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Both have been blowing up lately and both are potential Centers for the Blazers next year. Hickson has been in the league two more years, but is actually two years younger.

Here is a side by side comparison
Hickson seems to be a little better this year, but it's close, and Pek is better on offense and is a bigger body on the inside.

They will both likely cost a pretty penny next offseason, but Pek is a restricted FA, so Im not sure how likely it will be to get him, the Blazers might have to give something up.
 
we should have kept odens rights and traded him to minny :lol:
 
GOD said:
Both have been blowing up lately and both are potential Centers for the Blazers next year. Hickson has been in the league two more years, but is actually two years younger.

Here is a side by side comparison
Hickson seems to be a little better this year, but it's close, and Pek is better on offense and is a bigger body on the inside.

They will both likely cost a pretty penny next offseason, but Pek is a restricted FA, so Im not sure how likely it will be to get him, the Blazers might have to give something up.
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Not sure what you mean by "giving something up" . You think Minnie might trade him to us? No way. They have no other center and they sure don't want us to get him. They will re-sign him.

Plus I think Leonard can be as good. I would rather keep Hickson who can play two positions. I hate to say it but if JJ keeps posting double doubles most nights, 8 million will be the starting point.
 
I'd rather have Pek because I think he has more upside on both offense and defense. Unfortunately he will cost more money and I doubt there is any contract that Minny won't match. Resigning Hickson for 8 to 10 a year at 3 years wouldn't be horrible. Any longterm contract we give to a big i'm going to assume that once Leonard gets the starting nod we will look to move the other contract.
There are 4 bigs that I would be intrested in next year that i'm assuming all will get 10m a year contracts. Jefferson/Millsap/Hickson/Pek.
 
i would guess we offer pek a giant contract at 1201 july 1st, just to give minny something to chew on
 
The Kahn rule.

Don't forget, we'd have to renounce JJ to make a legit offer sheet to Pek. So is it worth renouncing any rights to Hickson, just to have a chance at Pek?
 
So you think Hickson will play center for the rest of his NBA career? If so the NBA has a big problem! The NBA was so much better back in the late 80's- 90's when you actually needed a true center to play the position..
 
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Rhal said:
I'd rather have Pek because I think he has more upside on both offense and defense. Unfortunately he will cost more money and I doubt there is any contract that Minny won't match. Resigning Hickson for 8 to 10 a year at 3 years wouldn't be horrible. Any longterm contract we give to a big i'm going to assume that once Leonard gets the starting nod we will look to move the other contract.
There are 4 bigs that I would be intrested in next year that i'm assuming all will get 10m a year contracts. Jefferson/Millsap/Hickson/Pek.
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This.
 
Why would Pek have more upside? Hickson is two years younger and already has higher PER, EFF, WS, TS and just about everything other than 2.2 pp36.
 
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Hickson isn't a center. LMA is already defending the other teams' biggest inside scorers.
 
GOD said:
comparison of Milsap, Jefferson, Pekovic and Hickson

Check out the link, it's interesting. By the numbers, Hickson seems to be as good or better than all of those others. And for those that have a issue with Hickson at center, Millsap is listed 1 inch smaller, Jefferson 1 inch taller.
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"By the numbers" doesn't always tell the whole story. I think generally Hickson is frequently over-matched as a post defender and seems to overlap an awful lot with LaMarcus (in that they both seem to be offensive oriented bigs). Pekovic intrigues me because he's strong, there's nothing finesse about his game and I think he'd actual be a good compliment to Aldridge.

Thought needs to be given to putting this team together with an eye towards clearly defined roles and complimentary skills wherever possible, long term I suspect that Hickson and Aldridge as a starting front-court isn't going to bear much fruit; Aldridge and Pekovic might.
 
Who cares what positions JJ and LA are. They are playing great together. I'm glad we have them both. It's a good combination. IMO, PF and C are not the problem on our team. We need a backup PG and SG. Will Barton or Elliott Williams might become the SG but we definitely can't rely on Price/Smith. That spot must be improved. Jarret Jack would be FABULOUS. He put up 29 pts and 11 asts off the bench vs the Lakers. Lillard hasn't even put up numbers like that yet.
 
I have nothing agaisnt Pekovic, haven't really seen him play much. But I swear to God, we will regret the day we let JJ Hickson go, if we do. With his contract for this year, he's by far the best value in the NBA. We'll have to pay a lot more to keep him past this year, but we should. He's 24, hungry, and I believe he's loyal to Portland for being the team that took a chance on him after he got waived. JJ HICKSON!
 
"by the numbers" Hickson is the worst defender

"by the numbers" Hickson's opponents PER is almost identical to his own
 
PHXBlazer1 said:
I have nothing agaisnt Pekovic, haven't really seen him play much. But I swear to God, we will regret the day we let JJ Hickson go, if we do. With his contract for this year, he's by far the best value in the NBA. We'll have to pay a lot more to keep him past this year, but we should. He's 24, hungry, and I believe he's loyal to Portland for being the team that took a chance on him after he got waived. JJ HICKSON!
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I completely agree that he's 24 ...
 
KingSpeed said:
Who cares what positions JJ and LA are. They are playing great together. I'm glad we have them both. It's a good combination. IMO, PF and C are not the problem on our team. We need a backup PG and SG. Will Barton or Elliott Williams might become the SG but we definitely can't rely on Price/Smith. That spot must be improved. Jarret Jack would be FABULOUS. He put up 29 pts and 11 asts off the bench vs the Lakers. Lillard hasn't even put up numbers like that yet.
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Interior defense and post offense are absolutely a problem with this team. Part of that is guys on the wing playing better man defense and the team playing better team defense as a whole, but LaMarcus and JJ together is not exactly an ideal pairing.

To throw big money at him this off-season would be a big mistake in my opinion. Personally I'd prefer to see some kind of sign-and-trade worked out in the off-season (so we don't lose an asset for nothing) but inking him to a long-term deal isn't really the answer if LaMarcus is your starting power-forward for the next few years.
 
KingSpeed said:
We need a backup PG and SG...Jarret Jack would be FABULOUS.
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I agree with this part of your quote. We could possibly sign Jarrett Jack with the MLE or something near that amount. And he's versatile as he can play the 1 or 2 as a bench player.

KingSpeed said:
He (Jarrett Jack) put up 29 pts and 11 asts off the bench vs the Lakers. Lillard hasn't even put up numbers like that yet.
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That's bullshit. Lillard put up numbers like that. Refer to the following link for Lillard's stats:
http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/l/lillada01/gamelog/2013/
 
Nikolokolus said:
"By the numbers" doesn't always tell the whole story. I think generally Hickson is frequently over-matched as a post defender and seems to overlap an awful lot with LaMarcus (in that they both seem to be offensive oriented bigs). Pekovic intrigues me because he's strong, there's nothing finesse about his game and I think he'd actual be a good compliment to Aldridge.

Thought needs to be given to putting this team together with an eye towards clearly defined roles and complimentary skills wherever possible, long term I suspect that Hickson and Aldridge as a starting front-court isn't going to bear much fruit; Aldridge and Pekovic might.
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I'd say his footwork is pretty finesse.
 
And I bet half these comments being made about not keeping Hickson would be a mistake are from guys who wanted to trade Aldridge for Bosh a couple of years ago. Thank God we never did that move.
 
BigGameDamian said:
And I bet half these comments being made about not keeping Hickson would be a mistake are from guys who wanted to trade Aldridge for Bosh a couple of years ago. Thank God we never did that move.
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how much would you be willing to pay to keep him? 8 mil per? 10 mil per? 12 mil per? my guess is he at least gets 8-10 mil per, maybe more
 
Blazinaway said:
how much would you be willing to pay to keep him? 8 mil per? 10 mil per? 12 mil per? my guess is he at least gets 8-10 mil per, maybe more
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I don't mind keeping him, I just don't think we HAVE TO keep him to have a winning team in the future. I think we should be more open to our options and not just treat Hickson, Aldridge, Mathews like they are all untouchable.
 
BigGameDamian said:
I don't mind keeping him, I just don't think we HAVE TO keep him to have a winning team in the future. I think we should be more open to our options and not just treat Hickson, Aldridge, Mathews like they are all untouchable.
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What? Damian Lillard is the only untouchable on the team.
 
I'd hate to see Hickson leave. I love watching him play. I haven't seen that type of hustle from a Blazer since Jerome Kersey or Ruben Peterson. Everyone has their price though. 8 mil, sure. 9 mil, ouch. 10 mil, ugh.
 
I agree we have to look to the future. Is Leonard part of that future? We need three quality bigs. Assuming Leonard improves next year, He, LMA and Hickson is a nice rotation. If one gets hurt for a few weeks, then you still have two quality players that can cover the C/PF spots. (no matter which one gets hurt) If you substitute Pekovoc for Hickson into that 3 man rotation, and LMA gets hurt for a few weeks, then I think they are worse off.

This thread is interesting, but it is also very hypothetical and not likely to happen. If Pekovic is that good then there is no way Minnesota gives him up unless Kevin Love approves. Can you imagine what he would say if they let their starting center go? After what he has already said? It would be fun to watch him explode though.
 
I really don't know what the best option is. I like all the of/c options coming due this offseason. But I keep hearing that player X is not a good match for LA. So, what should we be looking for? Next to LA I would think we want a rebounder and rim protector. Hick, pek, Millsap and big al all seem like good rebounders, but none are rim protectors
 
GOD said:
I really don't know what the best option is. I like all the of/c options coming due this offseason. But I keep hearing that player X is not a good match for LA. So, what should we be looking for? Next to LA I would think we want a rebounder and rim protector. Hick, pek, Millsap and big al all seem like good rebounders, but none are rim protectors
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agree, the hope is that Meyers develops into that rim protector
 
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