Getting rid of Miller will be hard

[Rastapopoulos]

If, as I remember seeing somewhere, opposing GMs are right to think that the Blazers never intended to keep Miller but signed him just to have a chip to trade, and also if, he's not going to be happy here, we're going to want to trade him. But to whom? The trouble is that most of the league either has a young PG who they'll want to see more of or is wanting to dump salary, or both. The team most in need of a PG is probably the Sixers, and they let Miller go in the first place.

There's a reason he was available to be signed in the first place.

Does this mean he's a bad player? No, he's still a very good player - no Iverson/Marbury/Steve Francis he. But there just might not be a place for him in this bad economy. Let's hope he can realize that and throw himself into being the best bench player he can be.

 

[PapaG]

If, as I remember seeing somewhere, opposing GMs are right to think that the Blazers never intended to keep Miller but signed him just to have a chip to trade, and also if, he's not going to be happy here, we're going to want to trade him. But to whom? The trouble is that most of the league either has a young PG who they'll want to see more of or is wanting to dump salary, or both. The team most in need of a PG is probably the Sixers, and they let Miller go in the first place.

There's a reason he was available to be signed in the first place.

Does this mean he's a bad player? No, he's still a very good player - no Iverson/Marbury/Steve Francis he. But there just might not be a place for him in this bad economy. Let's hope he can realize that and throw himself into being the best bench player he can be.

Miller is extemely overpaid and has no track record of success in terms of winning in the playoffs. He is on his 5th team in 11 seasons, yet he's one of the top ten PGs during that time frame statistically. That's a red flag. He wears out his welcome, or so it appears on a cursory look.

He's here for the next year and a half, IMO. What is the upside for any team taking him on at this point, considering he is 33 years-old and has been benched in Portland while getting $7 million/per?

 

[Nikolokolus]

Hard to move? I doubt it. Hard to move and actually get a really nice player in return? Yeah that might be tough.

He has a couple of positives going for him, he's probably got the potential to once again by a pretty highly efficient player in an uptempo team (the Knicks were reportedly interested in him, but not his ten million dollar per year contract demands). He'd probably be a good fit for a team that doesn't feature a ball dominant wing player, but instead features guards and wings that like to score and shoot.

I won't pretend to know which GMs might have an interest in him, but his contract isn't horrible (thank God KP kept it down to two guaranteed years and only about 7 million per.) and he's shown himself to be a highly productive player in the right system. But if we're talking trade don't get too carried away thinking all-stars or former all-stars, it would probably be for nothing more than a role player if it was a straight swap. If you are thinking bigger, then KP is going to have to package Miller along with at least one or two intriguing prospects to get real value back.

 

[1 Eye Jack]

Some potential playoff team is 1 injury away from making Miller very valuable. Miller's contract also allows us to combine him with another small contract/very talented player (Rudy , Bayless) to get something damn good in return. Again I'm disappointed it hasn't worked with Roy and Miller but it does nothing to our championship hopes.

 

[Nikolokolus]

Some potential playoff team is 1 injury away from making Miller very valuable. Miller's contract also allows us to combine him with another small contract/very talented player (Rudy , Bayless) to get something damn good in return. Again I'm disappointed it hasn't worked with Roy and Miller but it does nothing to our championship hopes.

One wonders if the Magic would be interested. Who do they have that we would want (Micheal Pietrus)? I have no idea. But I think you could add them to that list, the way Nelson seems to go down all the time.

 

[B-Roy]

One wonders if the Magic would be interested. Who do they have that we would want (Micheal Pietrus)? I have no idea. But I think you could add them to that list, the way Nelson seems to go down all the time.

Bass+Barnes for Miller/Mills

Though I doubt they do it.

 

[Kaydow]

One wonders if the Magic would be interested. Who do they have that we would want (Micheal Pietrus)? I have no idea. But I think you could add them to that list, the way Nelson seems to go down all the time.

I was thinking the same thing. But what if Blake goes down? Then you are stuck with JB and . . . ??

 

[Nikolokolus]

Bass+Barnes for Miller/Mills

Though I doubt they do it.

I'd do that in a heartbeat -- which helps explain why they wouldn't

 

[Nikolokolus]

I was thinking the same thing. But what if Blake goes down? Then you are stuck with JB and . . . ??

Roy?

 

[B-Roy]

Roy?

No we have Patty "Chris Paul" Mills.

 

[1 Eye Jack]

IMO- teams that are struggling like Washington (Butler), Charlotte (G.Wallace), and Memphis (Gay) might consider dumping a good player if they can get a player with a shorter contract and some high potential players back in return.

 

[cdub503]

IMO- teams that are struggling like Washington (Butler), Charlotte (G.Wallace), and Memphis (Gay) might consider dumping a good player if they can get a player with a shorter contract and some high potential players back in return.

wizards have arenas i doubt that happens least with miller, memphis has conley which they seem to like somewhat, i could see charoltte but im not really sure if they would give up Gwallace for Miller and (insert rookie/sophmore)

 

[PapaG]

In other words, Miller can't be traded for equal value.

A bad signing by KP, IMO, and benching him even though he ate up cap space seeemingly validates my POV.

 

[barfo]

I was thinking the same thing. But what if Blake goes down? Then you are stuck with JB and . . . ??

If Blake goes down, we play 4 on 5, as there is no other point guard that can play with Roy. Better to just leave the spot open than to play someone who will require adjustment from Roy.

barfo

 

[1 Eye Jack]

If Blake goes down, we play 4 on 5, as there is no other point guard that can play with Roy. Better to just leave the spot open than to play someone who will require adjustment from Roy.

barfo

Give me a f-ing brake. I have yet to see a quote that said Roy refused to play with Miller. As far as I can tell Roy wanted to go back to playing SG which left Nate with a choice of PG's. He chose Blake big surprise........!

 

[Ed O]

Give me a f-ing brake. I have yet to see a quote that said Roy refused to play with Miller. As far as I can tell Roy wanted to go back to playing SG which left Nate with a choice of PG's. He chose Blake big surprise........!

Roy shouldn't have to adjust his actions (e.g., through communication) to make you know his true feelings.

Ed O.

 

[1 Eye Jack]

Roy shouldn't have to adjust his actions (e.g., through communication) to make you know his true feelings.

Ed O.

Not sure what you mean. My assumption is, I should assume because Miller is no longer starting that it Roy's fault? I don't buy it, in my opinion it was more about going back to his natural position (SG) and Nate chose his PG to team with Roy. Something else to consider is Nates love affair with making sure that the two units are balanced instead of playing the best 5 players together.

 

[1 Eye Jack]

What about trading Blake and Webster for Hinrich? Gives Chicago an expiring contract and good young player. Gives us an upgrade at PG that fits better with Roy. Hinrich is a tenacious defender who can help keep perimeter guys from getting our bigs in foul trouble. Then we use Miller to get a SF?

 

[Nikolokolus]

What about trading Blake and Webster for Hinrich? Gives Chicago an expiring contract and good young player. Gives us an upgrade at PG that fits better with Roy. Hinrich is a tenacious defender who can help keep perimeter guys from getting our bigs in foul trouble. Then we use Miller to get a SF?

And then ... We have Hinrich and Miller and no small forward at all? Yikes.

 

[1 Eye Jack]

And then ... We have Hinrich and Miller and no small forward at all? Yikes.

Hey, I didn't say it was flawless, lol. I think we then complete another trade Miller and? for a SF.

 

[Idog1976]

And then ... We have Hinrich and Miller and no small forward at all? Yikes.

Yeah you would have to pull it off in one deal, which could include multiple teams. That way you solve both problems at once. Otherwise it would be far too risky to go down to 0 true small forwards. I for one am hoping that Martell just needs to start to play well.

 

[CelticKing]

Why would you move him so fast? Wait till at least January is over.

 

[Public Defender]

Why would you move him so fast? Wait till at least January is over.

Thank you!

Andre Miller is a very good point guard who is less than 1/4 of his way into a new system, on a new team with extremely high expectations, in a very different conference.

I would rather Miller start, frankly, and adjust to playing off the ball a little more. Miller has to realize that his best chance at a championship before the end of his career may well be in Portland in a few years. That could mean playing off the bench, or adjusting to a different kind of point guard role than what he's used to. But Miller is a hard-working player, one of the smartest guys in the league, and as every player who I've heard interviewed is apparently a "consummate pro." Makes me think he can probably learn to play with Brandon Roy, if that's what's expected of him.

Give the guy some time to adjust. If that comes off the bench, then fine. But give an All-Star like Miller a little benefit of the doubt that he can adjust.

 

[B-Roy]

Give the guy some time to adjust. If that comes off the bench, then fine. But give an All-Star like Miller a little benefit of the doubt that he can adjust.

When has Miller been an all-star?

 

[Nikolokolus]

Why would you move him so fast? Wait till at least January is over.

I'd certainly be in no hurry to move him, but the way Nate is using him (by not using him mainly) pretty much has shown me exactly what I feared when they signed him; he's not going to be allowed to play his style of game and after the fifteenth he's probably more valuable in trade than he is as a player on this roster.

It's extremely frustrating to say the least.

 

[1 Eye Jack]

I sure wish we could land G. Wallace. A player that doesn't have to have shots to be effective, diverse enough to play multiple positions and a hustle player.

 

[Natebishop3]

I think it's hilarious that Miller is back on the bench, while Blake has been allowed to suck it up all year.

 

[Nikolokolus]

I think it's hilarious that Miller is back on the bench, while Blake has been allowed to suck it up all year.

Yeah. That bums me out.

 

[LOTBfan]

When has Miller been an all-star?

2000 and 2001

 

[B-Roy]

2000 and 2001

I think you might want to check your source...