Everybody loves Ed Davis, the Nets big man who might be the NBA's best teammate

[oldmangrouch]

How would we develop Collins though?

Same way we develop him without Davis - a change in the coaching staff. It is obvious to everybody that the kid is struggling, and Stotts and company have apparently done nada to address it.

 

[Jade Falcon]

It's more fun for me if there is major roster change every year. But I want to get players for players. I want a GM with enough talent to trade, not just give away our best players. Any other GM would have anticipated upcoming tax/cap-necessary roster changes, and made appropriate trades months before he was inflexibly forced...and not booted out Davis involuntarily, or paid a team to take Vonleh.

As I have often said, Olshey wakes up only when forced by economics into an emergency move. Our new cheapskate owner will demand that his GM be more economical and less charitable to the rest of the league. Olshey lazily abused the last 6 years of his Paul Allen advantage.

The strategy of his 5-year plan has changed every year of its 6-year existence. Remember when his goal was to accumulate pieces, for future consolidation trades? No such trade ever happened. Instead, he gives away valuable pieces every year...in Davis' case, to make minutes for the unready Collins, who badly needed another year or two alongside Davis, to learn how not to foul. Olshey thinks that Collins a great shooter. From the 3, Collins is .321. Vonleh is .377.

This. Davis was Collin's mentor, and a great one at that. I actually thought Zach was doing better under Ed's tutelage than he is now. Since we don't have a big man coach, then he's basically got nobody.....except Nurk. And not only are Nurk and Collin's games completely different, but I get the feeling Nurk isn't "mentor" material. That, and he just doesn't have the knowledge that Davis has picked up from 10 years in the league.

 

[jlprk]

I haven't posted this for awhile:

Some say that financial reasons backed poor Olshey into a corner, forcing him to give away players in a panic, instead of trading them. I answer, who held a gun to his head in the corner and caused the situation? That guy should be fired!

The point is that if he had the ability to anticipate, Olshey wouldn't have annual financial emergencies.

And the answer to that is, he DOES know what's coming up in the next summer. He does nothing about it not due to lack of seeing the future, but due to lack of any talent to trade. Bring back Bob!

 

[Jon]

Lets start a petition to sign him this offseason.

 

[Jade Falcon]

Sorry for the off-topic question......I saw a comment on a Mavericks forum that said this:

Harrison Barnes + Wes + Smith Jr.
for
McCollum + Evan Turner ?

Would you do it?

 

[hoopsjock]

Sorry for the off-topic question......I saw a comment on a Mavericks forum that said this:



Would you do it?

Heck yeah I'd do that! Wes is expiring. Barnes has a big number for next year but it's still less than CJ and has one less year. I'm not a fan of Dennis Smith Jr but we could definitely trade him somewhere else (Suns maybe for Mikal Bridges?)

Honestly, I don't think we can do much better than that for CJ and we get rid of Turner too, sign me up.

 

[hoopsjock]

Sorry for the off-topic question......I saw a comment on a Mavericks forum that said this:



Would you do it?

@Jade Falcon You should post that in this thread that Bones set up for when you see trade ideas in other team's forums:

http://www.sportstwo.com/threads/blazer-trade-ideas-from-other-teams-forums.330282/

 

[Jade Falcon]

@Jade Falcon You should post that in this thread that Bones set up for when you see trade ideas in other team's forums:

http://www.sportstwo.com/threads/blazer-trade-ideas-from-other-teams-forums.330282/

Ah, thank you for that.

 

[hoopsjock]

Ah, thank you for that.

I love seeing trades from other fan bases because it shows how much non-biased people value our players and under/over value theirs.

 

[Jade Falcon]

I love seeing trades from other fan bases because it shows how much non-biased people value our players and under/over value theirs.

Agreed.

 

[tykendo]

Swanigan and Curry for Ed?

Stauskas instead of Curry and i'm all in.

 

[UKRAINEFAN]

I don't think it's realistic to think he will ever be back in Portland:
Brian Lewis: Ed Davis, on a one-year deal, wants to be back w/ the #Nets next season: “Honestly, I think about free agency; but I try to live in the moment…Obviously I want to be back. I said that so hopefully it works out in the summer.”
–

 

[UKRAINEFAN]

Brian Lewis: Spencer Dinwiddie on Ed Davis: “He’s a real dude, man.” Joe Harris added of Davis “He’s about the right stuff.”

 

[PtldPlatypus]

"Early last season, Zach Collins got DNPs and Davis could relate. "Trust me, I know how anxious you are," Davis told him, continually reminding Collins that his time would come. On road trips, Davis made a point of stopping by the rookie's hotel room to see how he was doing.

"He didn't have to," Collins said. "He took time out of his own stuff or whatever he had going on and went and checked on me. We loved having him here. I'll never forget the lessons that we learned from him."

Davis' departure meant Collins' role would be elevated, but the 21-year-old center said he was "bummed out" when he saw the news and still misses him. As a rookie trying to learn the NBA, it helped hearing Davis' voice when they shared the floor.

"In one year, Ed had a profound effect on Zach and helped him become a better pro because of it," Portland coach Terry Stotts said."

Ed Davis was to Zach Collins as Kim Hughes was to Meyers Leonard.

 

[Jade Falcon]

Ed Davis was to Zach Collins as Kim Hughes was to Meyers Leonard.

Maybe we should......gee, I dunno.......stop letting go those whom are actually helping this team? That might be a good idea......Olshey.