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Shane Kohfield stood outside the home of Portland’s mayor in July wearing body armor and a “Make America Great Again” baseball cap, a large knife strapped to one shoulder and a copy of his concealed weapons permit displayed on the other.

Using a loudspeaker, he warned the right-wing activists who turned out to condemn the city’s handling of recent violent demonstrations that they needed to protect themselves against their anti-fascist, or antifa, rivals.

“If antifa gets to the point where they start killing us, I’m going to kill them next,” Kohfield, 32, said. “I’d slaughter them and I have a detailed plan on how I would wipe out antifa.”

That threat pushed the FBI’s Joint Terrorism Task to take a series of extraordinary steps against Kohfield, including temporary seizure of a cache of his firearms under Oregon’s new “red flag” law aimed at preventing gun violence, The Oregonian/OregonLive has learned.

The task force also had the ex-Marine committed to a veterans’ hospital in Portland. He spent the next 20 days there.

The moves came as city officials and law enforcement prepared for potentially violent clashes Aug. 17 during a right-wing rally and counterprotests planned in downtown Portland that had become inflamed with incendiary political rhetoric nationwide. Police worried that they would end in catastrophe.

Though Kohfield wasn’t accused or charged with any crimes, police took no chances and prevented him from attending the rally as he repeatedly had promised to do on social media after his confrontation at Mayor Ted Wheeler’s house.

The episode shows that federal law enforcement may be beginning to take a more aggressive tack toward potential political threats, said Michael German, a retired FBI agent and fellow at the Brennan Center for Justice at New York University Law School.

“Clearly, this latest incident shows how effective proactive policing can be in reducing the chance of violence,” said German, who has monitored political street clashes in Portland and other parts of the country over the last few years.

“It also makes you wonder if they’d been proactive from beginning whether all of this would have grown into the menace it has become.”

The FBI declined to provide additional details about the case or answer questions submitted by The Oregonian/OregonLive.

“The Portland JTTF’s role is to assess, address, and mitigate any given threat against the people of Oregon appropriately,” Beth Anne Steele, a spokeswoman for the bureau’s Portland office said in an email Friday.

“Sometimes that mitigation takes the form of criminal prosecution, and sometimes it involves a holistic response, including consultation with threat assessment teams or others to divert a person before a significant violent crime occurs.”

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Kohfield, who spoke with The Oregonian/OregonLive, suffers from bipolar disorder and post-traumatic stress disorder, medical records show.

He returned home Tuesday from the VA hospital and maintains he never planned to hurt or maim other people. But he understands why he alarmed police.

“I looked unhinged. I looked dangerous and have the training to be dangerous,” said Kohfield, who lives with his father in Canby and receives disability payments for physical and psychological injuries he sustained during two tours of duty in Iraq.

By leveling vicious warnings, Kohfield said, he hoped to deter others from causing physical harm.

“I figured that the key to de-escalating the situation was to not be the most violent person in the room,” he said. “It was to be the scariest person in the room.”

A supporter of President Donald Trump, Kohfield said he isn’t affiliated with Patriot Prayer, the Proud Boys or other right-wing groups that have organized marches and demonstration throughout Portland over the last 2 ½ years, some that have devolved into bloody brawls and riots.

His protest activity, he said, has been limited to the event outside the mayor’s house and a right-wing rally last fall in downtown Portland, both organized by local conservative activist Haley Adams.

“I was watching on the news that city of Portland did nothing to protect the people against antifa,” Kohfield said. “I figured I’d show up to protect these people.”

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By the time he popped up at the mayor’s house, Kohfield was already on the FBI’s radar.

He had landed there in March after he sent a letter to Texas Rep. Dan Crenshaw, a first-term Republican congressman and former Navy Seal, according court documents filed in Clackamas County.

The five-page letter, included in the court filings, accused Portland’s mayor and police of permitting anti-fascist activists to commit “savage attacks” against conservatives at protests, including the November rally where Kohfield said he was assaulted by masked demonstrators.

Kohfield told Crenshaw that Congress needed to take immediate steps to declare antifa a terrorist organization. Otherwise, he and other veterans would have no choice but to begin systematically killing antifa members “until we have achieved genocide.”

Kohfield included a detailed outline of how he would carry out the mission, which he argued would be legally justified if the federal government refused to act.

The U.S. Capitol Police shared the letter with the FBI’s Portland office, which assigned the case to a Clackamas County sheriff’s deputy serving on the area’s Joint Terrorism Task Force, court records show.

Deputy Jeremy Stinson interviewed Kohfield and his father at their home in April, according to the court documents.

Stinson learned Kohfield had served in the Marines and kept guns in the house. Kohfield told the deputy he would defend himself the next time members of antifa attacked him.

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Nearly four months after the visit, the deputy was notified that Portland police had opened a non-criminal inquiry known as a threat investigation in response to the remarks Kohfield made July 20 at the mayor’s house.

“I can’t say that he won’t kill someone,” Kohfield’s father told Portland police during their investigation, according to court records.

He also told police that his son was taking medication for bipolar disorder, drinking heavily and had become increasingly agitated.

“(Kohfield’s father) provided that Shane was really upset by Portland’s ‘liberal government’ and the state of the federal government,” the court documents read.

Stinson included all these details in a July 25 affidavit seeking an “extreme risk protection order” against Kohfield, which a judge approved the same day.

Such protection orders, introduced in Oregon in 2018, allow authorities to pry guns from people not convicted of a crime who show signs they might shoot themselves or someone else.

Each protection order stands for a year but can be extended indefinitely. Those who have their guns taken away can appeal the decision.

Judges statewide received 122 extreme risk protection order petitions through July 2019 and granted 98 of them, said Phil Lemman, Oregon’s acting deputy state court administrator. Kohfield’s is only the sixth approved in Clackamas County, records show.

According to court documents and Kohfield, law enforcement officers served him with the order on Aug. 7 while he was visiting family in central Oregon.

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It’s not clear why law enforcement waited nearly two weeks to serve the order, but they did so only days after a pair of deadly mass shootings in El Paso, Texas, on Aug. 3 and Dayton, Ohio, the following day.

Kohfield, who was unarmed, said at least a dozen officers stopped him while he was leaving a relative’s home outside Prineville.

Officers said they planned to take Kohfield to the VA hospital in Portland. He said they then served him with the protection order.

“I was told that I didn’t have a choice,” he said. “The cops were great. They were respectful and compassionate.”

Kohfield said he was placed under psychiatric observation for five days. He said that he then volunteered to remain at the VA hospital for another two weeks.

According to Lemman, the state court administrator, Kohfield surrendered an AR-15, a pistol, a rifle and a shotgun.

The ex-Marine said he is done with attending protests or political demonstrations in Portland.

“I have done everything I can possibly do to keep both sides from killing each other,” he said. “As long as they keep duking it out like this, it will achieve nothing.”

https://www.oregonlive.com/news/201...gons-new-red-flag-law-took-his-guns-away.html
 
Cops were respectful and great? He must be white.
 
Cops were respectful and great? He must be white.

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So I'm curious...... based on what he said, if instead he made a comment along the lines of "if someone breaks into my home and shoots my wife, I'm going to kill him. I have a detailed plan on how to do this."

Or maybe something like "if Al Qaeda returns to the United States and kills Americans, I'm going to slaughter them. I have a detailed plan on how to wipe out Al Qaeda."

Or maybe if Erdogan ever comes back and his goons actually killed someone, he said he has a plan to wipe out Erdogan and his goons.

I can understand why the FBI would want to look into the dude, but the first part of the statement is pretty important. "If antifa gets to the point where they start killing us, I’m going to kill them next." So it seems like he's talking about a form of self defense?
 
So I'm curious...... based on what he said, if instead he made a comment along the lines of "if someone breaks into my home and shoots my wife, I'm going to kill him. I have a detailed plan on how to do this."

Or maybe something like "if Al Qaeda returns to the United States and kills Americans, I'm going to slaughter them. I have a detailed plan on how to wipe out Al Qaeda."

Or maybe if Erdogan ever comes back and his goons actually killed someone, he said he has a plan to wipe out Erdogan and his goons.

I can understand why the FBI would want to look into the dude, but the first part of the statement is pretty important. "If antifa gets to the point where they start killing us, I’m going to kill them next." So it seems like he's talking about a form of self defense?

I'm forwarding this post to the FBI.
 
I'm glad to see the military take some responsibility to check his mental health after this incident....step in the right direction.
 
Let’s send some more guys overseas so we’re “protected” at home.
 
So I'm curious...... based on what he said, if instead he made a comment along the lines of "if someone breaks into my home and shoots my wife, I'm going to kill him. I have a detailed plan on how to do this."

Or maybe something like "if Al Qaeda returns to the United States and kills Americans, I'm going to slaughter them. I have a detailed plan on how to wipe out Al Qaeda."

Or maybe if Erdogan ever comes back and his goons actually killed someone, he said he has a plan to wipe out Erdogan and his goons.

I can understand why the FBI would want to look into the dude, but the first part of the statement is pretty important. "If antifa gets to the point where they start killing us, I’m going to kill them next." So it seems like he's talking about a form of self defense?

Context kind of matters you know.
 
Good. This guy is mentally ill and making threats to shoot people, they took his guns, the law is working.
 
So I'm curious...... based on what he said, if instead he made a comment along the lines of "if someone breaks into my home and shoots my wife, I'm going to kill him. I have a detailed plan on how to do this."

Or maybe something like "if Al Qaeda returns to the United States and kills Americans, I'm going to slaughter them. I have a detailed plan on how to wipe out Al Qaeda."

Or maybe if Erdogan ever comes back and his goons actually killed someone, he said he has a plan to wipe out Erdogan and his goons.

I can understand why the FBI would want to look into the dude, but the first part of the statement is pretty important. "If antifa gets to the point where they start killing us, I’m going to kill them next." So it seems like he's talking about a form of self defense?

There was also this:

Kohfield told Crenshaw that Congress needed to take immediate steps to declare antifa a terrorist organization. Otherwise, he and other veterans would have no choice but to begin systematically killing antifa members “until we have achieved genocide.”

That sounds like unhinged violent threats, not "self-defense."
 
On a siderail.... If a Federal agency is going to use Oregon laws against Oregonians, then they should damn well apply our laws, FOR Oregonians. Example? Marijuana. I have a friend that (stupidly) forgot about a proto pipe in their possession, and went into the local SSA office. (And no, she wasn't applying for help. She was getting a duplicate card for work.) She got hammered. Bad. That's some BS right there.....
 
The main trouble with laws like this is, you leave it to fools to judge what is a red flag.

I don't know what fools did the judging, but they seem to have done a very nice job in this instance.

barfo
 
So I'm curious...... based on what he said, if instead he made a comment along the lines of "if someone breaks into my home and shoots my wife, I'm going to kill him. I have a detailed plan on how to do this."

Or maybe something like "if Al Qaeda returns to the United States and kills Americans, I'm going to slaughter them. I have a detailed plan on how to wipe out Al Qaeda."

Or maybe if Erdogan ever comes back and his goons actually killed someone, he said he has a plan to wipe out Erdogan and his goons.

I can understand why the FBI would want to look into the dude, but the first part of the statement is pretty important. "If antifa gets to the point where they start killing us, I’m going to kill them next." So it seems like he's talking about a form of self defense?
Your first scenario is legal.
Your subsequent scenarios are all vigilantism and illegal as hell.
His scenario fits the illegal scenarios you outlined.
 
If antifa gets to the point where they start killing us, I’m going to kill them next,” Kohfield, 32, said.”

By this reasoning, it should be open season on white nationalists. They been killing peeps for a hot minute.

I know some snowflakes get all scared cuz of silly string though. And super scary milkshakes.
 
FIFY

Although you were (please god) joking, right?
It's funny--despite Antifa's name, I've never actually seen any of the groups they oppose show any support for dictatorial power, forcible suppression of opposition, and strong regimentation of society and of the economy. But I guess I just don't know what fascism really is...
 
It's funny--despite Antifa's name, I've never actually seen any of the groups they oppose show any support for dictatorial power, forcible suppression of opposition, and strong regimentation of society and of the economy. But I guess I just don't know what fascism really is...
The definition has shifted a lot in the last 15-20 years which I think causes confusion. Originally it was basically Authoritarian, dictatorship, thought control you almost deify leaders and everyone must follow them. Its still partially that in the west, but its more associated with racism, genocide, and extreme right wing (I guess) ideals.

At least that is how most ANTIFA’s and the left has defined it recently, that is why they call them Nazi’s, they associate it with Hitler, and genocide of the Jews, and eradication as a means to power.

ANTIFA believes that the proud boys, and others on the extreme right reflect those ideals in a somewhat repackaged fashion. Im not sure I agree with that, but I get why they see it that way.
 
Does this mean the FBI will take action against ANTIFA thugs bullying people
In your scenario, that would be the responsibility of the local police.
 
The definition has shifted a lot in the last 15-20 years which I think causes confusion. Originally it was basically Authoritarian, dictatorship, thought control you almost deify leaders and everyone must follow them. Its still partially that in the west, but its more associated with racism, genocide, and extreme right wing (I guess) ideals.

At least that is how most ANTIFA’s and the left has defined it recently, that is why they call them Nazi’s, they associate it with Hitler, and genocide of the Jews, and eradication as a means to power.

ANTIFA believes that the proud boys, and others on the extreme right reflect those ideals in a somewhat repackaged fashion. Im not sure I agree with that, but I get why they see it that way.
Antifa is just a bunch of life’s laziest losers, poorly paid and manipulated by George Soros to create unrest in free societies, intolerance of particular ethnicities, and hatred of designated industries so George can make billions by investing in their genocide and collapse.
They should be arrested for their violent actions and Soros should be treated exactly like his peers, Bin Laden, and Hitler.
 

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