Even Though I'm A Christian.....

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...I'm still incredulous of many of the televangelists out there. I hate to say it, but there are a lot of loose cannons and "me first" charlatans. It's no wonder many don't trust the whole "Christianity" concept.

Shoot, even the Scriptures relate in Matthew Chapter 7 (The Message Translation):

1-5 “Don’t pick on people, jump on their failures, criticize their faults— unless, of course, you want the same treatment. That critical spirit has a way of boomeranging. It’s easy to see a smudge on your neighbor’s face and be oblivious to the ugly sneer on your own. Do you have the nerve to say, ‘Let me wash your face for you,’ when your own face is distorted by contempt? It’s this whole traveling road-show mentality all over again, playing a holier-than-thou part instead of just living your part. Wipe that ugly sneer off your own face, and you might be fit to offer a washcloth to your neighbor.

6 “Don’t be flip with the sacred. Banter and silliness give no honor to God. Don’t reduce holy mysteries to slogans. In trying to be relevant, you’re only being cute and inviting sacrilege.

7-11 “Don’t bargain with God. Be direct. Ask for what you need. This isn’t a cat-and-mouse, hide-and-seek game we’re in. If your child asks for bread, do you trick him with sawdust? If he asks for fish, do you scare him with a live snake on his plate? As bad as you are, you wouldn’t think of such a thing. You’re at least decent to your own children. So don’t you think the God who conceived you in love will be even better?

12 “Here is a simple, rule-of-thumb guide for behavior: Ask yourself what you want people to do for you, then grab the initiative and do it for them. Add up God’s Law and Prophets and this is what you get.13-14 “Don’t look for shortcuts to God. The market is flooded with surefire, easygoing formulas for a successful life that can be practiced in your spare time. Don’t fall for that stuff, even though crowds of people do. The way to life—to God!—is vigorous and requires total attention.

15-20 “Be wary of false preachers who smile a lot, dripping with practiced sincerity. Chances are they are out to rip you off some way or other. Don’t be impressed with charisma; look for character. Who preachers are is the main thing, not what they say. A genuine leader will never exploit your emotions or your pocketbook. These diseased trees with their bad apples are going to be chopped down and burned.
 
LMA is always retweeting that Joel Osteen, he is so fake!
 
The Pope and Catholic Church are the biggest charlatans in the game.
 
Inciteful analysis.

(and, yes, it was an intentional play on so-called words)

By "his kind" I didn't mean Christians, I was envisioning Evangelical Christians who hate ***s.
 
So long as there are people they will try to gain money immorally and way they can and through any medium- religion, politics, legal system.... It's always been that way and always will.
 
I am not a Christian but I do know the words attributed to Jesus where he cursed and condemned those who did not feed the hungry, clothe the naked, shelter the homeless, visit the sick and prisoners, etc. Funny, nothing about gays getting married or abortion or birth control. And yet, sorry ABM, but this is the reality, when I hear someone self-identify as CHRISTIAN (as opposed to "I'm Catholic" or "I'm Methodist" or what have you) and talk about "Christian values" my immediate thought isn't soup kitchens, it's gay bashing and forced vaginal probes and "legitimate rape".

Then there was "sell all that thou hast and give to the poor" - how does one justify millionaire preachers?
 
I am not a Christian but I do know the words attributed to Jesus where he cursed and condemned those who did not feed the hungry, clothe the naked, shelter the homeless, visit the sick and prisoners, etc. Funny, nothing about gays getting married or abortion or birth control. And yet, sorry ABM, but this is the reality, when I hear someone self-identify as CHRISTIAN (as opposed to "I'm Catholic" or "I'm Methodist" or what have you) and talk about "Christian values" my immediate thought isn't soup kitchens, it's gay bashing and forced vaginal probes and "legitimate rape".

Then there was "sell all that thou hast and give to the poor" - how does one justify millionaire preachers?

There are many great stories about Jesus showing this grace. One was when a mob was ready to stone a prostitute. Jesus walked in front of them and said "the man without sin cast the first stone".

That scripture has etched deep into my morality. I see it at one of my life verses. There is no man or woman that has any right to judge on this planet. Only God has that right and his judgment is all can receive God.

It's sad that so many Christians will turn their back on people because their lifestyle. I left a church years ago because they kicked an entire family out because their son was gay. That's not Christian, IMO.
 
There are many great stories about Jesus showing this grace. One was when a mob was ready to stone a prostitute. Jesus walked in front of them and said "the man without sin cast the first stone".

That scripture has etched deep into my morality. I see it at one of my life verses. There is no man or woman that has any right to judge on this planet. Only God has that right and his judgment is all can receive God.

It's sad that so many Christians will turn their back on people because their lifestyle. I left a church years ago because they kicked an entire family out because their son was gay. That's not Christian, IMO.

Have you followed much about the new Pope? He is actually a refreshing champion of the poor.
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and instead of taking his private popemobile, he rode out with the cardinals.
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Have you followed much about the new Pope? He is actually a refreshing champion of the poor.
Pope+no+throne.jpg


and instead of taking his private popemobile, he rode out with the cardinals.
Pope+Francis+I+on+a+bus+with+his+Cardinals.jpg

No I haven't and that's really refreshing! So many years the Catholic Church have abused their power to oppress impoverished people.

Now let's see if the Catholic Church will open their artifacts for the public to study.
 
Good on you mags. My sister once joined an Orthodox Jewish congregation, she left when they ostracized a straight couple who were cohabiting unmarried. She would have been OK with disagreeing with the other congregants if they were consistent, but she knew that single guys in the congregation were constantly hitting on the single women while condemning this couple for their relationship.

As to the new pope, yes, he is rejecting extravagance. But in Argentina his concern for the poor explicitly opposed actual social changes to benefit poor and working people, instead he said they should seek spiritual riches or some such (but only if they were straight). To me it's just same meal, different sauce, defending the privileged by saying the unprivileged should pray and not change the world.
 
in my mind, god will punish false prophets above all others

his one pet peeve, imo

in the words of jesus

“I promise you that any of the sinful things you say or do can be forgiven, no matter how terrible those things are. But if you speak against the Holy Spirit, you can never be forgiven. That sin will be held against you forever.” — Mark 3:28-29 (CEV)

i have always interpreted the meaning of this as bearing false witness, saying you are speaking for the lord, when in fact you are a shitbird
 
and yeah "christians" that are selfish, greedy, judgemental, etc dont like to be reminded of this fact, thats why they tend to hang out with others like themselves
 
and yeah "christians" that are selfish, greedy, judgemental, etc dont like to be reminded of this fact, thats why they tend to hang out with others like themselves

Brainiac 15:24-25
 
Atheism kill count far exceeds that by a mile. Soviet Union and Republic of China has been responsible for more than 20 million murders in the name of a union without God.

the count is "in the bible"

so no
 
Just stating the facts. Figured it would qualify; since the poster was using the figure to talk shit about Christians.

I'm guessing if you did it by percentage of the overall population, that wouldn't be the case.
 
Oh so that matters?

I would think so. I suppose it depends on what you want to say about it.
I can say there's more whites in prison than blacks, so whites commit more crimes. Which is technically true. On a whole, more. But a higher percentage of the black population is in prison, which would then seem to say if the percentages were equal, that initial number would be untrue. That's obviously a generic example ignoring any change in society, whatever.
But if there's 5 million people in the world, and christians went around and wiped out half of them, I'd view that as a far worse atrocity than wiping out 20 million with a population of a couple billion.
 

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