Drug, Inc.

[BLAZER PROPHET]

Seems like a good show. On National Geographic tonight at 9.

 

[3RA1N1AC]

if its about the pharmaceutical companies pushing unnecessary and harmful drugs on children and the impressionable then im sure its just some leftist drivel paid for by the liberal elite who want to make it mandatory for grade school kids to drop acid and smoke bongs during study hall

 

[Haakzilla]

About the Show

Drugs: A multi-billion-dollar industry that fuels crime and violence like no other substance on the planet. Turning cartel leaders into billionaires, the illegal drug industry also provides vital income to hundreds of thousands of poor workers across the globe. While some users sacrifice their lives to an addiction they can't escape, others find drugs to be their only saving grace from physical or emotional pain almost impossible to overcome. Where should the lines be drawn in this lucrative industry?

 

[3RA1N1AC]

oh its about the demon weed, yeah that shit is dangerous

 

[BLAZER PROPHET]

I watched some old episodes today and it was pretty interesting. Makes me wonder why anyone would want to legalize drugs.

 

[HailBlazers]

I watched some old episodes today and it was pretty interesting. Makes me wonder why anyone would want to legalize drugs.

Because the war on drugs is killing thousands more people (see Mexico) than the drugs would themselves if they were legalized and administered by the govt.

 

[Haakzilla]

Because the war on drugs is killing thousands more people (see Mexico) than the drugs would themselves if they were legalized and administered by the govt.

...and that's just the tip of the iceberg right there

 

[maxiep]

There's a marijuana legalization ballot measure here in Colorado, and they can't even call it "legalization". Instead they call it marijuana "regulation". If people can't be honest about what their ballot measure is, it speaks volumes about what they believe voters think about it.

 

[barfo]

Voted tonight, voted for the OR legalization measure. It won't pass, and probably would be killed by the courts if it did, but I think supporting it is a step in the right direction.

barfo

 

[jlprk]

Washington State voters will definitely legalize marijuana in 2 weeks.

http://www.mcclatchydc.com/2012/10/14/171463/washingtons-marijuana-legalization.html

 

[BLAZER PROPHET]

I think the OR & WA ballot measures will pass as well.

 

[3RA1N1AC]

so everyone wants weed legalized because they realize its harmless and a huge drain on a government budgets

yet its not happening, i wonder why?

 

[ehizzy3]

old people

 

[Haakzilla]

so everyone wants weed legalized because they realize its harmless and a huge drain on a government budgets

yet its not happening, i wonder why?

...there is a lot of BIG money behind the prohibition of the devil's weed, all about massive profits. Same reason why other huge lobbyists are able to guide policies to their most profitable advantages.

--> The Emperor Wears No Clothes [quality reading]

 

[3RA1N1AC]

...there is a lot of BIG money behind the prohibition of the devil's weed, all about massive profits. Same reason why other huge lobbyists are able to guide policies to their most profitable advantages.

--> The Emperor Wears No Clothes [quality reading]

read that in the 90s, and that was my point

 

[donkiez]

There is no reason why any drug should be illegal. In a free country you should be able to harm your body how you see fit so long as it doesnt hurt someone else. The act of doing a drug shouldnt be illegal, the illegal acts of maintaining an addiction should and are illegal. Drug war money would be much better spent on rehab and education. Its a social problem not a legal one.

 

[BLAZER PROPHET]

There is no reason why any drug should be illegal. In a free country you should be able to harm your body how you see fit so long as it doesnt hurt someone else. The act of doing a drug shouldnt be illegal, the illegal acts of maintaining an addiction should and are illegal. Drug war money would be much better spent on rehab and education. Its a social problem not a legal one.

And therein lies the main problem. It does hurt others.

 

[BLAZER PROPHET]

I was recently watching a show on Discovery and they had guy from one of the drug cartels in Mexico and he was saying that if the USA legalizes weed then it would cut into their operations by the billions of dollars. And if so, they would bring their wars here to protect their turf. Apparently, their weed money subsidizes cocaine and herion operations. Now, who knows if he was telling the truth or smoking something, but full decrimilization of marijuana and it's impact on mob, gang and cartel influence is an interesting thought.

 

[3RA1N1AC]

And therein lies the main problem. It does hurt others.

aww so does alcohol and world of warcraft

 

[BLAZER PROPHET]

aww so does alcohol and world of warcraft

4 minutes to respond. What kept you?

 

[BLAZER PROPHET]

aww so does alcohol and world of warcraft

And your point is? That because we already have things that people use to hurt other innocent people that we must add more? Got that one.

 

[BrianFromWA]

Someone more knowledgeable help me out: let's say it gets legalized nationwide. I've only seen the "legit" shops and dealers in Grass Valley and in the Seattle area, and I haven't been impressed with their operations or controls (and I think a bunch got shut down). Is there a "Weed Wal-Mart" or "Marijuana Anheuser Busch" waiting to start working the market, collecting all this revenue and paying taxes on time?

 

[3RA1N1AC]

And your point is? That because we already have things that people use to hurt other innocent people that we must add more? Got that one.

whats your point? that there shouldnt be any new video games? got it

 

[BLAZER PROPHET]

Someone more knowledgeable help me out: let's say it gets legalized nationwide. I've only seen the "legit" shops and dealers in Grass Valley and in the Seattle area, and I haven't been impressed with their operations or controls (and I think a bunch got shut down). Is there a "Weed Wal-Mart" or "Marijuana Anheuser Busch" waiting to start working the market, collecting all this revenue and paying taxes on time?

I would suppose if it is fully legalized that stores would sell it like they do booze. It may fall under state liquor control authorities and sold accordingly...

Wholesale growers will sprout up (sorry, couldn't resist) and then many will become unionized... and then eventually we'd buy it from China or Mexico where salve labor rules the day.

 

[BLAZER PROPHET]

whats your point? that there shouldnt be any new video games? got it

Nice evasion. HAHA!

 

[3RA1N1AC]

do we really need the government to hold our hands? are you also in favor of limiting the size of soft drinks? diabetes kills alot more people than weed ever has

 

[BLAZER PROPHET]

do we really need the government to hold our hands?

Of course not.

are you also in favor of limiting the size of soft drinks?

I'm well on record at S2 as being against this- as you probably already know.

diabetes kills alot more people than weed ever has

I wonder if this is true. So many people start with weed and go on to stronger drugs and kill, steal, die... So I looked it up and although the figures are different, a fair average is this:

Death from diabeties (and it's complications)- USA 200,000, Worldwide 4 million

Death from drug overdose- USA 435,000, Worldwide 2.5 million

 

[3RA1N1AC]

Death from diabeties (and it's complications)- USA 200,000, Worldwide 4 million

Death from drug overdose- USA 435,000, Worldwide 2.5 million

weed overdose is impossible, as in not possible so its 4 million to zero

 

[3RA1N1AC]

wait, most people start smoking cigarettes and drinking alcohol before weed, so lets attribute all those deaths there instead, right?

seems logical

 

[3RA1N1AC]

people start smoking cigarettes, and how did you put it? ahh go on to stronger drugs and kill, steal, die