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chris_in_pdx

chris_in_pdx

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Oregon will never be ranked #1. There's too much money out there in the South and the "Elite" for a team like the Ducks to take their precious top spot. Just keep winning. Use the disrespect as motivation. Lay 60 on USC next weekend. Screw those East Coast idiots. I watched that Auburn/LSU game, both teams SUCK. Oregon would woodshed either one of them.

But I ain't mad. Noooooo. Nope. Ducks just keep getting it done on the field. Every Duck game this year has been a blowout. And next week will be no different.
 
Doesn't matter what the Ducks do, the BCS isn't going to give them an even break. According to ESPN, one of the computer rankings doesn't even have the Ducks in the top 5. :crazy:
 
With Margin of Victory being kept out of all the computer formulas, it's going to be difficult to get a team with Oregon's schedule up to now into the top spot. A 1 point win and a 72 point win are the same to the computers. It could be worse, though. They could play in the WAC and never, ever have a chance to play for a title.
 
I don't understand the urgency at this point in the season. Oregon had a lot of season ahead of them. If we deserve #1, we will be.
 
Does it really matter tho? If the season ended today the Ducks would be in the Championship game. Isn't that what you want?
 
Could care less about the rankings at this point. If the ducks win out they are in the NC game.
 
These computers amaze me. 5 of the 6 have Oklahoma ahead of Oregon. 4 of them have LSU ahead of the Ducks. 2 of them have Alabama ahead; 2 others rate Wisconsin higher; and 2 of those 4 also have the Ducks behind Ohio State. For the record, that's a total of 15 computer ranking slots lost to 1-loss teams--an average of 2.5 spots per poll, easily enough to constitute the difference between Oregon and Auburn in today's BCS rankings.

The fact that all these 1-loss teams are getting higher rankings than Oregon just seems ludicrous to me.

ppilot said:
Could care less about the rankings at this point. If the ducks win out they are in the NC game.
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chris_in_pdx said:
I wouldn't be so sure about that.
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I think the fact that Missouri and Michigan State are both solidly ahead of UO in the computers support your concern.
 
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What it boils down to is a complete disrespect for Pac 10 schools. The reason why our SOS is so low is because the east coast have NEVER respected the Pac 10.
 
ppilot said:
No other team has the strength of schedule to jump us with Oklahoma losing
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Mizzou does if Oklahoma keeps winning. Michigan State does if Wisconsin keeps winning. Hell, Alabama might if they beat Auburn in the SEC title game. Never underestimate the ability of the BCS to manipulate the numbers to fuck a Pac-10 team.
 
chris_in_pdx said:
Mizzou does if Oklahoma keeps winning. Michigan State does if Wisconsin keeps winning. Hell, Alabama might if they beat Auburn in the SEC title game. Never underestimate the ability of the BCS to manipulate the numbers to fuck a Pac-10 team.
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2001 all over again.
 
Then you all better pray that Stanford keeps on winning, and Arizona prior to Oregon's game against them except when playing Stanford. It wouldn't be too bad for Oregon to let Auburn keep that target on their backs if they could maintain #2. The Ducks might have a bit of a chip on their shoulder if they believe they're getting slighted.

Let's look at SoS for teams with no losses or one loss, with games that could knock another team from the chase:

1. Auburn - The rest of their schedule is weak until Alabama the last game. Potential conference championship game. Beat Mississippi State, South Carolina, Arkansas, and LSU. Knockout game with Alabama. Potential threat.
2. Oregon - Plays USC, Cal, and Arizona. No conference championship game. Beat Stanford. Knockout game with Arizona.
3. Boise State - Plays Nevada, but the rest of their schedule is going drag them down. No conference championship game. Beat Virginia Tech. Knockout game with Nevada. Not a threat.
4. TCU - Plays Utah. Their other three games are also going to drag them down. No conference championship game. Beat Baylor. Knockout game with Utah. Not a threat.
5. Michigan State - Plays Iowa. The other three games, again, are going to drag them down. No conference championship game. Beat Wisconsin. Not much of a threat.
6. Missouri - Plays Nebraska and Kansas State. Potential conference championship game. Beat Oklahoma. Knockout game with Nebraska. Potential threat.
7. Alabama - Plays LSU, Mississippi State, and Auburn. Potential conference championship game. Beat Arkansas and Florida. Knockout game with Auburn and LSU. Potential threat.
8. Utah - Plays TCU. Their other four games will drag them down. No conference championship. Has beaten nobody. Knockout game with TCU. Not a threat.
9. Oklahoma - Plays Baylor and Oklahoma State. Potential conference championship game. Beat Florida State. Knockout game with Oklahoma State. Potential threat.
10. Wisconsin - Plays nobody else that will help them enough to start leapfrogging teams. No conference championship game. Beat Ohio State. Not much of a threat.
11. Ohio State - Plays Iowa. No conference championship game. Beat Miami. Not much of a threat.
12. LSU - Plays Alabama and Arkansas. Potential conference championship game. Beat Mississippi State and Florida. Knockout game with Alabama. Potential threat.
13. Stanford - Plays Arizona and Cal. No conference championship game. Beat USC. Knockout game with Arizona. Not a threat.
14. Nebraska - Plays Missouri. Potential conference championship game. Beat Kansas State and Oklahoma State. Knockout game with Missouri. Potential threat.
15. Arizona - Plays Stanford, USC, and Oregon. No conference championship game. Beat Cal. Knockout game with Stanford and Oregon. Potential threat.
16. Florida State - Plays North Carolina State. Potential conference championship game. Beat Miami. Not a threat.
17. Oklahoma State - Plays Kansas State, Baylor, and Oklahoma. Potential conference championship game. Has beaten nobody. Knockout game with Oklahoma. Potential Threat.
24. Nevada - Plays Boise State. Weak schedule. A non-BCS school with one loss has no shot. No conference championship game. Beat Cal. Knockout game with Boise State. Not a threat.

Everyone else has two losses or more. There are some threats, I list eight here, but all eight of them have to knock each other out. The worst case scenario with Oregon winning out (in my opinion) is that Alabama loses to both Auburn and LSU who both win out, one winning the SEC championship, the other just sitting around as a one-loss team. The Oklahoma/Oklahoma State winner wins out and faces the Nebraska/Missouri winner (who wins out) in the Big XII championship, and beats the other leaving one team. Would be worse if Missouri was undefeated. So the worst case scenario is that I have three teams who could challenge Oregon for a top two spot. But I don't think LSU leapfrogs Oregon as a one-loss team. So that leaves me with the SEC champion and the Big XII champion. Could Oregon finish behind both? Maybe. If they're both Auburn and Missouri then it could be the most dangerous for Oregon, but I think Oregon can top Missouri in the standings if both are undefeated.
 
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Everyone else has two losses or more. There are some threats, I list eight here, but all eight of them have to knock each other out. The worst case scenario with Oregon winning out (in my opinion) is that Alabama loses to both Auburn and LSU who both win out, one winning the SEC championship, the other just sitting around as a one-loss team. The Oklahoma/Oklahoma State winner wins out and faces the Nebraska/Missouri winner (who wins out) in the Big XII championship, and beats the other leaving one team. Would be worse if Missouri was undefeated. So the worst case scenario is that I have three teams who could challenge Oregon for a top two spot. But I don't think LSU leapfrogs Oregon as a one-loss team. So that leaves me with the SEC champion and the Big XII champion. Could Oregon finish behind both? Maybe. If they're both Auburn and Missouri then it could be the most dangerous for Oregon, but I think Oregon can top Missouri in the standings if both are undefeated.
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If Missouri wins out, they'll be ahead of the Ducks in the computers. If Auburn and LSU win out, they'll both be ahead of Oregon in the computers. If MSU goes undefeated, they'll be ahead of Oregon in most of the computers. TCU could remain ahead of Oregon in some of the rankings, too.

For Oregon to get passed in the BCS standings, all that has to happen is for them to finish around 5th-6th in the computers, and Auburn and Missouri to be 1-2 in the computers and a solid 2-3 in the polls. Could happen.
 
Computers aren't all that important since Oregon is #1 in Harris and Coaches. A team would have to be about 5-6 spots ahead in the computers to jump us, and with our schedule getting tougher now, i don't see that happening.

If we win next week, just that USC game will boost our comp. rankings. I personally think that it will be Oregon vs. an SEC team. Either Auburn goes undefeated, or Alabama gets in the #2 slot (and we move up to #1) because they beat LSU, Auburn, and the SEC championship game.

I don't see MSU or Mizzou as a real threat. Def. not MSU because they only have one game left worth a crap (Iowa who has 2 losses). That won't get them high enough in the computers/polls to pass us.
 
MrJayremmie said:
Computers aren't all that important since Oregon is #1 in Harris and Coaches. A team would have to be about 5-6 spots ahead in the computers to jump us, and with our schedule getting tougher now, i don't see that happening.
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Remember though, it's not all about "position" in the polls; it's percentage of available points. Right now, Oregon is getting about 80% of the #1 votes, but will that continue to be the case? If Auburn runs through the SEC, you don't think they'll take some of Oregon's votes? If Missouri beats Oklahoma and Nebraska in consecutive weeks, you don't think some voters will elevate them above Oregon?

Just as much as being #2 in the BCS means little right now, being a solid #1 in the polls doesn't mean a ton in October either.
 
You guys cant be serious right? The ducks have played one good pac-10 team, Stanford.

Wait till they play USC, Cal, Arizona, OrSt. There is NO WAY that the ducks will NOT be in the NC game if they go undefeated
 
Oregon doesn't have near the SOS that Auburn does at this point. Regardless if they are winining by 1 or 100 points, Auburn is beating better teams than Oregon is.
 
OSUBlazerfan said:
You guys cant be serious right? The ducks have played one good pac-10 team, Stanford.

Wait till they play USC, Cal, Arizona, OrSt. There is NO WAY that the ducks will NOT be in the NC game if they go undefeated
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Sorry, but we're just a tiny bit paranoid. Do you blame us?
 
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