Do we try to trade ROY and rebuild?

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This has to be asked and needs to be discussed. Most recent news on Roy is no change from MRI 6 months ago, no surgery or Microfracture likely, and he'll sit out two more games. Right now his status and how much and how well he can play are up in the air. Should we try to unload him now or later this year for expirings? a TPE? or more? What might we get? Difficult questions, I got no easy answers.
 
I suggested this a week ago. See the thread "Time to rebuild?"

I'm sick and tired of players with bad knees. Trade Roy for the best offer you get and start the rebuild now. Roy will never be the player he was, but there's probably somebody out there willing to take a gamble on him.
 
How many years did Pip play for you guys with sore knees? Granted he wasn't the player he was with the Bulls, but he was also 35 years old.
 
I am not sure you can trade Roy unless the other team foolishly waives the physical. Roy's knees are in horrible shape, and for better or worse, we are stuck with him and his max contract. I think what a lot of people need to keep in mind is that the NBA will likely have a lockout next year, and the CBA will drastically change. That could mean players with existing contracts would be eligable for a non cap hindering buyout because of injury.


That being said I would love to trade Roy to Phoenix so the medical staff there could evaluate him and tell our staff what is wrong with him before they reject the trade
 
It's a scummy move to try to pawn off Roy onto another team when you consider the bone-on-bone condition.
 
Even if his play is permanently diminished (and I don't think it is), you're selling low. It's a stupid move.
 
maxiep said:
Even if his play is permanently diminished (and I don't think it is), you're selling low. It's a stupid move.
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I disagree. This moment may prove to be the highest point of all to trade him, since the more time he has to play and demonstrate to the world that he is a shadow of his former self, the more his value goes down.
 
can we watch roy play a few months before we trade him???
 
maxiep said:
Even if his play is permanently diminished (and I don't think it is), you're selling low. It's a stupid move.
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Roy's value will continue to slide.

The Blazer seems to never make deals since they are paranoid of the selling low mentality. The no risk taking has gotten us this roster of mediocre talent.
 
MIXUM said:
lmao

and nobody is trading for roy right now
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How true.

Roy is untradable. Period.

We will simply have to carry his salary. In retrospect, the team knew he had two very bad knees and they should have offered him a 3 year deal with team options.
 
I would love it if the Bulls could trade for Roy, but I don't think they have the contracts to make a deal work. I think he'll be playing in the NBA for at least 5 more years.
 
No 18 PPG player, even if he shoots 41% FG, is going to sit on the bench for 5 years.

I'd be happy to see him sit out a season and try to come back after resting his knees or at least not playing 35-38 minutes for most of an 82 game season.
 
Mediocre Man said:
I am not sure you can trade Roy unless the other team foolishly waives the physical. Roy's knees are in horrible shape, and for better or worse, we are stuck with him and his max contract. I think what a lot of people need to keep in mind is that the NBA will likely have a lockout next year, and the CBA will drastically change. That could mean players with existing contracts would be eligable for a non cap hindering buyout because of injury.


That being said I would love to trade Roy to Phoenix so the medical staff there could evaluate him and tell our staff what is wrong with him before they reject the trade
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fantastic stuff
 
Fez Hammersticks said:
It's a scummy move to try to pawn off Roy onto another team when you consider the bone-on-bone condition.
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How so? Anything we know, every team in the NBA knows, plus more. It's not scummy to allow another team to trade for Roy, bone-on-bone or not, if the other team is doing it eyes wide open.

Now, if Portland has further information that is even worse, that none of us know and the rest of the league doesn't know, then sure...it would be unethical to trade him without providing that information.
 
maxiep said:
Even if his play is permanently diminished (and I don't think it is), you're selling low. It's a stupid move.
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Agreed; worst case scenario is Steve Smith imho, and he was worth having around.
 
BlazerCaravan said:
Agreed; worst case scenario is Steve Smith imho, and he was worth having around.
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No I don't agree. Steve Smith's game was much different than Roy's. The worst thing that can happen to this team is if Roy turns into what he is now, a guy who plays a few games and then sits out a few games. I don't recall a point in Smith's career where he played for a few games and then had to sit for a few. I also don't recall any part of Steve Smith's careeer where he would just spontanously have to leave the game with knee pain right in the middle of the game, from not even making a major move.
 
hasoos said:
No I don't agree. Steve Smith's game was much different than Roy's. The worst thing that can happen to this team is if Roy turns into what he is now, a guy who plays a few games and then sits out a few games. I don't recall a point in Smith's career where he played for a few games and then had to sit for a few. I also don't recall any part of Steve Smith's careeer where he would just spontanously have to leave the game with knee pain right in the middle of the game, from not even making a major move.
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That's fair. We'll just have to see what his condition is going forward.
 
Who are you going to trade him to? Who is going to bail the Blazers out on that 82 million dollar deal?
 
It could be better than for worse but the Blazers are STUCK with Roy. Learn to love him as he is.
 
BlazerCaravan said:
Agreed; worst case scenario is Steve Smith imho, and he was worth having around.
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Smith and Roy were completely different personalities.

The past couple of seasons, it has become clear that Roy (mistakenly) believes himself to be on the same level as Kobe or LeBron. Now that that is no longer even remotely true, he needs to completely change his attitude and game. Smith was willing to make those kind of adjustments. I wouldn't bet 2 cents Roy will do the same - at least not as long as he is in Portland.
 
No. Teams don't win by rebuilding. They win by retooling. And I think Roy can still be an effective player in this league. He's had some good games for us this season despite the injury. Also- remember that we just had the toughest 11 game stretch of the season Before the game against Memphis. FOUR back to backs and he played heavy minutes. Now he only misses two games between now and next Friday. That's a lot of time to rest without missing a lot of action. The schedule is better from here on out.
 
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THANK YOU SPEED!!!!!

You follow the mavs path. Never try to get bad.... just reload. Look at the pats, steelers in the nfl.
 
KingSpeed said:
No. Teams don't win by rebuilding. They win by retooling. And I think Roy can still be an effective player in this league. He's had some good games for us this season despite the injury.
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They win by a combination of drafting at least one great player and trades.
 
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