years of money on the cap...8.

More of a chance Girardi could be, but even that I think is a longshot. I posted his buyout cap situation last week, and it isn't pretty. 6 years of money on the cap. Not really appealing.

I would see if somehow Vegas would take one, with a pick, and we go from there. Remember Vegas needs to reach a salary floor, so they need some bigger money guys. I would absolutely deal a pick with Girardi to get rid of his cap hit. Double so with all the college guys we have signed to make up for a pick, and we do have real good youth upfront.

 

[RangersFan]

It may not make everyone feel better at this moment but I'll add some perspective or positives in regards to this team.

JT Miller is only 23 and is coming off his best season. Rough playoffs but I think he's a solid player that will get better.

Zibanejad is only 24 and had to deal with a broken leg screwing up his season. Showed he could perform in the playoffs.

Vesey is another 24 year old who I'm looking forward to seeing next year with a season under his belt. I think he's a solid player who had to get used to a full season and it was good he got a taste of the playoffs.

Skjei is only going to get better. Another young player who will learn from this.

You have to add Buch as well. Plus a guy like Graves hopefully can make the jump to 3rd pair dman next season.

Like you wrote, no one wants to read this right now, but I think we could reopen that window next season with a few good moves. Gorton couldn't do it all in one summer last offseason, but he did some of it. Now this summer he can do more of it I hope. I trust him. Reshape this team a little more, like you started to do last summer.

 

[kool1]

agree with everything posted in this thread... don't know how you can have any of these guys comeback for another year, coaches too... it was a disgusting effort from top to bottom!