OT ...food for thought... laziest gun in the world

[yankeesince59]

Someone emailed this to me and I forwarded it to Totus and a few other people and thought I'd also post it here;


Today I swung my front door wide open and placed my Remington 30.06 right in the doorway. I left 6 cartridges beside it, then left it alone and went about my business. While I was gone, the mailman delivered my mail, the neighbor boy across the street mowed the yard, a girl walked her dog down the street, and quite a few cars stopped at the stop sign near the front of my house.
After about an hour, I checked on the gun. It was still sitting there, right where I had left it. It hadn't moved itself outside. It certainly hadn't killed anyone, even with the numerous opportunities it had presented to do so.
In fact, it hadn't even loaded itself. Well you can imagine my surprise, with all the hype by the Left and the Media about how dangerous guns are and how they kill people. Either the media is wrong or I'm in possession of the laziest gun in the world.
The United States is 3rd in Murders throughout the World. But if you take out just 4 cities: Chicago, Detroit, Washington DC and New Orleans, the United States is 4th from the bottom, in the entire world, for Murders.
These 4 Cities also have the toughest Gun Control Laws in the U.S. ALL 4 of these cities are controlled by Democrats. It would be absurd to draw any conclusions from this data - right?
Well, I'm off to check on my spoons. I hear they're making people fat.

 

[totus44]

Love it!

 

[blgridesagain]

Someone emailed this to me and I forwarded it to Totus and a few other people and thought I'd also post it here;


Today I swung my front door wide open and placed my Remington 30.06 right in the doorway. I left 6 cartridges beside it, then left it alone and went about my business. While I was gone, the mailman delivered my mail, the neighbor boy across the street mowed the yard, a girl walked her dog down the street, and quite a few cars stopped at the stop sign near the front of my house.
After about an hour, I checked on the gun. It was still sitting there, right where I had left it. It hadn't moved itself outside. It certainly hadn't killed anyone, even with the numerous opportunities it had presented to do so.
In fact, it hadn't even loaded itself. Well you can imagine my surprise, with all the hype by the Left and the Media about how dangerous guns are and how they kill people. Either the media is wrong or I'm in possession of the laziest gun in the world.
The United States is 3rd in Murders throughout the World. But if you take out just 4 cities: Chicago, Detroit, Washington DC and New Orleans, the United States is 4th from the bottom, in the entire world, for Murders.
These 4 Cities also have the toughest Gun Control Laws in the U.S. ALL 4 of these cities are controlled by Democrats. It would be absurd to draw any conclusions from this data - right?
Well, I'm off to check on my spoons. I hear they're making people fat.

Toss in Philly and L.A.
Of course NYC has it's share but they also have 8 million people and per capita it's probably the "safest" Big City re murder in the country.

 

[Rick2583]

Thanks for passing this on Ron.

 

[Hammerojustice]

Someone emailed this to me and I forwarded it to Totus and a few other people and thought I'd also post it here;


Today I swung my front door wide open and placed my Remington 30.06 right in the doorway. I left 6 cartridges beside it, then left it alone and went about my business. While I was gone, the mailman delivered my mail, the neighbor boy across the street mowed the yard, a girl walked her dog down the street, and quite a few cars stopped at the stop sign near the front of my house.
After about an hour, I checked on the gun. It was still sitting there, right where I had left it. It hadn't moved itself outside. It certainly hadn't killed anyone, even with the numerous opportunities it had presented to do so.
In fact, it hadn't even loaded itself. Well you can imagine my surprise, with all the hype by the Left and the Media about how dangerous guns are and how they kill people. Either the media is wrong or I'm in possession of the laziest gun in the world.
The United States is 3rd in Murders throughout the World. But if you take out just 4 cities: Chicago, Detroit, Washington DC and New Orleans, the United States is 4th from the bottom, in the entire world, for Murders.
These 4 Cities also have the toughest Gun Control Laws in the U.S. ALL 4 of these cities are controlled by Democrats. It would be absurd to draw any conclusions from this data - right?
Well, I'm off to check on my spoons. I hear they're making people fat.

Seen this before and LOVE it!

 

[Mattingly23NY]

Seen this before and LOVE it!

BRAVO...........!!!

 

[yankeesince59]

Seen this before and LOVE it!

...with the anonymity and lack of accountability of the internet I suppose it's pretty hard to determine who originated what and exactly when...over the years, I've received hundreds of bits of "info" through emails that were "forwarded" to me that ultimately turned out to be bogus or attributed them to the wrong person as actually having said them.

...but hey, as they say, "If it's on the internet, it must be true".

 

[Mattingly23NY]

...with the anonymity and lack of accountability of the internet I suppose it's pretty hard to determine who originated what and exactly when...over the years, I've received hundreds of bits of "info" through emails that were "forwarded" to me that ultimately turned out to be bogus or attributed them to the wrong person as actually having said them.

...but hey, as they say, "If it's on the internet, it must be true".

Were those "Silent Killing Spoons" still where ya' put 'em last, or did they disappear on their own, to take the life of another victim....?

I've got this fork, every time I pick it up, it tries to stab me, one hand on the other fighting that fork off. I've buried it, blew it up, and it keeps showing back up in my silverware drawer.........its not heart attacks that are the silent killers, its spoons and forks, sporks too.....

 

[Hammerojustice]

...but hey, as they say, "If it's on the internet, it must be true".

I believe that is an Abraham Lincoln quote... At least that's the word on the internet...

 

[totus44]

Were those "Silent Killing Spoons" still where ya' put 'em last, or did they disappear on their own, to take the life of another victim....?

I've got this fork, every time I pick it up, it tries to stab me, one hand on the other fighting that fork off. I've buried it, blew it up, and it keeps showing back up in my silverware drawer.........its not heart attacks that are the silent killers, its spoons and forks, sporks too.....

Rob.....you really did too much acid in the 60's and 70's.

 

[Mattingly23NY]

Rob.....you really did too much acid in the 60's and 70's.

I plead the 5th...........

it could be all that JP4 Fuel emissions I smelt in the 80s on-

Isn't pleading the 5th an admission of guilt in a round about way, by simply refusing to speak or answer Q;s, lest one be found guilty...?

 

[stampedehero]

Someone emailed this to me and I forwarded it to Totus and a few other people and thought I'd also post it here;


Today I swung my front door wide open and placed my Remington 30.06 right in the doorway. I left 6 cartridges beside it, then left it alone and went about my business. While I was gone, the mailman delivered my mail, the neighbor boy across the street mowed the yard, a girl walked her dog down the street, and quite a few cars stopped at the stop sign near the front of my house.
After about an hour, I checked on the gun. It was still sitting there, right where I had left it. It hadn't moved itself outside. It certainly hadn't killed anyone, even with the numerous opportunities it had presented to do so.
In fact, it hadn't even loaded itself. Well you can imagine my surprise, with all the hype by the Left and the Media about how dangerous guns are and how they kill people. Either the media is wrong or I'm in possession of the laziest gun in the world.
The United States is 3rd in Murders throughout the World. But if you take out just 4 cities: Chicago, Detroit, Washington DC and New Orleans, the United States is 4th from the bottom, in the entire world, for Murders.
These 4 Cities also have the toughest Gun Control Laws in the U.S. ALL 4 of these cities are controlled by Democrats. It would be absurd to draw any conclusions from this data - right?
Well, I'm off to check on my spoons. I hear they're making people fat.

Your point is well thought. Include Camden and Trenton, NJ Both in my State.

 

[totus44]

The number of concealed carry permits continues to surge....5% of the US population and climbing. And that doesn't include the open carry states in the west where people have traditionally worn a firearm.

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2015/07/1...rmits-soar-as-murder-rate-drops-study-claims/

 

[Mattingly23NY]

if you take out just 4 cities: Chicago, Detroit, Washington DC and New Orleans, the United States is 4th from the bottom, in the entire world, for Murders.'

These 4 Cities also have the toughest Gun Control Laws in the U.S. ALL 4 of these cities are controlled by Democrats. It would be absurd to draw any conclusions from this data - right?
Well, I'm off to check on my spoons. I hear they're making people fat.

I recall several years in the 70s, about the time I moved here, and heard, there are/were, as many Homicides in Los Angeles, per day, than in Tokyo or London, in a full year. What really fkd with my head, was hearing, -
"Welcome to Los Angeles, where there are more Homicides per day, than Death's in Beirut, over the course of a Lebanese Month"..

Of course all these stats are in flux, constantly evolving, yet more often than not, its usually the same cities, year after year.......

Notable: In 2013, the top 10 cities for Homicide rates were, (and this stat changes yearly over decades):

#10- Kansas City
#9- Baton Rouge
#8- Oakland
#7- Cincinnati
#6- Birmingham, AL.
#5- Baltimore
#4- St. Louis
#3- Newark
#2- New Orleans
#1- Detroit


This statement (to follow), did NOT surprise me, but reveals how racists bigots continue to deflect blame, utilizing their racists groups, the NAACP, and ACLU, (separate rights not equal rights); as well as vindication for relatives who were slaves, of which these great great great X 4 kids, think their entire race has or was treated unfair, as if they deserve something, another handout for History being what it merely was then. Even George Washington and Jefferson, used Slaves........as well as other ex-Presidents.......Not to mention, Caucasians, were NOT the persons who rounded up Slaves in Africa, to be shipped to the USA....

For every Black Social complaint, I hear; I simply turn such a convo to the plights and genocides of the Native American Indians, to rebuke those who think they have it so bad, as if 'they' themselves were Slaves......

Blacks are disproportionately represented as both homicide victims and offenders. The victimization rates for blacks were 6 times higher than those for whites. The offending rates for blacks were more than 7 times higher the rates for whites.

and- (I don't share the same view points of this article clipping)........

Let’s look at Tokyo, one of the safest cities on that list, with a murder rate of 0.5 per 100,000 citizens. Japan’s constitution does not guarantee its citizens the right to bear arms. Handguns are prohibited. Semi-automatic weapons are prohibited. Automatic rifles are prohibited. The only exceptions are hunting shotguns and target-shooting pistols. The penalty for illegal possession of a gun is up to 15 years in prison. Japan has a population of 127 million. In 2006, two people were murdered with guns.

Japan starts with the principle that citizens have no right to a gun, and forces them to prove they need one. The United States starts with the principle that guns are an inalienable right, and forces the government to justify banning them.


***The number-one factor in predicting crime is not guns -- or lack of guns. It is concentrated urban poverty. Because of Chicago’s history as a segregated city, we have a lot of that.


Source: http://www.nbcchicago.com/blogs/ward-room/The-Deadliest-Global-City-163874546.html#ixzz3gHS96slM

*** its these truths, which blacks refuse to see, let alone fix a cultural shitpile of bigot viewpoints, by the largest racist social group in the USA. Blacks, not seeking employment or furthering their educations, as well as finding a job and roof over their heads, by joining the Crips or Bloods, in lieu of getting a legit 9 to 5 job....

 

[Mattingly23NY]

I think I'll change my SN, to "Dear Abby".......... after proof reading the last post-Doh.......!!!

 

[yankeesince59]

[QUOTE="Mattingly23NY, post: 3683091

***The number-one factor in predicting crime is not guns -- or lack of guns. It is concentrated urban poverty. [/QUOTE]

...bingo.

 

[totus44]

The thing about japan.... Broaden that stat out for say the history of the US....and you'll see that their society was quite brutal. Knives are still the traditional weapon, and Yakuza murders don't get counted these days.

BTW, point of clarification, the US Constitution does not GIVE rights, it protects them. The first 10, aka Bill of Rights enumerates what the founders saw as rights bestowed to all humans (from God) or you can also say...from the basis of being human. To keep and bare arms provides to safeguard oneself (sic Heller, et.al.) as well as to check/balance tyranny.

The establishment in our urban centers have long run afoul of constitutionalism and rule of law. When those citizens have their rights fully restored, then we'll see real change in terms of crime. Of course we can get their much faster if we extend Roe v. Wade to say birth+30 yrs.

 

[Mattingly23NY]

Of course we can get their much faster if we extend Roe v. Wade to say birth+30 yrs.

and-

I'd honestly not have a problem with Govt stepping into mine and all others, affairs, for the sole purpose to investigate Child Mills, Women who have 5-6 kids, by 5-6 different Fathers, spaced out over years, to keep the income coming, ie, handouts........As well as Fathers who have multiple kids by multiple women, wives or one time girlfriends........and fail to pay a penny in child support......

(to fail to pay child support or fail to help raise one's child, is the epitome of a parent who has no self respect for themselves; otherwise every need of ones child would always require 1st priority, onself, last..........IMO...I wonder what the Govt would do in China under these pretexts????????? Firing Squads........??? seriously.....?

Calling all Catholic Girls (before they become Nuns).....

 

[BrianFromWA]

 

[barfo]

But at the same time, don't take guns away from stupid people, because Liberty. Stupid people should be able to kill people with guns just like Navy Seals. We'll just call them stupid afterwards, so joke's on them.

barfo

 

[BrianFromWA]

Stupid people that kill people with guns should be exterminated, but because Liberal, they aren't.

 

[Hammerojustice]

[QUOTE="Mattingly23NY, post: 3683091

***The number-one factor in predicting crime is not guns -- or lack of guns. It is concentrated urban poverty.

...bingo.[/QUOTE]
I would think its equally a lack of good parenting, specifically that of a dad..

 

[yankeesince59]

^^^ Yeah, not to downplay the importance of a Mother's role, especially during earlier developmental years, but a child, especially a boy, REALLY needs to have a Father around.

 

[Rick2583]

...bingo.

I would think its equally a lack of good parenting, specifically that of a dad..[/QUOTE]


Completely agree here.

 

[totus44]

But at the same time, don't take guns away from stupid people, because Liberty. Stupid people should be able to kill people with guns just like Navy Seals. We'll just call them stupid afterwards, so joke's on them.

barfo

If you have ever been through a gun registration process ( new for you folks in WA) or applied for NFA status with the BAFTE, their are significant mechanisms in place that prohibit 'stupid people' access to owning firearms. Convicted felons, existing restraining orders, psychiatric care, drug abuse.....the full spectrum of stupid.

It's not loopholes, background checks, gun shows or the NRA that puts guns in the hands of stupid people. It's stupid people committing a felony to illegally possess said firearm. No local gun store owner wants to risk prison by knowingly breaking the law...those LGS folks have to pass significant BG checks and govt (state and fed) scrutiny.

So what is the solution to the violence issue? Disarmament has stopped (mostly) fatal shootings in Australia and the UK, but at what cost? Violent crime has risen in those places and murder weapons have become fists, knives and blunt objects. Conversely, the Swiss are virtually all armed (by duty) and fatal shooting there are very low. Much smaller population that is much more educated and low unemployment...by virtue of a stable economy with low taxes, etc.

Our cities have for decades tried to apply the Wyatt Earp model for Dodge City & Tombstone.....no firearms within city limits except law enforcement. That only worked because Earp had the balls to enforce these rules. Now it's well accepted that what he did was a violation of the 2A.... Fast forward to today and we have govt making rules that make buying, possessing, storing, and training with a firearm within big city centers like LA, SF, NY, Chicago, Baltimore, DC, etc for the avg law abiding citizen impossible to virtually impossible due to red tape. That has created a contained victim-class. Those determined to be stupid, i.e. break the law eskew these safeguards because the perception is that the reward outweighs the risk. So you either need to have the premise that criminals will be disarmed (and population is ready for lots of police in body bags), or you arm the populace and find a status quo. The latter is slowly happening due to several major 2A victories in the Supreme Court and lower courts. But now this is where govt can continue to be the problem (and fight a losing battle) or be part of the solution.

Solutions like a Federal mental health system and hospitals. Up to date db of prohibited persons with active enforcement. National concealed carry law with 50 state reciprocity. National castle doctrine and stand your ground laws. There is no reason why a national instant background check can't be instituted...without registration. And generally a cleaning up of the existing guns laws to be consistent and less ambiguous state-by-state. Then a judicial enforcement of those laws.

These items eliminate ALL active shooters outside of radical Islam inspired sprees over the last few decades. And would significantly decrease inner city violence.

 

[BrianFromWA]

Thanks for the post...this is the first time I've thought about it this way, but what really is the problem with "background check" + "no registration"? People who shouldn't have weapons/aren't allowed to get weapons can be stopped, without anyone knowing what weapons I buy or don't buy from whatever dealer I want. Why not?

 

[totus44]

Two common responses to the universal bgc is that it (1) can be used as a defacto registration (& misused for confiscation) and/or (2) even as meta data...be hacked.

(1) is kinda paranoid, with 20s of millions of armed households, any govt confiscation action will be well telegraphed and ample time for the next Lexington & Concord.

(2) is a more legitimate concern. Anonymity goes hand-in-hand with ownership, especially concealed carry in the current social paradigm. In CA, an interesting proposal by UCLA Prof. Adam Winkler called to resolve Peruta v. Harris by the legislature passing unloaded open-carry state-wide. The theory being, less people would be confident to have their identity out there for all to see, etc. Whereas the counter argument is the creation of a social shift where its cool to carry.

I'm seeing a cultural shift where more people that don't have experience are seeking out to see for themselves what it's like. I get monthly requests from friends or coworkers on where to buy, get training or best ranges. And not white males, many more women and minorities.

 

[BrianFromWA]

when I get back I'll have to have a PM chat with you. Looking for help walking through the process.

 

[totus44]

Anytime.

 

[Hammerojustice]

^^^ Yeah, not to downplay the importance of a Mother's role, especially during earlier developmental years, but a child, especially a boy, REALLY needs to have a Father around.

Absolutely!