Give up on Chris Paul!

[Rastapopoulos]

The cap being higher than expected was the deathblow to any hope of getting Chris Paul. The Hornets are now very safely below luxury tax-paying land. And Shinn wants to sell the team. Gee, what Hornets team is worth more, a team with Chris Paul or without? Who was it just calculated that the Cavs lost $100M in value when they lost LeBron James?

 

[barfo]

The cap being higher than expected was the deathblow to any hope of getting Chris Paul. The Hornets are now very safely below luxury tax-paying land. And Shinn wants to sell the team. Gee, what Hornets team is worth more, a team with Chris Paul or without? Who was it just calculated that the Cavs lost $100M in value when they lost LeBron James?

Makes sense. But one of Paul and Collison should go if the Hornets are rational, so if it isn't Paul it is Collison. Still an interesting target.

barfo

 

[RoyToy]

The cap being higher than expected was the deathblow to any hope of getting Chris Paul. The Hornets are now very safely below luxury tax-paying land. And Shinn wants to sell the team. Gee, what Hornets team is worth more, a team with Chris Paul or without? Who was it just calculated that the Cavs lost $100M in value when they lost LeBron James?

So couldn't the new owner buy the team for $100M less?

 

[OSUBlazerfan]

Never

 

[PHXBlazer1]

No.

 

[Rastapopoulos]

Here's another reason to give up: Chris Paul today dumped Octagon and signed up with LeBron James' agency. Hmmm. Now, if HE joins the Heat in a couple of years...

 

[B-Roy]

So couldn't the new owner buy the team for $100M less?

The person reportedly buying the Hornets is a Billionaire. I don't think $100M + No CP3 is going to entice him.

 

[Idog1976]

The cap being higher than expected was the deathblow to any hope of getting Chris Paul. The Hornets are now very safely below luxury tax-paying land. And Shinn wants to sell the team. Gee, what Hornets team is worth more, a team with Chris Paul or without? Who was it just calculated that the Cavs lost $100M in value when they lost LeBron James?

So you're saying quit watching the NBA then unless you like MIA or LA?

 

[Rastapopoulos]

Makes sense. But one of Paul and Collison should go if the Hornets are rational, so if it isn't Paul it is Collison. Still an interesting target.

Hey, the Jazz kept Boozer and Millsap until Boozer left. Why do they have to trade either? Collison is good insurance if, like last year, Paul misses a bunch of games.

If Shinn can't get a buyer, I imagine Collison would become available so long as you took Okafor too.

 

[cdub503]

http://www.realgm.com/src_checktrade.php?tradeid=5601968

eh? would they go for that? i know i wouldnt mind.... dre starts for another year collison gets back up minutes and then we take a contract off their hands. if we did a trade for him we shouldnt be giving up batum thats for damn sure

 

[PHXBlazer1]

Give up on trying to make others give up on Chris Paul.

 

[Rastapopoulos]

So you're saying quit watching the NBA then unless you like MIA or LA?

Welcome to the world of fans of the Clippers, Wolves, Grizzlies, Raptors, Nets, Knicks, Sixers, Bobcats, et. al.

 

[Rastapopoulos]

Give up on trying to make others give up on Chris Paul.

Can I at least get you to stop posting about it?

 

[barfo]

Hey, the Jazz kept Boozer and Millsap until Boozer left. Why do they have to trade either? Collison is good insurance if, like last year, Paul misses a bunch of games.

If Shinn can't get a buyer, I imagine Collison would become available so long as you took Okafor too.

They don't have to. However, they'd be smart to, since having too much talent piled up at one position isn't ideal. Suppose Batum was a SG. Wouldn't it be tempting to trade him (or Roy) for a SF?

And is Paul (Boozer) leaving soon? If so, great, we can wait for that and get him then.

barfo

 

[maxiep]

Teams that win are valuable. It's not the personalities as much as their record. Chris Paul could be traded and return pieces that are much more valuable to the Hornets on the court as well as lowering their salary cap.

 

[Rastapopoulos]

They don't have to. However, they'd be smart to, since having too much talent piled up at one position isn't ideal. Suppose Batum was a SG. Wouldn't it be tempting to trade him (or Roy) for a SF?

Collison just isn't that good! Remember when Tyus Edney had a surprisingly good rookie season with the Kings? That's Darren Collison!

 

[PHXBlazer1]

Can I at least get you to stop posting about it?

Probably not rastapopoulos

 

[Rastapopoulos]

Teams that win are valuable. It's not the personalities as much as their record. Chris Paul could be traded and return pieces that are much more valuable to the Hornets on the court as well as lowering their salary cap.

There are no such players available! $100M for Joe Johnson is crazy overpaying. $100M for LeBron James (and to a lesser extent, Chris Paul) is an unbelievable bargain. The Hornets lucked into Chris Paul. He's the best player they could ever hope for.

 

[maxiep]

There are no such players available! $100M for Joe Johnson is crazy overpaying. $100M for LeBron James (and to a lesser extent, Chris Paul) is an unbelievable bargain. The Hornets lucked into Chris Paul. He's the best player they could ever hope for.

He could return three or four excellent players, draft picks and $10MM in cap space. His production could be largely filled by Collison.

 

[Idog1976]

http://www.realgm.com/src_checktrade.php?tradeid=5601968

eh? would they go for that? i know i wouldnt mind.... dre starts for another year collison gets back up minutes and then we take a contract off their hands. if we did a trade for him we shouldnt be giving up batum thats for damn sure

Me likey. Shin? Who knows sure would solve a lot of our problems all at once. I almost like it better then getting CP3. Almost.

You have a perfect starting five. I'd almost trade AMEC rather then JPEC. Not sure which NOH would prefer probably Joel. You could also throw in Dante who has some value around the league.

 

[barfo]

Collison just isn't that good! Remember when Tyus Edney had a surprisingly good rookie season with the Kings? That's Darren Collison!

Nope, don't remember Tyus Edney. However, stats say he had a 12.7 PER in his rookie season, compared to 16.5 for Collison.
But you could be completely right about this, I'm not sure I've seen Collison play. His stats looked good when filling in for Paul, but that could be misleading.

barfo

 

[Rastapopoulos]

His production could be largely filled by Collison.

And LeBron's production will be largely filled by Jamario Moon.

 

[maxiep]

And LeBron's production will be largely filled by Jamario Moon.

I didn't say completely. I said largely. Collison was a 19/9 guy when Paul was out.

 

[Rastapopoulos]

Nope, don't remember Tyus Edney. However, stats say he had a 12.7 PER in his rookie season, compared to 16.5 for Collison.

Okay, okay. How about Damon Stoudemire then?

But you could be completely right about this, I'm not sure I've seen Collison play. His stats looked good when filling in for Paul, but that could be misleading.

I just think that NO plays a system that really flatters the PG. Dan Dickau averaged 13.2 ppg as their PG one year. Did he ever average half that anywhere else?

Of course, that suggests that Paul isn't all that either. But he's a lot more that than Collison.

 

[Idog1976]

And LeBron's production will be largely filled by Jamario Moon.

Man Rasta who pooped in your cereal? Perhaps Debbie Downer has hijacked Rasta's account?

Oh and I'm not giving up on my Dita Von Tease/Christina Hendricks/Idog three way either so nyah!

 

[Rastapopoulos]

I didn't say completely. I said largely. Collison was a 19/9 guy when Paul was out.

Remind me of NO's record in that spell?

 

[crowTrobot]

Here's another reason to give up: Chris Paul today dumped Octagon and signed up with LeBron James' agency. Hmmm. Now, if HE joins the Heat in a couple of years...

how? in a trade for bosh? as long as the big 3 are there the heat aren't going to be able to pay FA's more than the MLE.

 

[Rastapopoulos]

Man Rasta who pooped in your cereal. Debbie Downer has hijacked Rasta's account.
Oh and I'm not giving up on my Dita Von Tease/Christina Hendricks/Idog three way either so nyah!

Hey, who's the guy who's posting that you might as well give up on the NBA because of where LeBron James went? I'm the voice of reason, man!

 

[barfo]

Okay, okay. How about Damon Stoudemire then?

Nooooooooooo! Anything but that!

barfo

 

[Idog1976]

Hey, who's the guy who's posting that you might as well give up on the NBA because of where LeBron James went? I'm the voice of reason, man!

You know this guy might be the voice of Reason as well given the Gulf of Mexico, Iran/Israel, North Korea, the financial crisis and 2012.

He's still an UBER downer.

I'm suggesting the NBA is a bunch of bullshit. I'm also suggesting that in order to defeat the "Triumverate of South Beach Bitches" one needs to MASSIVELY overwhelm them with talent.

Help us CP3-E-O you're our only hope!