Gerald Wallace hurt bad.... with link

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MIXUM- now that the Lakers have lost to the Bobcats, does that mean they won't sniff the playoffs?
 
That sucks for Wallace. That was a cheap shot and I suspect that he will get 1 game for that and a nice fine. The karma was that the Lackers got beat in their house!
 
the lakers have 30+ wins and 9 losses.

blazers have 27 and 17 losses...id say theres a difference?


and they murdered us twice dude
 
Damn, I feel for Crash. he plays with so much heart, but his body can only take so much, then you get cheap shotted like that...
I wish he was only out for our game, but he looks to be out for a while..I would still trade for him too
 
the lakers have 30+ wins and 9 losses.

blazers have 27 and 17 losses...id say theres a difference?


and they murdered us twice dude

But we're in 5th place and 22 teams in the league have a worse record than us so you should give us a little more respect than you do. One bad win to a good Bobcats team shouldn't discount that. After all, it was the Jazz who got blown out by the Thunder. They should miss the playoffs before we do.
 
holy crap...on the local broadcast there was a mic right by where he fell and you could just hear him loudly moaning in agony.

I dont know what to think about this in terms of the ACTUAL intentions of Bynum. I saw it twice and it seemed like Bynum was going for a rather intentional foul to stop the drive to the hoop. By the rule its absolutely a flagrant because intent has nothing to do with it and Bynum wasnt making a play for the ball really. Both players were moving towards each other which made it worse.

Bynum will probably get suspended a game which I can deal with but I dont think he honestly wanted to injure Wallace
 
I'd still trade for G-Wallace hurt.

if your trading for a hurt g wallace and its a broken rib or even a bruised rib (didnt see the fall but by the looks of post from the newspaper he at least bruised it) hes most likely not going to play the rest of the season your going to be trading him for next season and pray that he still holds to what hes been doing this year. although i wouldnt mind trading for him as it might free up that log jam a little.

from personal experience i have cracked ribs right now its not too bad just walking around i dont think mines very severe like this might be but i know from playing a little bit of basketball with my friends if i run into a screen i have to take a minute to shake off the pain to my ribs.
 
But we're in 5th place and 22 teams in the league have a worse record than us so you should give us a little more respect than you do. One bad win to a good Bobcats team shouldn't discount that. After all, it was the Jazz who got blown out by the Thunder. They should miss the playoffs before we do.

Don't waste your breathe, Eric. I'm sure you've got better things to do.
 
if your trading for a hurt g wallace and its a broken rib or even a bruised rib (didnt see the fall but by the looks of post from the newspaper he at least bruised it) hes most likely not going to play the rest of the season your going to be trading him for next season and pray that he still holds to what hes been doing this year. although i wouldnt mind trading for him as it might free up that log jam a little.

Yeah, I'd trade for him even if were going to miss the rest of this season, so long as it was a relatively normal injury, one that shouldn't be career-altering or have a high likelihood of complications.

Of course, the price would have to be lower due to the injury.
 
That sucks. I've enjoyed Gerald Wallace ever since he was on Sacramento. I'm sure he'll recover, but just mark it down as another injury...he's had way more than enough to get the tag of injury prone. I think it was a pipe dream that we'd get him anyways.

To be honest, I think we MIGHT make a move with RLEC, but if we're making a big roster move to acquire a very good caliber player, I think it will be in the off-season in something like a draft-day trade. Granger won't be moved and I don't think that Butler will be either. I have no interest in Josh Howard, and my interest in Richard Jefferson goes down every day that he gets older. Mike Miller has been horrible this season. I don't think Hedo is going anywhere given his contract and the success of their team. Deng can't shoot from outside. Gay isn't getting out of Memphis that easily. Carmelo is a thug. Dunleavey Jr. can't play defense. Maggette is poor from outside and rocks the Curry Line. Lakers will lock up Trevor Ariza soon. Marion has an attitude. So does Vince Carter. And Artest. McGrady can't stay healthy. Battier isn't much of an upgrade at this point. Peja is 53 years old. SJax wouldn't be bad but he's a chucker.

I don't know about Wallace. Given his injury history and Bobcat's being a thrifty franchise, they may move him to reduce salary for cheaper parts. But are you willing to give up TO and Bayless to get him back? I'm not so sure about that one, because I think that Bayless is the PG for the next long span and he was a steal to be able to essentially get him at pick #13.

Tell me. Who do you want that you think we can reasonably acquire and for how much. I would be down for Wallace despite his poor outside shooting depending on not giving up Bayless or Rudy (or Batum, Roy, LMA, Oden and Pryz).

We have a close to complete team. We're missing an SF so we're doing it by committee. Someone needs to step up between Webster, Batum and Outlaw. I think Batum will be there one day. But that's not good enough for the next two years. If that means taking someone like Richard Jefferson (now that Redd is out they might be willing) then okay.

Ideally we grab Gay, Granger, or Butler. Maybe take a chance that Trevor Ariza will work out (I knew that was a steal of a trade for LAL!). As you can see, I'm not too big on a lot of the players left out there. Anyhow...this post is too long. :dunno:
 
That sucks. I've enjoyed Gerald Wallace ever since he was on Sacramento. I'm sure he'll recover, but just mark it down as another injury...he's had way more than enough to get the tag of injury prone. I think it was a pipe dream that we'd get him anyways.

To be honest, I think we MIGHT make a move with RLEC, but if we're making a big roster move to acquire a very good caliber player, I think it will be in the off-season in something like a draft-day trade. Granger won't be moved and I don't think that Butler will be either. I have no interest in Josh Howard, and my interest in Richard Jefferson goes down every day that he gets older. Mike Miller has been horrible this season. I don't think Hedo is going anywhere given his contract and the success of their team. Deng can't shoot from outside. Gay isn't getting out of Memphis that easily. Carmelo is a thug. Dunleavey Jr. can't play defense. Maggette is poor from outside and rocks the Curry Line. Lakers will lock up Trevor Ariza soon. Marion has an attitude. So does Vince Carter. And Artest. McGrady can't stay healthy. Battier isn't much of an upgrade at this point. Peja is 53 years old. SJax wouldn't be bad but he's a chucker.

I don't know about Wallace. Given his injury history and Bobcat's being a thrifty franchise, they may move him to reduce salary for cheaper parts. But are you willing to give up TO and Bayless to get him back? I'm not so sure about that one, because I think that Bayless is the PG for the next long span and he was a steal to be able to essentially get him at pick #13.

Tell me. Who do you want that you think we can reasonably acquire and for how much. I would be down for Wallace despite his poor outside shooting depending on not giving up Bayless or Rudy (or Batum, Roy, LMA, Oden and Pryz).

We have a close to complete team. We're missing an SF so we're doing it by committee. Someone needs to step up between Webster, Batum and Outlaw. I think Batum will be there one day. But that's not good enough for the next two years. If that means taking someone like Richard Jefferson (now that Redd is out they might be willing) then okay.

Ideally we grab Gay, Granger, or Butler. Maybe take a chance that Trevor Ariza will work out (I knew that was a steal of a trade for LAL!). As you can see, I'm not too big on a lot of the players left out there. Anyhow...this post is too long. :dunno:

You have some really high standards there....
 
holy crap...on the local broadcast there was a mic right by where he fell and you could just hear him loudly moaning in agony.

I dont know what to think about this in terms of the ACTUAL intentions of Bynum. I saw it twice and it seemed like Bynum was going for a rather intentional foul to stop the drive to the hoop. By the rule its absolutely a flagrant because intent has nothing to do with it and Bynum wasnt making a play for the ball really. Both players were moving towards each other which made it worse.

Bynum will probably get suspended a game which I can deal with but I dont think he honestly wanted to injure Wallace
When a player commits an intentional foul that seriously injures someone, they should miss significant action to deter that sort of BS dirty play. A one game suspension is a joke... this isn't football.

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Damn, thats too bad for Wallace. I haven't seen the clip so i will refrain from bashing Bynum as of right now.
 
When a player commits an intentional foul that seriously injures someone, they should miss significant action to deter that sort of BS dirty play. A one game suspension is a joke... this isn't football.

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Maybe two but I honestly dont think so. IMO there was no attempt to injure.

To back my argument I offer the TJ Ford case

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Al Horford got a one game suspension.

Now if you want to argue that players should be suspended longer for these types of incidents thats for another thread, but basing it on what the NBA has done before this warrants a one game suspension
 
Here is video of the play. start at 50 seconds

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I saw another angle that is better but cant find video of it
 
My God. You can hear him writhing in pain.

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Elbow to the ribcage when Wallace is in such a vulnerable position? Dick move by Bynum regardless of whether or not he really wanted to injure Gerald.
 
My God. You can hear him writhing in pain.

Yeah...that was gnarly when I first heard him doing that. Im bummed for him :sigh:

I think the best view is the replay at the 50sec mark.

Obvious flagrant but IMO Bynum wasnt intentionally putting an elbow into his side, just a hard foul on somebody who was about to get a free dunk late in the game. The elbow just happened. :dunno:
 
My God. You can hear him writhing in pain.



Elbow to the ribcage when Wallace is in such a vulnerable position? Dick move by Bynum regardless of whether or not he really wanted to injure Gerald.


I may be biased, but there certainly doesn't appear to be a whole lot of intent of going after the ball on Bynum's behalf.

Fortunately Bynum didn't foul Wallace with blatant aggression, so his punishment should be limited. My guess is he will get 1-3 games with a fine for the foul, along with a growing reputation for throwing dirty hits on higher-profile players on opposing teams.
 
Doesn't look like he was intending to hurt Wallace. It's not a great angle though.
 
Why did Bynum use the elbow part of his arm, why not his arms outstretched? Even if Bynum had used his arms outstretched and hitting Wallace in the face it wouldn't be a fragrant foul. Its kindof a weird motion to foul the guy.
 
My take is Bynum was definitely trying to foul hard, but that's basketball. It was flagrant for sure. I don't think it was a cheap shot tho, Bynum was trying to not hurt himself in the process.
 
holy crap...on the local broadcast there was a mic right by where he fell and you could just hear him loudly moaning in agony.

I dont know what to think about this in terms of the ACTUAL intentions of Bynum. I saw it twice and it seemed like Bynum was going for a rather intentional foul to stop the drive to the hoop. By the rule its absolutely a flagrant because intent has nothing to do with it and Bynum wasnt making a play for the ball really. Both players were moving towards each other which made it worse.

Bynum will probably get suspended a game which I can deal with but I dont think he honestly wanted to injure Wallace

Yeah, I agree w/ this man.
 

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