Flynn's limitations

[Natebishop3]

I like him, I think he has a good feel for the game, but I just don't see much of a scoring ability. Maybe it's because he's still being tentative, but the guy doesn't seem to have a go-to-move on offense.

I love that he looks to pass, and he does a great job of finding the guys on the perimeter, but that's not really any different than what Sergio did. Passing is great, but you have to be able to keep the defense honest. If he can't get in the lane and score, or hit the mid-range J consistently, I don't think he has much of a future in the league.

 

[B-Roy]

He can get in the lane, but he's not a great finisher. For now, he is what he is, a capable backup (although better than Felton). There's hope obviously that he improves his game over the summer. The easiest thing for him to do is to get a jump shot. If he can hit three's at a 36-38% clip, it makes him so much more dangerous.

 

[Natebishop3]

Well, I've said it before, but I don't think he will be here next year. I figure he'll sign somewhere closer to home or for more money. I don't think we'll have much of anything to offer the guy if we're able to throw our space at some decent free agents.

 

[Nikolokolus]

I think it's likely he will always be a crappy finisher -- he just doesn't have the size, build and leaping ability to be otherwise. Like B-Roy says, his best bet is to try and become a knock-down outside shooter or develop some kind of floater as his go-to scoring move. I'd be shocked if he ever averaged more than 42% from the floor in any given season.

All that said I still like his feel for the game and court vision: his passes are on point, he doesn't seem to force things and he seems to have a pretty good intuitive feel for how to set his teammates up in a way that they can take a good rhythm shot. Probably would be a great backup to have going forward.

 

[Sinobas]

How much money do you think Flynn will get? His stock probably isn't that high. I think he's better at running the offense and controlling the ball than Felton or Smith. We know he can also take it to the hoop, but we just haven't seen him finish much. But he's been penetrating and finding open shooters. As long as the offence is producing, your PG is doing his job, and I think the bench has looked pretty good under Flynn's reign.

 

[Natebishop3]

I would like to keep him around, simply because he's young and he has potential.... but I guess we'll have to see if there's money left over or if he's interested in re-signing here.

 

[Nikolokolus]

How much money do you think Flynn will get? His stock probably isn't that high. I think he's better at running the offense and controlling the ball than Felton or Smith. We know he can also take it to the hoop, but we just haven't seen him finish much. But he's been penetrating and finding open shooters. As long as the offence is producing, your PG is doing his job, and I think the bench has looked pretty good under Flynn's reign.

For all the good Flynn does setting an offense, his defense is pretty fucking horrible ... I'd have serious concerns if he was on the floor 35+ minutes a night. He looks like a great 15-20 minute guy though.

Frankly, I don't see the offers being great this summer, He was terrible in Houston, he's got the hip injury history and despite some nice games as a reserve since he got to Portland his resume' is pretty thin. He looks a whole lot like a 3 million/year guy to me.

 

[Natebishop3]

The guy just really reminds me of Omar Cook.

 

[Tince]

The guy just really reminds me of Omar Cook.

That certainly isn't a compliment!

 

[B-Roy]

I think it's likely he will always be a crappy finisher -- he just doesn't have the size, build and leaping ability to be otherwise.

I don't know, his build is pretty similar to Chris Paul and Ty Lawson's. He just needs to add a bit more bulk.

 

[Natebishop3]

I don't know, his build is pretty similar to Chris Paul and Ty Lawson's. He just needs to add a bit more bulk.

I don't think finishing ability can be acquired in the gym or on the court. It's usually something a player just has. Allen Iverson was only 6' but he was an amazing finisher. Damon Stoudamire was a terrible finisher. I don't know if it's because of fear, or just natural athletic ability, but some players have it and some don't.

 

[jlprk]

I like him, I think he has a good feel for the game, but I just don't see much of a scoring ability. Maybe it's because he's still being tentative, but the guy doesn't seem to have a go-to-move on offense.

I love that he looks to pass, and he does a great job of finding the guys on the perimeter, but that's not really any different than what Sergio did. Passing is great, but you have to be able to keep the defense honest. If he can't get in the lane and score, or hit the mid-range J consistently, I don't think he has much of a future in the league.

That's a comparison I've been making, too. To the rookie (pre-McMillan) Sergio. Before Sergio got all inhibited. Same player.

 

[Mediocre Man]

Can't finish at the rim and plays sub par defense are the limitations I see.

 

[HailBlazers]

For now, he is what he is, a capable backup (although better than Felton)..

Unfortunately Not, due to the reasons listed below.

For all the good Flynn does setting an offense, his defense is pretty fucking horrible ...

Can't finish at the rim and plays sub par defense.

 

[Natebishop3]

If you can't hit a jumper or play (at least) average defense, then you probably won't stay in the league.

 

[B-Roy]

Unfortunately Not, due to the reasons listed below.

Have you been watching Felton?

 

[Natebishop3]

Have you been watching Felton?

HailBlazers likes Felton. Apparently he didn't realize that Felton is throwing games for us

 

[HailBlazers]

He'd make a great backup to Steve Nash or Dwill.

 

[Natebishop3]

He'd make a great backup to Steve Nash or Dwill.

Why would Felton want to be a backup? If we get DWill we won't be able to afford anyone else. That's why I'm hoping we draft Kendall Marshall.

 

[Nikolokolus]

He'd make a great backup to Steve Nash or Dwill.

Are you talking about Flynn? Then yes, I agree he'd probably make a decent backup to either of those guys. If Felton, then I'd ask you to kindly GTFO.

 

[Mediocre Man]

He'd make a great backup to Steve Nash or Dwill.

So you think Phoenix or NJ will target him? Because the Blazers woul dbe beyond stupid to bring in a 39 year old PG for a rebuilding project, and I don't think Williams will come here

 

[Mediocre Man]

Why would Felton want to be a backup? If we get DWill we won't be able to afford anyone else. That's why I'm hoping we draft Kendall Marshall.

No reason to waste a lottery pick in a rich front court draft on a PG that can't shoot if we got Williams

 

[Blazinaway]

I just do not think Flynn is very good, but given PG's we have all unfortunately suck. Flynn is > Nolan who amazingly seems to be getting worse the more he plays if that is possible! IMO we need entirely new players at PG next year, I'd rather not see any of these guys back.

 

[magnifier661]

I just do not think Flynn is very good, but given PG's we have all unfortunately suck. Flynn is > Nolan who amazingly seems to be getting worse the more he plays if that is possible! IMO we need entirely new players at PG next year, I'd rather not see any of these guys back.

I just think Flynn is a great back-up PG for us. We need the leader PG that can run the offense; and we bring in Flynn off the bench.

 

[Blazinaway]

I just think Flynn is a great back-up PG for us. We need the leader PG that can run the offense; and we bring in Flynn off the bench.

"great backup", nah I don't think so. maybe adequate at best. I think we've seen Flynn do okay and for us Blazer fans, given our horrendus PG play this yr, that might seem better than it really is given how use to mediocrity we have become. Nothin against Flynn, but he has some significant limitations IMO.

 

[PtldPlatypus]

Our fawning over mediocre PG's (myself included) reminds me of this exchange between Michael Douglas and Michael J Fox from "The American President":

(Michael J Fox):They want leadership. They're so thirsty for it they'll crawl through the desert toward a mirage, and when they discover there's no water, they'll drink the sand.
(Michael Douglas): ... People don't drink the sand because they're thirsty. They drink the sand because they don't know the difference.

I think that we've gone so long without adequate PG play that many of us are willing to drink sand rather than hold out for actual water.

 

[B-Roy]

"great backup", nah I don't think so. maybe adequate at best. I think we've seen Flynn do okay and for us Blazer fans, given our horrendus PG play this yr, that might seem better than it really is given how use to mediocrity we have become. Nothin against Flynn, but he has some significant limitations IMO.

There's nothing wrong with keeping an adequate backup at a reasonable price.

 

[Ed O]

The team will be best served by having a backup who has the potential to be a starting-level PG. Houston had that with Dragic... and it's why they were willing to dump Flynn.

Flynn is still young and he's been OK at Portland, but the bar (as others have alluded to) is quite low in Portland, and it's been set pretty low for Flynn because he's been such a bad player the last couple of years.

I'm happy the team is giving Flynn a tryout, and I hope that he proves me wrong, but I don't see him being a starting PG for any decent team in the NBA any time soon... and Portland should be looking to add young players that have that potential.

If he's cheap, and there's no other option? I'm all for Flynn coming back. I would imagine he'll be cheap (why would a team give him much money the way his career has gone?) but I'd also like to think that the team might be adding another, superior, option in the offseason.

Ed O.

 

[Blazinaway]

The team will be best served by having a backup who has the potential to be a starting-level PG. Houston had that with Dragic... and it's why they were willing to dump Flynn.

Flynn is still young and he's been OK at Portland, but the bar (as others have alluded to) is quite low in Portland, and it's been set pretty low for Flynn because he's been such a bad player the last couple of years.

I'm happy the team is giving Flynn a tryout, and I hope that he proves me wrong, but I don't see him being a starting PG for any decent team in the NBA any time soon... and Portland should be looking to add young players that have that potential.

If he's cheap, and there's no other option? I'm all for Flynn coming back. I would imagine he'll be cheap (why would a team give him much money the way his career has gone?) but I'd also like to think that the team might be adding another, superior, option in the offseason.

Ed O.

well said and totally agree

 

[jlprk]

The new coach won't require top individual defensive talent like McMillan did, which made trades and FAs much harder to find. Flynn might very well be here.