Global Cooling? Ice Sheet Growing

[PapaG]

Time to discredit this one, Alarmists.

A chilly Arctic summer has left nearly a million more square miles of ocean covered with ice than at the same time last year – an increase of 60 per cent.
The rebound from 2012’s record low comes six years after the BBC reported that global warming would leave the Arctic ice-free in summer by 2013.
Instead, days before the annual autumn re-freeze is due to begin, an unbroken ice sheet more than half the size of Europe already stretches from the Canadian islands to Russia’s northern shores.


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[BlazerCaravan]

Ice Age coming!

 

[jlprk]

Time to discredit this one, Alarmists.

After the roof caves in, you can always say that you had secretly joined the other side right beforehand, as you did with Andre Miller.

 

[TradeNurkicNow]

the daily mail is just too intellectually complex for us LIVs

 

[ant]

Time to discredit this one, Alarmists.

Oh, PapaG. Look at trends, not events, and all of this becomes easier to understand.

On a side note, I'm working on an interesting project that shows how climate change has decoupled some important mutualisms (when a species' range changes with climate change but their mutualist partners may not keep up...like a plant and its pollinator or seed disperser).

 

[Further]

Oh, PapaG. Look at trends, not events, and all of this becomes easier to understand.

On a side note, I'm working on an interesting project that shows how climate change has decoupled some important mutualisms (when a species' range changes with climate change but their mutualist partners may not keep up...like a plant and its pollinator or seed disperser).

Sounds very interesting. Are you working on if for school or job? I'd like to read it when you're done.

 

[BlazerWookee]

Ice Age coming!

Hopefully it's the first movie and not one of those godawful sequels...

 

[Eastoff]

Good to hear!!!
Here is an image showing the ice in the 80s

and here is an image from your link.

It looks promising. =]

 

[Nikolokolus]

Great. So 2013 goes down as an outlier in the scatterplot.

 

[BLAZINGGIANTS]

So ice is melting fast in some areas and growing in others? Sounds like climate change is still happening, but that change could be a shift for regions, rather than all warming?

 

[Further]

What's the point in being a climate denier? Either you are right and we are wrong in which case all our efforts to halt/slow climate change is all for naught, or we are right and all our efforts are beneficial towards creating a world better to live in for our children. However, regardless who is right or wrong, our efforts also move us towards energy independence, move technology drastically forward building whole new Ecco-industries creating wealth and jobs and keep the USA as a leader, reduce pollution and waste which even if it does not affect climate is still greatly beneficial.

 

[PapaG]

What's the point in being a climate denier? Either you are right and we are wrong in which case all our efforts to halt/slow climate change is all for naught, or we are right and all our efforts are beneficial towards creating a world better to live in for our children. However, regardless who is right or wrong, our efforts also move us towards energy independence, move technology drastically forward building whole new Ecco-industries creating wealth and jobs and keep the USA as a leader, reduce pollution and waste which even if it does not affect climate is still greatly beneficial.

Following facts and respecting the Scientific Method come to mind, for one. "Deniers" (a stupid term intentionally crafted as a pejorative) don't want to cripple economies and starve out the poor by raising energy costs to unreasonable levels, either. That would be the "Fascists", who use pseudo-science to push an economic and governmental agenda. The rest of your post is just the same bullshit fantasyland stuff we hear from Obama and others who are rewarding donors with millions of tax dollars to fail at another 'green energy' boondoggle.

 

[PapaG]

Great. So 2013 goes down as an outlier in the scatterplot.

A million years of consecutive data is an outlier in a scatterplot of the Earth's climate data.

Derp

 

[Further]

Following facts and respecting the Scientific Method come to mind, for one. "Deniers" (a stupid term intentionally crafted as a pejorative)

That's pretty all knowing by you to say that great majority of scientists are not respecting the scientific method but the small percent of studies that align with your notions are. Quite the egotist papag.

The climate is unequivically warming, study after study show this as a pattern over time. 90% of scientists according to Wikipedia (granted, not the best source but I'm too busy at the moment to find better source material) believe the warming is due mostly to human activities, the other 10% aren't sure or believe its non human caused. You ar in the infinitesimally small group with this thread that doesn't even believe there is any climate change.

Papag, you sadden me.

 

[MarAzul]

Crap! I have to hurry to get around through the North West Passage before it closes up again. These past five years or so have been the first time you can do it in the last 1000 years
when the Vikings did the deed.

 

[TehChad]

Wait...people still think Global Warming isn't real??? I thought that belief had gone the way of UFOs, Bigfoot, the Loch Ness Monster, etc...

 

[MarAzul]

Wait...people still think Global Warming isn't real??? I thought that belief had gone the way of UFOs, Bigfoot, the Loch Ness Monster, etc...

Oh come now friend, everyone knows the climate has been changing and has since the beginning of the earth. It is some what in a rerun cycle now but nothing says that will
continue to be true.

 

[PapaG]

Wait...people still think Global Warming isn't real??? I thought that belief had gone the way of UFOs, Bigfoot, the Loch Ness Monster, etc...

Yes, living in an echo chamber makes everything unanimous.

 

[barfo]

My bedroom was too cool last night. Therefore, climate science is a sham.

barfo