Politics Foreign governments gave millions to foundation while Clinton was at State Dept.

[Denny Crane]

http://www.washingtonpost.com/polit...937c1e-bc3f-11e4-8668-4e7ba8439ca6_story.html

The Clinton Foundation accepted millions of dollars from seven foreign governments during Hillary Rodham Clinton’s tenure as secretary of state, including one donation that violated its ethics agreement with the Obama administration, foundation officials disclosed Wednesday.

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Foreign governments and individuals are prohibited from giving money to U.S. political candidates, to prevent outside influence over national leaders. But the foundation has given donors a way to potentially gain favor with the Clintons outside the traditional political limits.

 

[BlazerDuckSeahawkFan94]

Lol if this makes her pull out of 2016 I'd love to see a Biden/Warren ticket just for the lulz

 

[BlazerWookee]

Why would this make her pull out? I would think that after the Lewinsky incident, neither Clinton would ever pull out early again...

 

[bodyman5000 and 1]

Hahahaha, if there is a better example of what is wrong with politics than this and any Bush holding public office I don't know what it is.

 

[magnifier661]

Prepare yourself for a mega slow and extremely painful death....

 

[Denny Crane]

This is the kind of thing they'll do to get around any campaign finance reform.

How can you prevent charitable organizations from taking donations from anyone?

 

[MARIS61]

Not only did she serve honorably as Secretary of State, she managed to tip the trade deficit a tad towards our favor.

Gotta love a multi-tasker.

 

[MARIS61]

This is the kind of thing they'll do to get around any campaign finance reform.

How can you prevent charitable organizations from taking donations from anyone?

It's not Clinton's money to use politically, personally or otherwise.

It is money donated to charity which will go to people in need, primarily if not exclusively in 3rd world countries.

 

[Denny Crane]

It's not Clinton's money to use politically, personally or otherwise.

It is money donated to charity which will go to people in need, primarily if not exclusively in 3rd world countries.

If someone donates $1billion, they get no special favors. Hahahahahaha.

 

[dviss1]

If someone donates $1billion, they get no special favors. Hahahahahaha.

If you can't point out the "special favors" why bring it up?

 

[Denny Crane]

If you can't point out the "special favors" why bring it up?

Too easy
http://www.wsj.com/articles/foreign-government-gifts-to-clinton-foundation-on-the-rise-1424223031

One of the 2014 donations comes from a Canadian agency promoting the proposed Keystone pipeline, which is favored by Republicans and under review by the Obama administration. The Foreign Affairs, Trade and Development agency of Canada, a first-time donor, gave between $250,000 and $500,000. The donations, which are disclosed voluntarily by the foundation, are given only in ranges.

One of the agency’s priorities for 2014-2015 was to promote Keystone XL “as a stable and secure source of energy and energy technology,” according to the agency’s website. Mrs. Clinton’s State Department was involved in approving the U.S. government’s initial environmental-impact statement. Since leaving State, Mrs. Clinton has repeatedly declined to comment on Keystone.

The Canadian donation originated from an agency office separate from the one that advocates for Keystone XL, a Foundation spokesman said.

While the Canadian donation didn’t appear in a Clinton Foundation online database of donors until recently, the donation of about $480,000 was announced in June in Cartagena, Colombia, where the program provides job training for youths.

Kirk Hanson, director of the Markkula Center for Applied Ethics at Santa Clara University in California, said the Clintons should immediately reimpose the ban, for the same reasons it was in place while Mrs. Clinton led U.S. foreign policy.

 

[dviss1]

Too easy
http://www.wsj.com/articles/foreign-government-gifts-to-clinton-foundation-on-the-rise-1424223031

One of the 2014 donations comes from a Canadian agency promoting the proposed Keystone pipeline, which is favored by Republicans and under review by the Obama administration. The Foreign Affairs, Trade and Development agency of Canada, a first-time donor, gave between $250,000 and $500,000. The donations, which are disclosed voluntarily by the foundation, are given only in ranges.

One of the agency’s priorities for 2014-2015 was to promote Keystone XL “as a stable and secure source of energy and energy technology,” according to the agency’s website. Mrs. Clinton’s State Department was involved in approving the U.S. government’s initial environmental-impact statement. Since leaving State, Mrs. Clinton has repeatedly declined to comment on Keystone.

The Canadian donation originated from an agency office separate from the one that advocates for Keystone XL, a Foundation spokesman said.

While the Canadian donation didn’t appear in a Clinton Foundation online database of donors until recently, the donation of about $480,000 was announced in June in Cartagena, Colombia, where the program provides job training for youths.

Kirk Hanson, director of the Markkula Center for Applied Ethics at Santa Clara University in California, said the Clintons should immediately reimpose the ban, for the same reasons it was in place while Mrs. Clinton led U.S. foreign policy.

Well, I hope Warren runs. I'd hate to have to play "defense" and hold my nose while voting for Hillary... She approved Keystone in the State Dept, is against single payer, and was on the board of Wal-Mart.

 

[Denny Crane]

It really doesn't matter what Hillary does. She's always been one of the most ethical people.

What really matters is the precedence. Soon you'll have every politician with multiple PACs and multiple charitable organizations.

Who are these charities contracting with to provide certain services?

 

[MARIS61]

Nothing compared to the billions the Bush and Bin Laden families made jointly through their mutual defense investments in the Carlyle Group due to 9/11 and Bush's Halliburton investments.

No charitable donations involved, just sheer war-profiteering created by their joint plot, attack, and subsequent DHS coup of America.

As we all know, the Bush family first got rich from supporting Hitler, so this should come as no surprise.

 

[Denny Crane]

Deflect and deny. Doesn't help your side at all.

Nobody in Carslyle held office after joining.

 

[MARIS61]

Deflect and deny. Doesn't help your side at all.

Nobody in Carslyle held office after joining.

Not that taking a temporary "leave" from Carlyle to manipulate governments for Carlyle profits or taking a bribe of a position AFTER abusing office to do Carlyle's bidding means anything, but you're still wrong.

• James Baker III, former United States Secretary of State under George H. W. Bush, Staff member under Ronald Reagan and George W. Bush, Carlyle Senior Counselor, served in this capacity from 1993 to 2005.
• George H. W. Bush, former U.S. President, Senior Advisor to the Carlyle Asia Advisory Board from April 1998 to October 2003.
• Frank C. Carlucci, former United States Secretary of Defense from 1987 to 1989; Carlyle Chairman and Chairman Emeritus from 1989 to 2005.
• Richard G. Darman, Director of the Office of Management and Budget in the Bush Administration; Managing director from 1993, later Senior Advisor[91]
• William E. Kennard, chairman of the Federal Communications Commission from 1997-2001 and United States Ambassador to the European Union; Carlyle managing director from 2001-2009[92]
• Arthur Levitt, Chairman of the U.S. Securities and Exchange Commission (SEC) under President Bill Clinton, Carlyle Senior Advisor from 2001 to the present
• Julius Genachowski, former Chairman of the Federal Communications Commission
• Mack McLarty, Carlyle Group Senior Advisor (from 2003), White House Chief of Staff to President Bill Clinton from 1993 to 1994.
• Randal K. Quarles, former Under Secretary of the U.S. Treasury under President George W. Bush, now a Carlyle managing director

 

[MARIS61]

And I don't have a "side".

I'm neither Dem nor Rep, nor am I a fan of Hillary.

 

[Denny Crane]

You're deflecting again. This isn't about Carlysle, it's about Hillary and the Clinton charity taking foreign money for influence while she was Secy. of State and while she may run for president.

 

[MARIS61]

You're deflecting again. This isn't about Carlysle, it's about Hillary and the Clinton charity taking foreign money for influence while she was Secy. of State and while she may run for president.

Not deflecting, just pointing out the mind-boggling hypocrisy of right-wingers criticizing Hillary for something completely beyond her control that only benefits millions of the world's poorest people when the right-wing politicos have continually and deliberately committed actual treason against America solely for their own personal profit.

 

[Denny Crane]

Nobody from Carlysle Group served in office after joining Carlysle.

Hillary has served and perhaps will run for president all the while she's taken money from Foreign Governments.

I realize you want to deflect from what she's doing that's wrong by suggesting there's a bogeyman on the right.

As far as I'm concerned, once you're out of government, you can't be prevented from getting a job. That's "not freedom" you know.


Just to put your bullshit to rest:



Baker joined Carslyle in 1993. He served in the Bush presidency prior. He never served any public office since.

Bush joined Carslyle as an advisor 5 years after retiring from public office.

Carlucci became Chairman of Carslyle after leaving his position as Secy of Defense.

Darman joined in 1993, the year Clinton took office.

Kennard joined in 2001, and only held a public office prior.

etc.

Ironically, names like Kennard, Levvitt, and McLarty were Clinton people.

 

[MARIS61]

You're in office, I (Carlyle Group) make a deal with you that you commit treason by abusing your office to maximize my profits and I (Carlyle Group) promise you a cushy job and other payoffs after you leave office.

This is how all major industries in America operate, and how most politicians in America operate. It's the standard way of buying influence in America.

But go ahead and play dumb, as you always do.

 

[Denny Crane]

You're in office, I (Carlyle Group) make a deal with you that you commit treason by abusing your office to maximize my profits and I (Carlyle Group) promise you a cushy job and other payoffs after you leave office.

This is how all major industries in America operate, and how most politicians in America operate. It's the standard way of buying influence in America.

But go ahead and play dumb, as you always do.

What does that have to do specifically with Carslysle group? Any politician can be bribed by anyone.

You're still deflecting.

Hillary took money from foreign governments while Secy. of State. Instead of her having to spend her own money on lavish trips, she was able to use the charity's money. She took money from the Canadian government agency responsible for lobbying to get Keystone Pipeline approved and built.

Quid pro quo.

You have no examples of treason - those types of statements by you are why it's hard to take you seriously.

 

[MARIS61]

What does that have to do specifically with Carslysle group? Any politician can be bribed by anyone.

You're still deflecting.

Hillary took money from foreign governments while Secy. of State. Instead of her having to spend her own money on lavish trips, she was able to use the charity's money. She took money from the Canadian government agency responsible for lobbying to get Keystone Pipeline approved and built.

Quid pro quo.

You have no examples of treason - those types of statements by you are why it's hard to take you seriously.

ALL politicians ARE bribed by someone. No politician has ever avoided owing huge favors to donors (without being assassinated, imprisoned, or run out of politics.

Hillary never took a dime. Donations were made directly to a charitable organization, and used solely for charity work in foreign countries.

I gave many examples, but you never read the links and apparently don't understand what and who the Carlyle Group represents, and how deeply imbedded they are in the control of our Department of Defense.

 

[Denny Crane]

ALL politicians ARE bribed by someone. No politician has ever avoided owing huge favors to donors (without being assassinated, imprisoned, or run out of politics.

Hillary never took a dime. Donations were made directly to a charitable organization, and used solely for charity work in foreign countries.

I gave many examples, but you never read the links and apparently don't understand what and who the Carlyle Group represents, and how deeply imbedded they are in the control of our Department of Defense.

Borrow from Peter (Charity) to pay Paul (lavish vacations, world travel). She and her husband have a slush fund of $2Billion to spend as they see fit.

I totally understand and know who the Carlyle group is.

But you and a bunch of nutty conspiracy theorists think they're the boogeyman.

 

[MARIS61]

 

[Denny Crane]

PRESSTV.COM

I'm impressed. Not.

Carlyle is a venture capital firm that specializes in aerospace and defense sectors. They clearly have a lot of expertise to analyze their investments. Nobody "donates" to them in exchange for anything but a return on their investment.

http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2013/06/11/its-tin-foil-hat-time-bushs-carlyle-group-behind-nsa-spying/

It’s Tin Foil Hat Time – Bush’s Carlyle Group behind NSA Spying

 

[Denny Crane]

Right wing NY Times

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/08/14/u...ndation-over-finances-and-ambitions.html?_r=0

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For most of the foundation’s existence, its leadership has been dominated by loyal veterans of the Clintons’ political lives. Ira C. Magaziner, who was a Rhodes scholar with Mr. Clinton and ran Mrs. Clinton’s failed attempt at a health care overhaul in the 1990s, is widely credited as the driving force behind the foundation’s largest project, the Clinton Health Access Initiative, which, among other efforts, negotiates bulk purchasing agreements and price discounts on lifesaving medicines.

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Today, big-name companies vie to buy sponsorships at prices of $250,000 and up, money that has helped subsidize the foundation’s annual operating costs. Last year, the foundation and two subsidiaries had revenues of more than $214 million.

Yet the foundation’s expansion has also been accompanied by financial problems. In 2007 and 2008, the foundation also found itself competing against Mrs. Clinton’s presidential campaign for donors amid a recession. Millions of dollars in contributions intended to seed an endowment were diverted to other programs, creating tension between Mr. Magaziner and Mr. Band. The foundation piled up a $40 million deficit during those two years, according to tax returns. Last year, it ran more than $8 million in the red.

Amid those shortfalls, the foundation has sometimes catered to donors and celebrities who gave money in ways that raised eyebrows in the low-key nonprofit world. In 2009, during a Clinton Global Initiative gathering at the University of Texas at Austin, the foundation purchased a first-class ticket for the actress Natalie Portman, a special guest, who brought her beloved Yorkie, according to two former foundation employees.

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By 2011, the firm had added a third partner, Declan Kelly, a former State Department envoy for Mrs. Clinton. And Mr. Clinton had signed up as a paid adviser to the firm.

Teneo worked on retainer, charging monthly fees as high as $250,000, according to current and former clients. The firm recruited clients who were also Clinton Foundation donors, while Mr. Band and Mr. Kelly encouraged others to become new foundation donors. Its marketing materials highlighted Mr. Band’s relationship with Mr. Clinton and the Clinton Global Initiative, where Mr. Band sat on the board of directors through 2011 and remains an adviser. Some Clinton aides and foundation employees began to wonder where the foundation ended and Teneo began.

Those worries intensified after the collapse of MF Global, the international brokerage firm led by Jon S. Corzine, a former governor of New Jersey, in the fall of 2011. The firm had been among Teneo’s earliest clients, and its collapse over bad European investments — while paying $125,000 a month for the firm’s public relations and financial advice — drew Teneo and the Clintons unwanted publicity.

 

[Denny Crane]

Slick (Willie!).

Donations go into the charity, he takes it out as paid fees as an advisor to on of the charity's vendors.

Rob Peter to pay Paul.

Sluck!