Going into the summer I hope this is the one graphic the team remembers

[mook]

 

[mook]

I mean, Elleby wasn't as bad as I thought he'd be.

 

[PtldPlatypus]

Interesting to see Ant on the same line as Dame. Wonder what a minutes-adjusted version would look like.

 

[SlyPokerDog]

How can Dame win the Good Teammate Award when he's clearly isolating himself from them?

 

[TBpup]

CJ worse than Melo.....that is pretty brutal. Would be interesting to hear from CJ defenders (curious since CJ isn't a defender himself) explain or justify this in terms of what is good for the team now and in the long run especially given his contract.

I don't see anything that will change my annual (going on year 6) desire to see CJ on another team. The best way I can see that he can help the Blazers is in what they can get back for him. Hopefully, he can go to another franchise where he will be the lead guard where I believe he will do quite well.

That just doesn't fit here.

 

[Rastapopoulos]

Really? For me it's this one:

 

[UKRAINEFAN]

Interesting to see Ant on the same line as Dame. Wonder what a minutes-adjusted version would look like.

He is only on the same defensive line; a long way off on the offensive line.

 

[UKRAINEFAN]

I want to see those bottom three guys gone.

 

[UKRAINEFAN]

Only one really above average defender and two offensive guys, but Simons doesn't get many minutes. It seems just reversing minutes for Simons and CJ would have improved the team.

 

[UKRAINEFAN]

Surprising to see Kanter so poor on offense, in addition to defense.

 

[wizenheimer]

I slam CJ a lot, but even with this opportunity to pile on, it's quite a small sample size. It's obvious CJ isn't as bad as that 6 game series or as good as the 12 game stretch at the beginning of the season. CJ's career norms define his value, not good or bad small sample sizes

thankfully, the 'Playoff-CJ' fairy tale should be buried for good though

 

[Rastapopoulos]

Surprising to see Kanter so poor on offense, in addition to defense.

He was unplayable in this series, so it's a tiny sample size.

 

[Rastapopoulos]

Worth noting that those are not per minute stats, so the reason CJ is SO bad and Dame is SO good is because they were both played huge minutes. Per minute Carmelo was probably worse defensively than CJ, and Elleby might be as well.

 

[wizenheimer]

Worth noting that those are not per minute stats, so the reason CJ is SO bad and Dame is SO good is because they were both played huge minutes. Per minute Carmelo was probably worse defensively than CJ, and Elleby might be as well.

Overall:









For Defense:





On/Off:



I think there's probably some rotational noise with some of those stats. But they sure do seem to confirm what it is we just watched

 

[tykendo]

Not just the stats, but eyes don't lie. Dame is one special player.

 

[Chris Craig]

Wait ANT and TJ were our 2nd and third best players?

 

[Mediocre Man]

Wait ANT and TJ were our 2nd and third best players?

But it wasn’t the roster

 

[BBert]

In Simons' defense on the on/off stats: He was almost always paired with Carmelo Anthony, and given one job -- Give the ball to Carmelo Anthony.

As for the rest, no wonder Olshey wants to keep him.

 

[stampedehero]

Interesting to see Ant on the same line as Dame. Wonder what a minutes-adjusted version would look like.

Good idea. He develops his long range and mid range shot skills and plays decent D while Dame gets more rest.

 

[Strenuus]

I slam CJ a lot, but even with this opportunity to pile on, it's quite a small sample size. It's obvious CJ isn't as bad as that 6 game series or as good as the 12 game stretch at the beginning of the season. CJ's career norms define his value, not good or bad small sample sizes

thankfully, the 'Playoff-CJ' fairy tale should be buried for good though

I disagree. People get 4 or 5 year contracts or lose trade value overnight because of the small sample playoff games. These are weighted far more.

 

[UKRAINEFAN]

He was unplayable in this series, so it's a tiny sample size.

Oh, I didn't realize this was just the playoffs. So it's not as bad as it seems, as long as we don't play in playoff games? You have probably already posted the entire season stats but if you could again?

 

[PtldPlatypus]

He is only on the same defensive line; a long way off on the offensive line.

What I meant by "line" was direction from the axis. The reason I mentioned a "minutes-adjusted" version is that TPA is a cumulative stat. Dame had 60 offensive TPA in 248 minutes. Ant appears to have had 8 offensive TPA in just 107 minutes. At that rate, given the same 248 minutes, Ant might have been at 18.5 TPA. Still far below Dame, but better than anyone else on the squad. Suggests perhaps he'll be ready for a larger role next year--perhaps the "microwave" role for which many believed CJ was best suited.

 

[wizenheimer]

I disagree. People get 4 or 5 year contracts or lose trade value overnight because of the small sample playoff games. These are weighted far more.

damn...I tried to be a little positive in CJ's favor and was corrected. can't win

 

[Strenuus]

damn...I tried to be a little positive in CJ's favor and was corrected. can't win

Lol there's just a track record of the playoffs making or breaking players so.

 

[Buffalo Custard]

can't win

Sort of like the Blazers with CJ as their 2nd best player!

 

[jlprk]

Surprising to see Kanter so poor on offense, in addition to defense.

Yes, in most regular season games, Kanter was our most reliable scorer.

Also, the graph should be per-minute, not per-game. That would explode outward the pictures of low-minute players, and implode inward the high-minute guys.

Edit: I just read the thread saying that the graph is only for the playoffs. So it's even more irrelevant.