Greg Oden Recieves MVP Vote

[OSUBlazerfan]

Im going to assume this is a joke, and a low blow by some douche writer

Also receiving votes: Greg Oden (1), Derrick Rose (1)

http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?page=SummerForecast10-MVP

 

[Mediocre Man]

If Oden can actually stay healthy, he DID have the PER of an MVP type player.

 

[ebott]

Or it could be someone that's seen Greg working out in the off-season. The kid is a beast.

 

[Reep]

If Oden stays healthy, has solid numbers and a good PER, and the Blazers make a splash in the playoffs (at least WCF), then it could happen. Clearly a long shot, but really dependent on his health.

 

[Minstrel]

Health is the key. He played like a near superstar last year, if you factor in both his production (PER, for example) and great defense.

Staying healthy will be a big question mark until he does it, but his talent isn't a question mark as far as I'm concerned. He has the talent to justify his #1 selection.

 

[maxiep]

If Greg Oden stays healthy, he will win the Most Improved Player award. His game doesn't translate to an MVP award because it's predicated on interior defense and cleaning the boards, scoring on putbacks. Our offense runs through Brandon, not GO.

 

[TradeNurkicNow]

I wouldn't go so far as to call Oden's play from last season "near superstar" level. He impressed maybe 65% of the time.

Don't get me wrong, if Oden puts it all together, we've got ourselves a near superstar. Moderate-to-big "if" at this point.

 

[oldmangrouch]

For Oden to win the MVP, 4 things would need to happen.

1. He would have to stay healthy.

2. He would have to prove that last season's PER wasn't the product of small sample size.

3. The team would have to at least get to the WCF.

4. Roy would have to be hit by a meteor between now and 1/1/11.

 

[anonymous gambler]

For Oden to win MVP, he simply has to play to his potential. All he needs is health.

 

[maxiep]

When he gets his quickness back, those silly reaching fouls will stop. And once officials gets used to his game, the ticky tack fouls will stop too. It will allow him to put in the 32-36 mpg he should get. We all know how frustrating it has been to see him just get into a groove and then have to be benched for foul trouble. When he's allowed to get rolling, he's scary.

 

[espn_hall_of_famer]

Really as an analyst, I think he is absoultey top-10.

To win an MVP you have to separate yourself from your peers and be on a championship contender. I think with the injuries last season and still winning 50 games, it is a no-brainer that this team is going to be one of the title-contenders for 10/11 if healthy.

So as mentioned, if they go deep as expected to the WCF, someone from the Blazers will get those votes with the outstanding players from the other finals teams. And if healthy and the PER stays consistent with what it was appearing to be after he got significant 500+ starting minutes under his belt last year, then I think we can expect Oden to leapfrog Roy in that recognition as to being the difference from a one-and-out playoff team to a championship contender.

 

[oldmangrouch]

No offense dude, but being a taste tester in an edible underwear factory doesn't make you an "analyst".

J/K

 

[axs88]

I wouldn't go so far as to call Oden's play from last season "near superstar" level. He impressed maybe 65% of the time.

Don't get me wrong, if Oden puts it all together, we've got ourselves a near superstar. Moderate-to-big "if" at this point.

This is what Minstrel meant in my opinion: superstar level means >=25 PER. 23 PER (offensive production+rebounds+blocks) + excellent defense = near superstar level.

 

[espn_hall_of_famer]

No offense dude, but being a taste tester in an edible underwear factory doesn't make you an "analyst".

J/K

True. But that was my first degree. But my last two were in Analytics and Statistcal Theory. So while I don't necessarily like to term myself something that generic, it's what everyone else calls seems to want to call me and is printed on all these things on my office walls. So it's hard to avoid.

But true, that term does get widely overused.

 

[Minstrel]

This is what Minstrel meant in my opinion: superstar level means >=25 PER. 23 PER (offensive production+rebounds+blocks) + excellent defense = near superstar level.

Yeah, exactly. I do agree with oldmangrouch's point that Oden needs to prove that it's not a small sample size artifact. But that's an issue about whether he can keep it up with bigger minutes. It's still true (if you believe that PER is a good measure of on-court play in terms of offense and rebounding) that Oden played at near a superstar level last season in the minutes he did play.

 

[Shooter]

For Oden to win MVP, he simply has to play to his potential. All he needs is health.

But what does it say about a guy when he merely jumps up to block a shot and wipes out his knee??? Seems to me that he's very fragile, and having "good health" for an entire season is wishful thinking.

 

[RoyToy]

A number like PER doesn't determine if you are a superstar or not. It's a rare category to be in, in any sport.

Lebron
Kobe
Wade

Are the only superstars in the league imo. Durant is probably on the cusp, and I don't consider CP3 a superstar, or Dwight Howard, the best center in the league.

It's a rare category to be in.

I can't say Oden was even close to being a superstar player last year.

 

[blazerboy30]

A number like PER doesn't determine if you are a superstar or not. It's a rare category to be in, in any sport.

Lebron
Kobe
Wade

Are the only superstars in the league imo. Durant is probably on the cusp, and I don't consider CP3 a superstar, or Dwight Howard, the best center in the league.

It's a rare category to be in.

I can't say Oden was even close to being a superstar player last year.

Interesting. You don't consider the best PG in the league, and possibly the best PG since Magic, to be a "superstar"?

 

[RoyToy]

No. I don't put just any great player in the superstar category.

 

[Wizard Mentor]

You guys are all idiots!!

It was obviously a female reporter giving him an MVP vote for having a "third leg".

 

[PtldPlatypus]

You guys are all idiots!!

It was obviously a female reporter giving him an MVP vote for having a "third leg".

Most
Voluminous
Penis

Makes perfect sense to me.

 

[Nate4Prez]

the Blazers make a splash in the playoffs (at least WCF), then it could happen.

2. He would have to prove that last season's PER wasn't the product of small sample size.

MVP voting takes place before the playoffs. Oden would have to average 20pts 13rbs, 2 blks and the Blazers would have to finish with the best record in the west for Oden to get a vote. Only then could he be considered "Most Valuable Player" because of the impact he would have had on the team.

 

[Blazer_Mullet_Man]

True. But that was my first degree. But my last two were in Analytics and Statistcal Theory. So while I don't necessarily like to term myself something that generic, it's what everyone else calls seems to want to call me and is printed on all these things on my office walls. So it's hard to avoid.

But true, that term does get widely overused.

I don't mean to be a spelling and grammar police, but when someone boasts about their degrees and has THIS poor of a grasp on the English language....it's really beyond pathetic.

 

[Blazer_Mullet_Man]

Affirmative, Beaver fan. A vote for Oden is a jab at the institution. Much like Reeser stadium...shessh, what a dive.

 

[Nhawz]

For Oden to win MVP, he simply has to play to his potential. All he needs is health.

Agreed, just watched the national championship game, ohio state and florida and he was so quick to get up in the air and his responsivness was impressive. I think if he gets his weight back down to his ohio state days, we will see mvp like numbers

 

[Nikolokolus]

I don't mean to be a spelling and grammar police, but when someone boasts about their degrees and has THIS poor of a grasp on the English language....it's really beyond pathetic.

If you are going to go down the road of the internet, grammar police it helps to be good at grammar yourself . . .

/justsayin

 

[espn_hall_of_famer]

I don't mean to be a spelling and grammar police, but when someone boasts about their degrees and has THIS poor of a grasp on the English language....it's really beyond pathetic.

True - I can't deny that I've let my grammar go, and in my discipline they quit focusing on it early in the baccalaureate level.

But alas, as it directly relates to this debate, I'd much rather have a poor grasp of the English language but intelligence and common sense then be the grammar police and have no sound reasoning skills and be one of the sheep who go around comparing Oden to some injury-prone bust.

 

[mgb]

You guys are all idiots!!

It was obviously a female reporter giving him an MVP vote for having a "third leg".

You never know, it might have been a guy for the same reason. Not that there's anything wrong with that,,,