First Round: Claud vs. JFizzleRaider

[DynastYWarrioR6]

The winner of this matchup will face the winner between Big Frame/DynastYWarrioR6, depending on whether one of them has earned the Bye Round. Post the case for your team here, and keep all matchup discussion here.

Claud
PG: Isiah Thomas
SG: Sam Jones / Hal Greer / Manu Ginobili
SF: Rick Barry / Josh Smith / Rudy Gay
PF: Dave Debusschere / Buck Williams
C: Bill Russell / Andrew Bynum /Tyson Chandler

JFizzleRaider
PG: Oscar Robertson / Steve Nash / Tim Hardaway
SG: Tracy McGrady/ Alvin Robertson
SF: James Worthy / Grant Hill / / Larry Johnson
PF: Wes Unseld / Tom Chambers
C: Robert Parish / Maurice Lucas

 

[Claud]

Isiah Thomas/ Hal Greer
Manu Ginobili/Sam Jones
Rick Barry/Rudy Gay
Dave Debusschere/ Buck Williams/ Josh Smith
Bill Russell/Andrew Bynum/ Tyson Chandler

That's more like it

 

[Claud]

How am I losing so bad?

 

[JfizzleBlazer]

How am I losing so bad?

My backcourt is much better than yours, although you do have Bill Russell who is better than Robert Parish for sure.

I thought about voting for you just because of the hottie in your avatar

 

[Denny Crane]

I disagree with the majority here. Russell won 9 rings for a reason. Rick Barry is the best goto guy on either team. JFizzleRaider's team has the frontcourt to rebound and start the fast break, but nobody to really run it among the other three.

 

[Celtic Fan]

I disagree with the majority here. Russell won 9 rings for a reason. Rick Barry is the best goto guy on either team. JFizzleRaider's team has the frontcourt to rebound and start the fast break, but nobody to really run it among the other three.

you're nuts! Oscar or T-Mac can handle the ball and are both great passers on the run, Worthy Fills a lane and is one of the greatest fast break finishers of all time.

I think they'll be fine on any fast break opportunities.

 

[JfizzleBlazer]

I disagree with the majority here. Russell won 9 rings for a reason. Rick Barry is the best goto guy on either team. JFizzleRaider's team has the frontcourt to rebound and start the fast break, but nobody to really run it among the other three.

Barry is a better go-to-guy than Big O?

 

[huevonkiller]

you're nuts! Oscar or T-Mac can handle the ball and are both great passers on the run, Worthy Fills a lane and is one of the greatest fast break finishers of all time.

I think they'll be fine on any fast break opportunities.

I'm not that high on Worthy but he fits in decently here, and your other points are very valid to me.

 

[JfizzleBlazer]

If I wanted to I could run a lineup of Nash/Big O/T-Mac/Chambers or Worthy/Unseld and run just fine.

 

[Denny Crane]

Barry is a better go-to-guy than Big O?

Yes.

 

[JfizzleBlazer]

Yes.

Well I disagree.

 

[Denny Crane]

Robertson wasn't the go to guy on his own team (Kareem was).

Barry was go to guy on every team he played, including the ABA.

 

[Claud]

I like manu more than TMAC. He knows what it takes to win championships, like most players in my starting line-up.

 

[JfizzleBlazer]

Robertson wasn't the go to guy on his own team (Kareem was).

Barry was go to guy on every team he played, including the ABA.

So when Barry averaged 13 ppg in his final two years in Houston he was a go-to-guy?

And yeah Big O wasn't the go to guy on Kareems team, which was when he had been in the league for 10 years+, he was the go-to-guy for the Cincinnati Royals for 10 years.

ABA doesn't count btw, ABA inflated everyones stats.

If Big O had been in the ABA I'm sure he would have averaged 40 ppg.

 

[Denny Crane]

So when Barry averaged 13 ppg in his final two years in Houston he was a go-to-guy?

And yeah Big O wasn't the go to guy on Kareems team, which was when he had been in the league for 10 years+, he was the go-to-guy for the Cincinnati Royals for 10 years.

ABA doesn't count btw, ABA inflated everyones stats.

If Big O had been in the ABA I'm sure he would have averaged 40 ppg.

ABA does count.

Nobody scored 40 ppg in the ABA. Barry did score 35.6 and 34 tho. More than Dr. J ever scored.

 

[JfizzleBlazer]

ABA does count.

Nobody scored 40 ppg in the ABA. Barry did score 35.6 and 34 tho. More than Dr. J ever scored.

Barry scoring 35.6 was in the NBA, not the ABA. That season he took an astounding 29 shots a game. I doubt he takes that many shots on Clauds team.

The most shots a game Big O ever shot was 23.

Barry scored more than 30 ppg in 4 seasons, 2 NBA, 2 ABA.

Big O scored over 30 ppg in 6 NBA seasons. Big O also shot a (much) higher FG percentages than Barry each year

 

[DynastYWarrioR6]

I don't understand why everyone says ABA don't count. If that was the case, then there would've been no point in drafting ABA players, if everyone knew that everyone else wasn't going to like ANY ABA players at all. But that isn't the purpose of an All-Era draft, regardless of productions or whatnot, SKILL is SKILL.