How can we capitalize?

[Natebishop3]

Maybe I'm a heartless bastard, but the Cavs have ZERO chance of competing next season. How can we capitalize on this? Who can we pilfer from their roster? If I'm Cleveland, I'm in blow-it-up mode.

Joel Prz, Andre Miller, Rudy and Bayless

for

Delonte West, Varejao, and Mo Williams.

Mo Williams/??
Roy/West
Batum/Babbitt
Aldridge/Varejao
Oden/Camby

 

[THE HCP]

Maybe I'm a heartless bastard, but the Cavs have ZERO chance of competing next season. How can we capitalize on this? Who can we pilfer from their roster? If I'm Cleveland, I'm in blow-it-up mode.

Joel Prz, Andre Miller, Rudy and Bayless

for

Delonte West, Varejao, and Mo Williams.

Mo Williams/??
Roy/West
Batum/Babbitt
Aldridge/Varejao
Oden/Camby

NOOOOO!!!!!! Delonte West is a head case and Mo Williams needs to shoot to contribute. I like Varejo, but that trade would be nuts!!!!

 

[EL PRESIDENTE]

oh god no.

for our purposes, Miller > Mo Williams. we can do better.

 

[Minstrel]

Maybe I'm a heartless bastard, but the Cavs have ZERO chance of competing next season. How can we capitalize on this? Who can we pilfer from their roster? If I'm Cleveland, I'm in blow-it-up mode.

Joel Prz, Andre Miller, Rudy and Bayless

for

Delonte West, Varejao, and Mo Williams.

I don't consider Williams enough better than Bayless to give up Bayless' potential. And they're the same style of player, so it's not like Williams is a better "fit."

I like Varejao, but I also like Andre Miller and Portland needs a starting point guard more than they need a big man.

West and Rudy are very meh, so I won't bother addressing them except insofar as I already have, in deeming them "meh."

So, Miller for Varejao with a small short-term upgrade in Mo at the cost of a longer-term downgrade from Bayless? I wouldn't absolutely hate it (since Varejao is much younger than Andre) but it doesn't thrill me either.

Let's go back to figuring out how to exploit New Orleans.

 

[Natebishop3]

I don't consider Williams enough better than Bayless to give up Bayless' potential. And they're the same style of player, so it's not like Williams is a better "fit."

I like Varejao, but I also like Andre Miller and Portland needs a starting point guard more than they need a big man.

West and Rudy are very meh, so I won't bother addressing them except insofar as I already have, in deeming them "meh."

So, Miller for Varejao with a small short-term upgrade in Mo at the cost of a longer-term downgrade from Bayless? I wouldn't absolutely hate it (since Varejao is much younger than Andre) but it doesn't thrill me either.

Let's go back to figuring out how to exploit New Orleans.

But what if New Orleans doesn't want to be exploited?

 

[B-Roy]

Let's not....Delonte will end up doing Roy's mom. Chemistry killed.

In all seriousness, that's a ton of money to take on, especially in the front court where you have 4 viable players fighting it out 96 minutes...

 

[Natebishop3]

Let's not....Delonte will end up doing Roy's mom. Chemistry killed.

In all seriousness, that's a ton of money to take on, especially in the front court where you have 4 viable players fighting it out 96 minutes...

With our health issues, I'm willing to take that risk.

 

[PHXBlazer1]

I don't consider Williams enough better than Bayless to give up Bayless' potential. And they're the same style of player, so it's not like Williams is a better "fit."

I like Varejao, but I also like Andre Miller and Portland needs a starting point guard more than they need a big man.

West and Rudy are very meh, so I won't bother addressing them except insofar as I already have, in deeming them "meh."

So, Miller for Varejao with a small short-term upgrade in Mo at the cost of a longer-term downgrade from Bayless? I wouldn't absolutely hate it (since Varejao is much younger than Andre) but it doesn't thrill me either.

Let's go back to figuring out how to exploit New Orleans.

Sounds good to me.

 

[rocketeer]

oh god no.

for our purposes, Miller > Mo Williams. we can do better.

playing next to roy?

you prefer the ball dominant guy who can't shoot at all and plays no defense over the very good shooter that can also do some distributing who also plays no defense?

seems like the 2nd guy would be much better playing alongside roy. the defense is still a problem, but his strengths fit much better with roy's.

 

[rocketeer]

Let's not....Delonte will end up doing Roy's mom. Chemistry killed.

In all seriousness, that's a ton of money to take on, especially in the front court where you have 4 viable players fighting it out 96 minutes...

those are the only two problems i see.

oden/aldridge/camby/varejao aren't going to all be happy.

 

[alex42083]

I'd take Varejao or even JJ Hickson off their hands as a reserve big man for us. And I'd consider Mo for PG, and maybe Anthony Parker as a backup to Nicolas.

But no way to Delonte.

 

[ironcrotch]

LOL

WTF

NO

 

[oldmangrouch]

The only guy on that team I really want is Varejao. He could be the short-term back-up to LMA. and the long-term replacement for Camby. Since the 11-12 season will be toast anyway, he would only need to be patient for one season - and only as long as it took O*** or Camby to be hurt again.

 

[DeanMoriarty]

Speaking of taking advantage.

I'm sure Tony Parker and CP3 realize they can't win now.

Why not join the Blazers to create a superteam just like the Heat?

Or if Melo realizes he can't get a ring in Denver, why not join the Blazers?

What's the next best option?

Lakers? Celtics? Within the next 5 years, their superstars will be too old.

 

[KingSpeed]

Cleveland is not in blow it up mode. They're just gonna make a few tweaks to their roster and try to win a title now. Remember how good the Bulls were the season after he retired in 1993? Cavs will surprise people this season. Never underestimate the heart of a regular season champion!

 

[Natebishop3]

Cleveland is not in blow it up mode. They're just gonna make a few tweaks to their roster and try to win a title now. Remember how good the Bulls were the season after he retired in 1993? Cavs will surprise people this season. Never underestimate the heart of a regular season champion!

With who? Who is the Pippen on that team? Jamison? Right...... That team was built around James, and now that he's gone they have zero chance of going anywhere next season.

 

[KingSpeed]

With who? Who is the Pippen on that team? Jamison? Right...... That team was built around James, and now that he's gone they have zero chance of going anywhere next season.

Mo Williams, Tracy McGrady, Antawn Jamison, Luis Scola, and J.J Hicksom is a decent starting lineup. Varejao, West (he can stay now), Moon, Parker, Gibson make a fine bench.

They'll surprise people.

 

[Natebishop3]

Mo Williams, Tracy McGrady, Antawn Jamison, Luis Scola, and J.J Hicksom is a decent starting lineup. Varejao, West (he can stay now), Moon, Parker, Gibson make a fine bench.

They'll surprise people.

Maybe you didn't catch the show in New York, but Tracy McGrady is done. That is not a Championship team. That's not even a playoff team.

 

[Rastapopoulos]

I agree that Varejao is the only really attractive asset - he's a really strong +/- guy. And he's paid a lot, and is the kind of player that's most valuable on a good team, and much less so on a team that needs scoring.

Przybilla and Rudy for Varejao?

I do NOT covet Mo Williams (although he's pretty personable on Twitter). I do like West, but he may have crazied himself out of the league. And we have a bazillion combo guards. At least.

 

[Nikolokolus]

Hey guys, you know what it's like on Thanksgiving towards the end of the day when all of the breast, thigh, leg and wing meat is gone and all you've got left is the little fatty bits at the bottom of the drip pan and some back meat ... going after Cleveland players in the wake of James' departure feels a little like picking at that stuff.

 

[LittleAlex]

Mo Williams, Tracy McGrady, Antawn Jamison, Luis Scola, and J.J Hicksom is a decent starting lineup. Varejao, West (he can stay now), Moon, Parker, Gibson make a fine bench.

They'll surprise people.

How can you say something this absurd then say shit like "Learn the Game then Post".

Are you high?
Your listed team might win 41 games which in the east might get them into the playoffs only to get swept in the first round.
Further, the Cavs have no cap space even with LeBron out of the picture due to the insane contracts they gave Mo Williams and Varejao + Jamison's fat contract.
How are they going to get Scola?

 

[Tortimer]

How can you say something this absurd then say shit like "Learn the Game then Post".

Are you high?
Your listed team might win 41 games which in the east might get them into the playoffs only to get swept in the first round.
Further, the Cavs have no cap space even with LeBron out of the picture due to the insane contracts they gave Mo Williams and Varejao + Jamison's fat contract.
How are they going to get Scola?

I read if the Cavs renounce Lebron they will have 9m+ cap space.

 

[BoomChakaLaka]

Let's not....Delonte will end up doing Roy's mom. Chemistry killed.

In all seriousness, that's a ton of money to take on, especially in the front court where you have 4 viable players fighting it out 96 minutes...

Heeee heeee

 

[Masbee]

Maybe I'm a heartless bastard, but the Cavs have ZERO chance of competing next season. How can we capitalize on this? Who can we pilfer from their roster? If I'm Cleveland, I'm in blow-it-up mode.

Problem is, it seems like Dan Gilbert is losing his shit.

Don't know what is wrong with that guy, but if his tantrum is any indication of the person he is, it is no wonder Riley/Arison were able to lure LeBron away.

When your boss is a crazy sob, you would like to escape that if at all possible.

Anywho, while in the midst of his insanity and after having fired his GM, who are the Blazers supposed to deal with in Cleveland.

I wouldn't bother reaching out to them right now. Waste of time.

 

[EL PRESIDENTE]

prediction: desparate dan gilbert hires Bob Whitsett to quickly assemble an anti-LeBronze team.

 

[Draco]

I don't think I like the idea of acquiring Varejo's contract; we already have Camby and LA on fat deals with Oden to follow next season. It's just too much salary to spend for spot backup minutes and injury insurance. Add to that we would have to ship out our starting PG? That will hurt our chances of competing next season.

I do like the idea of getting Mo Williams however, he would be a good complement to Andre and they could even play together for brief stretches. Mo would be an awesome guard to have off the bench. Last season at the end of the year this team was very lost when Andre was out of the game, Bayless really struggled at backup PG.

So if the Cavs are looking to dump Williams in a salary dump for Pryzbilla's contract I would be interested. I'd probably give them Rudy or a draft pick but if they want much else for now I would pass.