OT Even the AP is fake news

[bodyman5000 and 1]

How many people read this headline and think that some white house aide is now getting millions of dollars for something he or she is doing for Fox right now?

Does no-one see the problem here?

https://www.yahoo.com/news/white-house-deputy-chief-receiving-millions-fox-203310545--politics.html

 

[bodyman5000 and 1]

This was what I saw on yahoo that takes you to this story

 

[donkiez]

Seems like real news with a semi sensationalistic headline.

Fox news is the propoganda division of the Trump administration though. This is just another story connecting the two.

 

[bodyman5000 and 1]

Seems like real news with a semi sensationalistic headline.

Fox news is the propoganda division of the Trump administration though. This is just another story connecting the two.

Misleading at best. Guy leaves fox in 2017 and joins Trump in 2018.

Is there an AP story on CNN being the resistance?

 

[donkiez]

He's is getting paid a total of $15 million for

Shine joined the Trump administration earlier this year. He resigned his position as co-president of Fox News amid questions over his handling of sexual harassment and discrimination allegations that led to the departures of CEO Roger Ailes and Fox News personality Bill O'Reilly

Seems like a real quality individual that probably has not ties or connections in fox news still?

 

[lawai'a]

Misleading at best. Guy leaves fox in 2017 and joins Trump in 2018.

Is there an AP story on CNN being the resistance?

the story is that a trump aid has been receiving and will continue to receive monies totaling $7 million dollars since joining the white house staff through may of next year. seems to be a fact that isn't being reputed. as chief of staff for white house communications, his income sources must be disclosed and a news agency is reporting it. don't see the fake news at all.
repudiated edit

 

[MARIS61]

Brainwashing for the intellectually lazy.

 

[bodyman5000 and 1]

the story is that a trump aid has been receiving and will continue to receive monies totaling $7 million dollars since joining the white house staff through may of next year. seems to be a fact that isn't being reputed. as chief of staff for white house communications, his income sources must be disclosed and a news agency is reporting it. don't see the fake news at all.
repudiated edit

Yes and the title makes it seem to anyone that he's getting the money for something he's doing for Trump. Hence the term "fake news"

 

[donkiez]

Yes and the title makes it seem to anyone that he's getting the money for something he's doing for Trump. Hence the term "fake news"

I think that's your interpretation of the title and your reading a lot into it yourself. I don't find anything about the title or the article being fake news.

How would you word the title better?

 

[bodyman5000 and 1]

I think that's your interpretation of the title and your reading a lot into it yourself. I don't find anything about the title or the article being fake news.

How would you word the title better?

Ex fox news millionaire is white house aide

 

[SlyPokerDog]

Considering that Fox News publicly came out in support of Jim Acosta and his loss of press credentials there does not appear to be a conflict of interest with Fox News and their former employee.

 

[donkiez]

Ex fox news millionaire is white house aide

How about, "Ex fox news millionaire and co-president is white house aide, despite resigning from fox news in scandal. Still receives severance payments from former employer."?

Personally I don't think the story here is that he is getting severance pay by Fox News still, I think its that Trump continues to hire the worst and most nefarious people for every position possible. In this case its a high level fox news executive who most likely still has connections with his old company and has experience in dealing with scandals, which is why Trump probably hired him. Some of that is speculation though, but given Trumps track record its not off base speculation. Either way its not fake news and its not a big story to get all upset over the media with, imo.

 

[lawai'a]

most "fake news" allegations are in connection with sourced articles that are unverifiable to most individuals.
https://www.cnbc.com/2018/11/23/tru...15-million-in-bonuses-severance-from-fox.html
link to cnbc article with copies of dis closer documents.
AP just piggybacking on this the original.

 

[lawai'a]

Yes and the title makes it seem to anyone that he's getting the money for something he's doing for Trump. Hence the term "fake news"

i reread it, but only saw the possible implication of whether or not it is ethical for the chief white house communications officer to be receiving payments from any news network, severance or otherwise.

 

[barfo]

How many people read this headline and think that some white house aide is now getting millions of dollars for something he or she is doing for Fox right now?

Does no-one see the problem here?

https://www.yahoo.com/news/white-house-deputy-chief-receiving-millions-fox-203310545--politics.html

I don't know - I don't get that impression from the headline.

barfo

 

[bodyman5000 and 1]

You guys didn't catch the "often fawning" part of what is supposed to be a "news" article?

 

[barfo]

You guys didn't catch the "often fawning" part of what is supposed to be a "news" article?

You asked specifically about the headline, so we replied about the headline.

Now you want to know about the word choice "often fawning" in the article. I'd say that description is completely factual. Would you like to provide an argument to the contrary?

barfo

 

[bodyman5000 and 1]

You asked specifically about the headline, so we replied about the headline.

Now you want to know about the word choice "often fawning" in the article. I'd say that description is completely factual. Would you like to provide an argument to the contrary?

barfo

Would you like to prove it with ONE news story on Fox. Not Hannity

 

[lawai'a]

You guys didn't catch the "often fawning" part of what is supposed to be a "news" article?

fawning
adjective

fawn·ing | \ˈfȯ-niŋ,

ˈfä-\
Definition of fawning
: seeking or used to seek approval or favor by means of flattery … they are excellent emblems of fawning yet fickle fandom …— Thomas Boswell He's sitting in a shaded pavillion, surrounded by a dozen fawning politicians …— Barbara Crossette I was astonished that Frost could've read the poem as anything but an act of fawning servility.— Tobias Wolff
from websters, and the context was about the cable news channel, not the news program, so yes, there coverage on their talk shows are often "fawning" for the presidents approval and attention.

 

[lawai'a]

Would you like to prove it with ONE news story on Fox. Not Hannity

https://newrepublic.com/minutes/150429/fox-news-tired-trump-cheering

 

[donkiez]

You guys didn't catch the "often fawning" part of what is supposed to be a "news" article?

perhaps fawning was not the best word to use, but at this point arnt you just arguing semantics? Fox has often given Trump coverage very favorable views, its pretty widely known to do so and could be described in any number of ways.

 

[Strenuus]

Brainwashing for the intellectually lazy.

How dare you talk about Fox news like that!

 

[barfo]

Would you like to prove it with ONE news story on Fox. Not Hannity

Wasn't Hannity and so on part of what Bill Shine got paid for at Fox? Why should Hannity be excluded?

barfo

 

[bodyman5000 and 1]

Wasn't Hannity and so on part of what Bill Shine got paid for at Fox? Why should Hannity be excluded?

barfo

Should Saturday Night Live count towards NBC's "coverage"?

 

[barfo]

Should Saturday Night Live count towards NBC's "coverage"?

Depends on what you mean by coverage. It is a show that runs on NBC, so NBC is responsible for it.

Here's what the article you wanted us to look at said re: fawning coverage:

Trump and Fox News have had a symbiotic relationship since Trump first announced his candidacy, with the cable news channel providing often fawning coverage of the president, and the president appearing frequently on Fox shows, including his favorites "Fox & Friends" and "Hannity."

Not sure what your objection is. I think Hannity and Fox & Friends (and Judge Jeanine and Tucker Carlson and god knows how many more shows) run rather frequently on that channel, and they are certainly fawning.

barfo

 

[bodyman5000 and 1]

Depends on what you mean by coverage. It is a show that runs on NBC, so NBC is responsible for it.

Here's what the article you wanted us to look at said re: fawning coverage:



Not sure what your objection is. I think Hannity and Fox & Friends (and Judge Jeanine and Tucker Carlson and god knows how many more shows) run rather frequently on that channel, and they are certainly fawning.

barfo

So that's not news. Everyone does know that don't they?

I don't watch all of Tucker Carlson by any stretch so please show me a clip of him fawning all over Trump.

 

[barfo]

So that's not news. Everyone does know that don't they?

I don't watch all of Tucker Carlson by any stretch so please show me a clip of him fawning all over Trump.

So I think your objection is that the Fox channel calls itself News, even though 99% of what it shows isn't actually news but mere propaganda.
That's my objection to it also. But it's not our fault it's that way.

What the author of that article wrote is correct.

I'm not digging up any Tucker clips for you, you can do that yourself if you are actually interested.

barfo

 

[bodyman5000 and 1]

So I think your objection is that the Fox channel calls itself News, even though 99% of what it shows isn't actually news but mere propaganda.
That's my objection to it also. But it's not our fault it's that way.

What the author of that article wrote is correct.

I'm not digging up any Tucker clips for you, you can do that yourself if you are actually interested.

barfo

99 percent? What's CNN's percentage?

 

[barfo]

99 percent? What's CNN's percentage?

99% wasn't intended to be taken literally. I don't know what the exact percentage is, I'd have to watch a lot more Fox to find out for sure.
I don't know what CNN's percentage is either, I'd have to watch a lot more CNN to find out.

I'm not sure what CNN has to do with Bill Shine's severance payments?

barfo

 

[bodyman5000 and 1]

99% wasn't intended to be taken literally. I don't know what the exact percentage is, I'd have to watch a lot more Fox to find out for sure.
I don't know what CNN's percentage is either, I'd have to watch a lot more CNN to find out.

I'm not sure what CNN has to do with Bill Shine's severance payments?

barfo

More fake news. Maybe it is just yahoo.

Now Dershowitz is an "ally" of Trump. Not in the article but who reads that shitm