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Pelosi lands helicopter at hospital under "Mission Accomplished" banner!

The biggest overhaul of America's medical system since Medicare passed with a tight vote in the House of Representatives Saturday night.

The bill passed with a vote of 220 to 215, with only one single Republican - Joseph Cao from Louisana - choose "Yea."

The health reform bill included a controversial amendment to restrict coverage of abortion.

House Speaker Nancy Pelosi was forced to bring up the abortion amendment after a deal with conservative Democrats collapsed and they threatened to sink the whole bill.

The move enraged liberals, but most agreed to stay onboard and President Obama traveled to the House to make a personal appeal and seal the deal.

Pelosi hailed the progress as delivering on the promise of Obama's election.

"President Obama's leadership gives our nation hope," she said. "Today, with this legislation, we will give them health."

The bill proposes to spend $1.055 trillion to add 36 million Americans to the insurance rolls, largely paid for with a 5.4% surtax on the top 0.3% of earners and cutting Medicare Advantage programs.

It would create an exchange where small businesses and the uninsured could buy coverage, including a government-run public option. The abortion amendment bars anyone who gets federal subsidies from abortion coverage. The public option plan does not cover elective abortion.

Under the bill, no insurance company could consider preexisting conditions, out-of-pocket expenses would be capped, there would be no co-pays for preventive care, and the so-called donut hole would be closed in Medicare prescription coverage.

"This is the most important legislation I've voted on in my 21 years in Congress," Bronx Rep. Eliot Engel said.

Republicans argued the measure is too expensive, too tax-heavy and a threat to jobs and American freedom.

Liberals savaged the anti-abortion provision. "This amendment threatens the health and rights of women to seek a legal procedure," said Westchester Rep. Nita Lowey, calling it "unnecessary and reprehensible."

But pro-choice Democrats voted for the overall measure nevertheless, helped along by Obama, who implored them to be on the "right side of history" and invoked the shootings at Fort Hood in his emotional appeal.

"He was absolutely inspiring. In a very moving way, he reminded us what sacrifice really is," said Rep. Rob Andrews, a New Jersey Democrat. "It made a lot of people feel a little less sorry for themselves about their political problems."

A $61 billion GOP substitute bill failed after Democrats mocked it, noting that nonpartisan number crunchers found it did little to help people get insurance.

Brooklyn-Queens Rep. Anthony Weiner quipped the uninsured could turn to the "bill fairy" for help affording doctor visits under the GOP plan.

The Senate must also pass its bill, which also is facing trouble from conservative Democrats.

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/pol...use_amendment_restricts_abortion_coverag.html
 
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Socialism comes in full to the semi free citizens of the USA.

I believe this will be the single most destructive bill in this country's history (after letting women vote, of course).
 
Just reading through the above, it's abundantly clear that the actual health care part of the plan doesn't pay for itself. Duh. They're using $1T in tax hikes and cutting benefits elsewhere to pay for it, not paying for it through premiums that people would pay because the plan is so awesome they'd want it.
 
I wonder how many of the 220 who voted for this measure are going to opt out of their coverage and opt into this progam?
 
I wonder how many of the 220 who voted for this measure are going to opt out of their coverage and opt into this progam?

Answer: zero

A better question may be, "I wonder how many that voted for this bill leading to higher taxes, severe cuts for people in need, the ending of millions of jobs... will be re-elected?
 
Pelosi doesn't care...she will be...

That woman is pure evil....
 
If you still think the point of THIS bill is to change healthcare for everyone, you still don't understand THIS bill. If you want to worry about an eventual single payer bill, then it makes sense to talk about the 220. BTW the coverage from THIS bill is the same as what they get as government employees.
 
If you still think the point of THIS bill is to change healthcare for everyone, you still don't understand THIS bill. If you want to worry about an eventual single payer bill, then it makes sense to talk about the 220. BTW the coverage from THIS bill is the same as what they get as government employees.

^^Someone who doesn't understand what's in the bill^^
 
Hmmm.... The public's response?

http://www.gallup.com/poll/124226/Republicans-Edge-Ahead-Democrats-2010-Vote.aspx

Republicans Edge Ahead of Democrats in 2010 Vote

Registered voters prefer Republicans for the House, 48% to 44%

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Bottom Line

Roughly a year before the 2010 midterm elections, Republicans seem well-positioned to win back some of their congressional losses in 2006 and 2008. Independents are increasingly coming to prefer the Republican candidate for Congress, and now favor the GOP by 22 points. Political conditions could still shift between now and Election Day to create a more favorable environment for Democratic candidates, but a Republican lead on the generic ballot among registered voters has been a sign of a strong Republican showing at the polls in the coming election.
 
I wonder how many of the 220 who voted for this measure are going to opt out of their coverage and opt into this progam?

Does that make it bad, then, that they wouldn't use it themselves? How many congressmen who vote on sending us into a war would quit their jobs to join the military? Does that make that war a bad idea?
 
Does that make it bad, then, that they wouldn't use it themselves? How many congressmen who vote on sending us into a war would quit their jobs to join the military? Does that make that war a bad idea?

And besides, congresspeople are in a government run health plan already.

barfo
 
Does that make it bad, then, that they wouldn't use it themselves? How many congressmen who vote on sending us into a war would quit their jobs to join the military? Does that make that war a bad idea?

Sorry, this analogy doesn't fit, or work.
 
Why? They vote on many many things each year. because they won't get rid of something they have for something they voted for doesn't make what they voted for a bad thing. If they vote on welfare benefits, should they quit their job to instead receive welfare checks? No. Does it make the welfare bill they might vote on bad? No. Same here. They have better insurance than what this is offering probably. But this is better than no insurance that people who use this will have.
 
Why? They vote on many many things each year. because they won't get rid of something they have for something they voted for doesn't make what they voted for a bad thing. If they vote on welfare benefits, should they quit their job to instead receive welfare checks? No. Does it make the welfare bill they might vote on bad? No. Same here. They have better insurance than what this is offering probably. But this is better than no insurance that people who use this will have.

Smacks of "let them eat cake!" or "do as I say, not as I do."

Like how none of them send their kids to public school, but public school is good for the masses.
 
Smacks of "let them eat cake!" or "do as I say, not as I do."

Like how none of them send their kids to public school, but public school is good for the masses.

None of them? Hard to believe.

barfo
 

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