Does this count as throwing Nate under the bus?

[Rastapopoulos]

Eggers quotes Felton:

“Look at Jeremy Lin,” Felton said. “Some people’s systems are for players. D’Antoni is one of those coaches where people excel in his offense. He’s a great offensive coach.

 

[e_blazer]

Sounds more like Felton's driving the bus over Nate.

 

[The_Lillard_King]

Well I thought Andre started gelling with the tam whne he sort of called Nate out on his system . . . maybe same effect here?

 

[e_blazer]

What system works for a PG who is missing 75% of the shots he takes and turning the ball over like a blind man?

 

[BoBoBREWSKI]

I've been wondering more and more lately if Nate knows what his system is.

 

[BoBoBREWSKI]

What system works for a PG who is missing 75% of the shots he takes and turning the ball over like a blind man?

 

[Blazinaway]

I've been wondering more and more lately if Nate knows what his system is.

Nate's "system" consists of scrapping and ya gotta make shots.

 

[Nikolokolus]

Well I thought Andre started gelling with the tam whne he sort of called Nate out on his system . . . maybe same effect here?

You really want to know the dirty little secret of why Miller was moved and never embraced by Nate? I'm not sure when it happened and it wasn't 100% this way 100% of the time, but at some point he pretty much said "fuck it" and started running the team his way (with just enough concessions to Nate to keep things on an even plane).

Now do I blame Nate for Felton's horrendous play? No not really -- he showed up fat and out of shape-- but I do think there's a lot of friction between he and Nate stylistically and as long as Nate is here Felton is likely to continue to play with a low level of confidence and what can only be called "confusion."

 

[Ed O]

You really want to know the dirty little secret of why Miller was moved and never embraced by Nate? I'm not sure when it happened and it wasn't 100% this way 100% of the time, but at some point he pretty much said "fuck it" and started running the team his way (with just enough concessions to Nate to keep things on an even plane).

Now do I blame Nate for Felton's horrendous play? No not really -- he showed up fat and out of shape-- but I do think there's a lot of friction between he and Nate stylistically and as long as Nate is here Felton is likely to continue to play with a low level of confidence and what can only be called "confusion."

I agree with this. I will add that Felton managed to be pretty sub-average for other coaches, too, even if he hasn't been THIS bad before.

Ed O.

 

[Mediocre Man]

Truer words, Raymond, truer words.

 

[BrianFromWA]

What system works for a PG who is missing 75% of the shots he takes and turning the ball over like a blind man?

D'Antoni's almost made him an all-star last year. But I get what you're saying.

 

[Charcoal Filtered]

I think his statement is what it is. D'antoni has a system that is easier for a PG to thrive compared to Nates.I think the players should be more offended at Nate saying the loss last night was due to the team having little pride. That line would work if the rotation was young/immater but not with veterans.

 

[Minstrel]

But Felton went on to say that he's the point guard, so he's got McMillan's back. So all is well!

 

[SlyPokerDog]

But Felton went on to say that he's the point guard, so he's got McMillan's back. So all is well!

If he handles Nate's back as well as he does the ball Nate should look into increasing his life insurance.

 

[Ed O]

But Felton went on to say that he's the point guard, so he's got McMillan's back. So all is well!

Did he say, "No offense, but..." at the beginning of the statement? That would really ensure no feelings were hurt!

Ed O.

 

[PapaG]

I don't think Nate cares if he gets fired at this point. He got his extension through next year, and it's tough to tell what agenda anybody in the organization is following at this point.

 

[RoyToy]

So Nate McMillan is responsible for Felton gassing out after 5 minutes, bad defense and some unbelievably bad turnovers while pretty much showing no bball IQ

OK

 

[PapaG]

Did he say, "No offense, but..." at the beginning of the statement? That would really ensure no feelings were hurt!

Ed O.

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[MARIS61]

I think his statement is what it is. D'antoni has a system that is easier for a PG to thrive compared to Nates.I think the players should be more offended at Nate saying the loss last night was due to the team having little pride. That line would work if the rotation was young/immater but not with veterans.

D'antoni has a system that allows a PG to get good personal stats without having to stay in shape or work very hard on defense. Not surprising a lazy chub like Felton would be happier there.

Judging from last night's game, I'd say Nate's line worked rather well with the vets.

 

[UKRAINEFAN]

If he has some ideas (that he got while playing for D'antoni), then he should sit down with nate and talk about it. If he does that and Nate doesn't want to cooperate, then he can complain or make comparisons between coaches.

 

[jlprk]

This is the kind of thread that will become exaggerated in people's memories as time goes on. Years from now, people will say that Felton whined and bitched, remember that article that I can't find? This is how the Sheed incident of playfully throwing a ball toward Boom Boom got engraved into the woodwork of his enemies' memories as a horribly painful moment for Boom Boom. Etc.

Before anyone decides Felton was being rebellious, read page 2 of the article and you'll see that he was not.

 

[Boob-No-More]

This is how the Sheed incident of playfully throwing a ball toward Boom Boom got engraved into the woodwork of his enemies' memories as a horribly painful moment for Boom Boom. Etc.

Yeah, that Sheed what a kidder. I still remember the way he playfully threw a towell in Sabonis' face on national TV. What a nut! Oh yeah, there was also that time he playfully set the NBA record for technicals - and then playfully broke his own record the following season! I still laugh myself silly about that one. And then there was that time he got suspended for 7 games for playfully threatening a ref. Ah, good times!!!

BNM

 

[BBert]

That Tech record was a joke though. The refs were T-ing him up for nothing at the beginning of games to send a message, and they clearly were making a game of it. It was like a running gun battle. The T that led to the loading dock incident was pure bullshit by a crooked ref. Yes, it hurt our team, and yes Wallace was a paranoid head case. Just because he was paranoid, that didn't mean they weren't out to get him. Sucked at the time, that's for sure.

Ah, memories.

 

[oldguy]

I think there may have been a reason that the refs were 'out to get him'. He was a complete idiot nearly every time they called a foul on him. All he had to do was shut his face, and the problem would have gone away.

Go Blazers

 

[Boob-No-More]

That Tech record was a joke though. The refs were T-ing him up for nothing at the beginning of games to send a message, and they clearly were making a game of it. It was like a running gun battle. The T that led to the loading dock incident was pure bullshit by a crooked ref. Yes, it hurt our team, and yes Wallace was a paranoid head case. Just because he was paranoid, that didn't mean they weren't out to get him. Sucked at the time, that's for sure.

Ah, memories.

He was an immature ass that got what he deserved. He "earned" his reputation and it came back to bite him in the ass. He was constantly hurting his team with all the technicals, ejections and suspensions. He was the most talented player on the roster, but refused to take a leadership role. Which is understandable as you can't lead your team anywhere when you've been ejected or suspended.

The guy had TONS of talent, but was an out-of-control headcase on the court. He could have been SO much better, if he could have controlled his temper, kept his mouth shut and just played the game with the same intensity he directed at the refs.

BNM

 

[jlprk]

Yeah, that Sheed what a kidder. I still remember the way he playfully threw a towell in Sabonis' face on national TV. What a nut! Oh yeah, there was also that time he playfully set the NBA record for technicals - and then playfully broke his own record the following season! I still laugh myself silly about that one. And then there was that time he got suspended for 7 games for playfully threatening a ref. Ah, good times!!!

None of this changes the fact that Canzano lied that Sheed hurt Boom Boom by playfully throwing the ball the full court at him. Guys like you erupted at the time because you hated Sheed, and nowadays the falsely-embellished incident is recounted routinely. I was just thinking that similarly, false history may be remembered about how Felton is now supposedly rebelling against McMillan unless I inserted a post.

 

[Blazinaway]

This is the kind of thread that will become exaggerated in people's memories as time goes on. Years from now, people will say that Felton whined and bitched, remember that article that I can't find? This is how the Sheed incident of playfully throwing a ball toward Boom Boom got engraved into the woodwork of his enemies' memories as a horribly painful moment for Boom Boom. Etc.

Before anyone decides Felton was being rebellious, read page 2 of the article and you'll see that he was not.

did last night's Felton comments on "Nate's trust" and his 0 pts, 5 TO's and 2 assists suggest the bus maybe should have termed been a tank?

 

[Nikolokolus]

None of this changes the fact that Canzano lied that Sheed hurt Boom Boom by playfully throwing the ball the full court at him. Guys like you erupted at the time because you hated Sheed, and nowadays the falsely-embellished incident is recounted routinely. I was just thinking that similarly, false history may be remembered about how Felton is now supposedly rebelling against McMillan unless I inserted a post.

You make me laugh. Thanks.

 

[jlprk]

Old Chinese war saying: To defeat PapaG, one must chew on won ton one thousand years.

You have to take the long view about history-writing.

 

[Boob-No-More]

None of this changes the fact that Canzano lied that Sheed hurt Boom Boom by playfully throwing the ball the full court at him. Guys like you erupted at the time because you hated Sheed, and nowadays the falsely-embellished incident is recounted routinely. I was just thinking that similarly, false history may be remembered about how Felton is now supposedly rebelling against McMillan unless I inserted a post.

Umm no, "guys like me" did not erupt about Sheed beaning Boom Boom. In fact, I don't remember ever posting anything about that incident (until now). Yes, it's further evidence about Sheed's immaturity. I also didn't make a big deal about him and Damon getting caught with pot in the yellow Hummer rolling down I-5. Again stupid and immature, but no big deal.

What I did, and do, make a big deal about is how Sheed's on-court behavior and uncontrollable temper hurt his team and cost them wins. He literally gave away hundreds of points due to technicals over the course of his career. And, he was ejected and suspened from dozens of games. That hurts his team and he deserves to be called on it. Do you disagree? Or, do you think it's acceptable to be in the lockerroom, or in street clothes when your team needs you on the court? Do you think it's acceptable to humilate a Hall of Fame teammate and destroy team chemistry on national TV? If you do, we're just going to have to agree to disagree, because I certainly don't think those things are acceptable for a PROFESSIONAL athlete.

So, please stop trying to rewrite history by making false claims about "guys like me".

BNM