Gangs in the Military

[Mamba]

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This is just scary.

 

[Chutney]

Well, the military's kind of brought this upon themselves. What areas do their recruiters most heavily target? What kind of people do they target? These are things that could be predicted if they weren't so preoccupied with replacing all the dying soldiers.

 

[Voodoo Child]

<div class="quote_poster">Chutney Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">Well, the military's kind of brought this upon themselves. What areas do their recruiters most heavily target? What kind of people do they target? These are things that could be predicted if they weren't so preoccupied with replacing all the dying soldiers.</div>

Who would you rather they try to target? The upper-class kids with college aspirations? No way in hell would those kids ditch their futures for Iraq.

The way to fix it would just be better screening of recruits for possible gang affiliations.

Good find though.

 

[Chutney]

No, I mean not only do they target poorer areas. But they recruit kids that have no direction or have had problems in the past, because they have very little to lose. I didn't intend to blame the military, so much as the fact that they can't afford to really screen anyone anymore. The need for troops has become that bad.

 

[Mamba]

Yeah, my Criminal Justice professor told us to watch it. It's really interesting, and to be honest, it's a brilliant move on the gang members part.

Like you said about screening for gang affiliation, I'm shocked that the military didn't catch this earlier.

 

[NJNetz]

That is some scary stuff. Brilliant move on the gang members' part, but a huge danger towards normal civilians.

So the military doesn't really do a background check on the soldiers?

People don't mind if they get send to Iraq, but if they manage to survive, and know the techniques, that's when the problem begins.

 

[phunDamentalz]

<div class="quote_poster">Mercury Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">Brilliant move on the gang members' part</div>let's not congratulate the biggest slime on this planet - gangmembers/Mafia/drugdealers

 

[NJNetz]

<div class="quote_poster">phunDamentalz Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">let's not congratulate the biggest slime on this planet - gangmembers/Mafia/drugdealers</div>



I'm not happy with what I learned, but you can't deny that it is a smart move on their part.

 

[phunDamentalz]

<div class="quote_poster">Mercury Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">I'm not happy with what I learned, but you can't deny that it is a smart move on their part.</div>

it's not like they're geniuses or anything.
most gangmembers are two things - dumb and sociopathic

 

[Mamba]

I'm not congratulating anyone, but for people who are stereotyped as morons and idiots, it's a brilliant move on their part.

Personally, I think it's disgusting. I'm upset that the military didn't catch these gang affiliations, or if they did, didn't give a damn about it.

 

[NJNetz]

<div class="quote_poster">phunDamentalz Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">it's not like they're geniuses or anything.
most gangmembers are two things - dumb and sociopathic</div>


I didn't say they were geniuses at all, but joining the military helps improve their skill in combat.

They get taught by the best, and end up screwing them over, by using the techniques they learned against them.

That is why I find it to be a smart move. Negative but still smart.

Don't think for one moment that I support them either.

 

[phunDamentalz]

I hate gangmembers man.
As much as I think profiling is bad, when you look at what these idiots do over some stupid sh*t, I wouldn't be opposed to making it legal for cops to arrest anyone with a gang tattoo or a gang rag for just walking down the street.

 

[phunDamentalz]

<div class="quote_poster">Mercury Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">I didn't say they were geniuses at all, but joining the military helps improve their skill in combat.

They get taught by the best, and end up screwing them over, by using the techniques they learned against them.

That is why I find it to be a smart move. Negative but still smart.</div>
true but in that case Al Qaeda and 9/11 was on some genius sh*t.

 

[Voodoo Child]

<div class="quote_poster">phunDamentalz Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">let's not congratulate the biggest slime on this planet - gangmembers/Mafia/drugdealers</div>

Not to go on an off-topic tangent, but how can you lump drugdealers in with Mafia members?

 

[phunDamentalz]

<div class="quote_poster">Voodoo Child Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">Not to go on an off-topic tangent, but how can you lump drugdealers in with Mafia members?</div>

organized crime? it's the same thing.

 

[Voodoo Child]

<div class="quote_poster">phunDamentalz Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">organized crime? it's the same thing.</div>

It's nonviolent organized crime. It's totally different.

 

[Mamba]

By drug dealers, I think he means the drug lords. The Arellano-Felix brothers, Pablo Escobar, and others. The ruthless, murdering scums of the earth.

 

[phunDamentalz]

<div class="quote_poster">Voodoo Child Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">It's nonviolent organized crime. It's totally different.</div>

Yeah what mamba said.don't worry I'm not including the college weed dealer although I do think if you're not a part of the solution you're part of the problem. I would not put the college weed dealer at the same level of a drug lord or a gang leader in terms of scumbag factor but I have no respect for anyone who sells drugs of any kind. harsh but that's it. I lost respect for an actor I knew who admitted he sold crack when he was in college to get by. from that day on I viewed the guy as having no integrity

 

[Voodoo Child]

<div class="quote_poster">phunDamentalz Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">Yeah what mamba said.don't worry I'm not including the college weed dealer although I do think if you're not a part of the solution you're part of the problem</div>

Lol, yeah, I figured that's what you were talking about. I just get really defensive when people talk about drugs for some reason.

(Which is not really uncalled for, because someone has to let people know how harmless [and even helpful] drugs can be.)

 

[Voodoo Child]

<div class="quote_poster">phunDamentalz Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">Yeah what mamba said.don't worry I'm not including the college weed dealer although I do think if you're not a part of the solution you're part of the problem. I would not put the college weed dealer at the same level of a drug lord or a gang leader in terms of scumbag factor but I have no respect for anyone who sells drugs of any kind. harsh but that's it. I lost respect for an actor I knew who admitted he sold crack when he was in college to get by. from that day on I viewed the guy as having no integrity</div>

Wait a minute. I was with you up until you edited your post to include that bold part. That's really shallow and spoken out of inexperience. Drugs are not harmful in the slightest and can actually be used to the benefit of society.

<font color=""Red"">BTW - If you want to continue this discussion, PM me. Otherwise, it's going off-topic, my fault.</font>

 

[NTC]

lmao @ the Blood and Crip tags up in downtown Baghdad.

On a serious note, I agree with Mercury and Mamba, It's a very smart move on Gang Members parts, free combat training for the mean streets of America, gives you an advantage over your average 'shoot up anything' gang banger.

That said, It's also very scary, to think these kind of animals are abusing the Military like this. The government doesnt care, so long as Bush has 20,000 more men to send over there.

 

[MainMan]

<div class="quote_poster">phunDamentalz Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">I wouldn't be opposed to making it legal for cops to arrest anyone with a gang tattoo or a gang rag for just walking down the street.</div>


This tells me we need more officers and police than soliders.. If these gangs are so dangerous why havent we stopped them in our own country? we need to focus whats happening in our backyard than whats happening in the middle east.

 

[Mamba]

We'll never be able to stop gangs, just like we'll never be able to stop terrorism. If we bring down one gang, another one will rise. What we need to do is deny access to the military for any earth walking scum that decides they're a gang member and have gang affiliations.

 

[Karma]

I really do hate Fox News. I guess this was an intruiging peice but I don't know why, that reporter just plained annoyed me.

"Here is a footage of gang members throwing gang signs and listening to gangster rap"

 

[Pgballer17]

Yeah, Fox News digusts me. So does the fact for all Bush's rhetoric this is a rich mans war being fought by the those who are definitly not priviledged.

 

[Notorious]

<div class="quote_poster">Karma Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">I really do hate Fox News. I guess this was an intruiging peice but I don't know why, that reporter just plained annoyed me.

"Here is a footage of gang members throwing gang signs and listening to gangster rap"</div>

Yeah, at 4:23. I dont like Fox News either.

 

[B.e.]

<div class="quote_poster">Mamba Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">We'll never be able to stop gangs, just like we'll never be able to stop terrorism. If we bring down one gang, another one will rise. What we need to do is deny access to the military for any earth walking scum that decides they're a gang member and have gang affiliations.</div>

But how do you know who is a gang member and who is not? Plus can the marines and army even afford to turn down people who are actually volunteering to go to Iraq? Not to mention what if a gang member wants to get straight, and decided to enter the military to actually serve the country. How would anybody be able to tell?

 

[Mamba]

Honestly, I don't know how hard (or easy) it would be to do a background check for gang affiliations, I don't have an answer for you.

You do make a valid point, with Bush sending even more troops over, there is no way the military can say no. It's a damn shame.