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San Francisco and Bay Area generally had proportionately fewer Covid deaths than many other cities. People wear masks and very high vaccine rates.
 
https://www.newsweek.com/chesa-boudin-inflection-point-fight-civilizational-sanity-opinion-1714505

Chesa Boudin is, by any reasonable measure, a nut job. Conservatives could not grow a more picture-perfect political villain in a Petri dish, even if they tried; Boudin really is that caricaturable......

.........In short, city dwellers, even in nutty San Francisco, became disenchanted with their needle-bestrewn, feces-bespeckled sidewalks, their homeless encampments run amok and their inability to walk once-safe neighborhoods without fear of being mugged. So they axed Boudin.

Boudin's ouster is yet another data point evincing the woke Left's cultural and political overreach throughout the United States. Last November, one year after Joe Biden defeated Donald Trump by double-digits in Virginia, Republican Glenn Youngkin ascended to the governor's mansion by running during the campaign's closing stretch as a culture war-centric, anti-critical race theory leader. Elsewhere last November, the left-wing cities of Minneapolis and Seattle defeated a toxic "defund the police" ballot initiative and elected a pro-law-and-order Republican as district attorney, respectively. Those results should have been wake-up calls for "progressive prosecutor" zealots.

Indeed, last December, San Francisco Mayor London Breed, herself a Democrat and no progressive slouch, inadvertently foreshadowed Boudin's recall when she said: "The reign of criminals who are destroying our city, it is time for it to come to an end. And it comes to an end when we take the steps to be more aggressive with law enforcement, more aggressive with the changes in our policy and less tolerant of all the bulls*** that has destroyed our city."

Even more recently, when Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis deployed his much-discussed fiscal fusillade in April against The Walt Disney Company for its propagandistic opposition to Florida Republicans' parental rights in education bill, public opinion was on DeSantis' side by a large double-digit margin. Whether it is law and order in the streets or gender ideology in the classroom, the pendulum is now finally swinging back toward the side of civilizational sanity.

But the far-left activist wing of the Democratic Party remains as radical as ever. And from fomenting overt anti-prosecution urban anarchy to playing down an attempted assassination of a sitting Supreme Court justice as if it is no big deal, the chasm between grassroots leftists and the sensible median American voter has never been broader. San Francisco, of all places, now seems to agree. Unfortunately for Democrats, even if they wanted to distance themselves from their toxic grassroots (and they don't), it is now too late. Democrats are going to lose badly this November, and they only have themselves to blame.
 
Jesus, what right wing nutjob who never set foot in California wrote that drivel?
And throw in hating gays for good measure. No wonder a certain person hates San Francisco.
 
crandc said:
Jesus, what right wing nutjob who never set foot in California wrote that drivel?
And throw in hating gays for good measure. No wonder a certain person hates San Francisco.
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I bolded what the mayor said. I'm sure there are out-of-state nutjobs all over the place submitting their opinions. There are the locals, as well. This ain't Kansas.
 
ABM said:
https://www.newsweek.com/chesa-boudin-inflection-point-fight-civilizational-sanity-opinion-1714505

Chesa Boudin is, by any reasonable measure, a nut job. Conservatives could not grow a more picture-perfect political villain in a Petri dish, even if they tried; Boudin really is that caricaturable......

.........In short, city dwellers, even in nutty San Francisco, became disenchanted with their needle-bestrewn, feces-bespeckled sidewalks, their homeless encampments run amok and their inability to walk once-safe neighborhoods without fear of being mugged. So they axed Boudin.

Boudin's ouster is yet another data point evincing the woke Left's cultural and political overreach throughout the United States. Last November, one year after Joe Biden defeated Donald Trump by double-digits in Virginia, Republican Glenn Youngkin ascended to the governor's mansion by running during the campaign's closing stretch as a culture war-centric, anti-critical race theory leader. Elsewhere last November, the left-wing cities of Minneapolis and Seattle defeated a toxic "defund the police" ballot initiative and elected a pro-law-and-order Republican as district attorney, respectively. Those results should have been wake-up calls for "progressive prosecutor" zealots.

Indeed, last December, San Francisco Mayor London Breed, herself a Democrat and no progressive slouch, inadvertently foreshadowed Boudin's recall when she said: "The reign of criminals who are destroying our city, it is time for it to come to an end. And it comes to an end when we take the steps to be more aggressive with law enforcement, more aggressive with the changes in our policy and less tolerant of all the bulls*** that has destroyed our city."

Even more recently, when Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis deployed his much-discussed fiscal fusillade in April against The Walt Disney Company for its propagandistic opposition to Florida Republicans' parental rights in education bill, public opinion was on DeSantis' side by a large double-digit margin. Whether it is law and order in the streets or gender ideology in the classroom, the pendulum is now finally swinging back toward the side of civilizational sanity.

But the far-left activist wing of the Democratic Party remains as radical as ever. And from fomenting overt anti-prosecution urban anarchy to playing down an attempted assassination of a sitting Supreme Court justice as if it is no big deal, the chasm between grassroots leftists and the sensible median American voter has never been broader. San Francisco, of all places, now seems to agree. Unfortunately for Democrats, even if they wanted to distance themselves from their toxic grassroots (and they don't), it is now too late. Democrats are going to lose badly this November, and they only have themselves to blame.
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https://www.wkrn.com/news/local-new...among-state-capitals-with-highest-crime-rate/
 
ABM said:
We already know that, and also know the only reason I moved here was for a woman - my wife. Thanks all the same for sharing, though. If you'd like, start a thread on Nashville crime and we can all sift through that.
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So.....you want to trash other people's home towns but you don't like the flip side. What a surprise. Maybe if you added a little seasoning to that crow, it might go down a little easier. Just sayin'.......
 
UncleCliffy'sDaddy said:
So.....you want to trash other people's home towns but you don't like the flip side. What a surprise. Maybe if you added a little seasoning to that crow, it might go down a little easier. Just sayin'.......
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Regarding Boudin, I found it at least a bit interesting he was even elected DA considering his family background:

Boudin's parents were Weather Underground domestic terrorists and, following the 1981 Brink's Robbery in New York state, convicted as cop-killers. They were incarcerated (Boudin's father was just released last November), and Boudin was thus raised in Chicago's Hyde Park neighborhood by Bill Ayers. Yes, that Bill Ayers—the one-time Weather Underground leader, domestic terrorist kingpin and erstwhile comrade of another famous Hyde Park denizen, Barack Obama. Boudin's great-grand-uncle, Louis Boudin, was an influential Marxist legal theorist and an active member of the Socialist Labor Party of America. His grandfather, Leonard Boudin, was a radical leftist attorney who once represented Fidel Castro's revolutionary Cuban government. Chesa Boudin himself worked before law school in Caracas as a translator and researcher for Venezuela's (blessedly deceased) socialist president, Hugo Chavez.

Oh, and in case you missed it earlier, Nashville is at least making some efforts on mitigating the homelessness front. And, we do have a Democtratic mayor:

https://www.newschannel5.com/news/nashville-posed-to-create-an-office-of-homeless-services

NASHVILLE, Tenn. (WTVF) — In the coming months, Nashville could have what homeless advocates have wanted for at least a decade: a department dedicated to people experiencing homelessness.

The Office of Homeless Services was proposed in the fall and was up for a second vote on Tuesday night.

"I do think building on this consensus to have a single point of contact, authority and accountability is going to serve the city well," said Metro Council Member Freddie O'Connell, who proposed the bill.........................
 
Chesa Boudin grew up with two incarcerated parents. Well known. Leonard Boudin is a highly respected attorney who defended those others would not touch.
I thought in America children weren't punished for their parents...
I get it. San Francisco is a hellhole because of queers. Florida is paradise on earth because they banned saying gay. A couple of megachurch Christian ministers ate making news calling for death penalty for all gay and trans people. Waiting for ABM to say he loves it.
Or is this San Francisco bashing just an attempt to divert attention from his candidate promoting a violent attempted coup?
 
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ABM said:
Actually, what I got out the article was the soft-on-crime, and human feces on streets aspects.
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I'm going to guess your "solution" is boots on the ground....since you parade that thought about Nashville.....next time you visit SF bring your poopy scooper....if you love dogs, then poop on the ground is something you deal with all the time. Don't forget your boots though...you'll need them.. I've read some really shitty articles about violence and crime in Nashville but I don't bother to highlight it here just to show how crime and homelessnes are in Tennessee......get soft on some of that! When you have a handle on your backyard you can criticize places thousands of miles away from your home state. You can probably find human feces in most ghettos in the world but are you really looking for that? Baffles the mind.
 
riverman said:
I'm going to guess your "solution" is boots on the ground....since you parade that thought next time you visit SF bring your poopy scooper....if you love dogs, then poop on the ground is something you deal with all the time. Don't forget your boots though...you'll need them.. I've read some really shitty articles about violence and crime in Nashville but I don't bother to highlight it here just to show how crime and homelessnes is in Tennessee......get soft on some of that!
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Last time I was in SF, they actually had a squad of street washers hosing down streets for Human poop. And this was going around at night too. This was pre-covid, apparantly its gotten much worse.
 
EL PRESIDENTE said:
Last time I was in SF, they actually had a squad of street washers hosing down streets for Human poop. And this was going around at night too.
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Good to hear ....I wish my neighbors would wash down their puppy farm more often...when the wind blows from the east it's hard to escape. Porta potties reek....folks use them at parties though and concert venues! That's some serious piles of shit in a sauna on the street...people don't seem to get upset about them! That 52 block ghetto in LA has to be fairly ripe on a daily basis baking in the sun too....traveling China people shit in trenches outdoors and plant food on top of it in the fall...it's called night soil in Chinese. Gross stuff but let's not pretend like it's exclusive to SF...it's not ....we put diapers in dark green garbage cans that bake in the sun too.....just some shit perspective..now the needles on the streets are a different issue...that's like New York City in the 70s....
 
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riverman said:
Good to hear ....I wish my neighbors would wash down their puppy farm more often...when the wind blows from the east it's hard to escape. Porta potties reek....we use them at parties though and concert venues! That's some serious piles of shit in a sauna on the street...people don't seem to get upset about them!
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The problem is still pretty terrible. They can't get it all, and its just insane to have a society where people poop on the street. Especially one as wealthy as San Francisco.
 
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riverman said:
I'm going to guess your "solution" is boots on the ground....since you parade that thought about Nashville.....next time you visit SF bring your poopy scooper....if you love dogs, then poop on the ground is something you deal with all the time. Don't forget your boots though...you'll need them.. I've read some really shitty articles about violence and crime in Nashville but I don't bother to highlight it here just to show how crime and homelessnes are in Tennessee......get soft on some of that! When you have a handle on your backyard you can criticize places thousands of miles away from your home state. You can probably find human feces in most ghettos in the world but are you really looking for that? Baffles the mind.
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There's a reason Boudin was booted, hence the OP article.
 
EL PRESIDENTE said:
Last time I was in SF, they actually had a squad of street washers hosing down streets for Human poop. And this was going around at night too.
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I haven't been to SF since '14, but yeah, when we would leave our hotel for an early breakfast there were city employees already at work, cleaning up the poop and hosing down the urine (supposedly they're now painting building exteriors with paint that "repels" the urine, but I have no idea how that is working). We really appreciated that they were doing the clean up, but it is sad that it has come to that, especially on an every day basis. BG, my two oldest granddaughters and I will be swinging through SF mid next month to catch a Giants game and it will be interesting to see how (good or bad) things have changed in 8 years......though other than to do dinner at Harry's Hunan we won't be wandering far from the vicinity of the ballpark......
 
UncleCliffy'sDaddy said:
I haven't been to SF since '14, but yeah, when we would leave our hotel for an early breakfast there were city employees already at work, cleaning up the poop and hosing down the urine (supposedly they're now painting building exteriors with paint that "repels" the urine, but I have no idea how that is working). We really appreciated that they were doing the clean up, but it is sad that it has come to that, especially on an every day basis. BG, my two oldest granddaughters and I will be swinging through SF mid next month to catch a Giants game and it will be interesting to see how (good or bad) things have changed in 8 years......though other than to do dinner at Harry's Hunan we won't be wandering far from the vicinity of the ballpark......
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As you most likely saw from my pics, my wife and I had a GREAT time there in '18.
 
Apparently San Francisco is a failed city because of ... Chesa Boudin's grandfather!
I have never had the pleasure of meeting Leonard Boudin but unlike ABM, whose knowledge is based on one hit piece, I have been familiar with his work for decades. He is not a radical. He is a civil libertarian. Believed civil liberties are for everyone, even if they have unpopular views. Black Panthers, communists, and his daughter. Kathy Boudin was a radical who went drastically off track, but her influence on San Francisco is about zero. Chesa Boudin had the very unradical notion of reforming criminal justice system from within. Unlike him, I am a socialist and question whether that is possible.
Countries like Somalia are called failed states. Central government doesn't really control and is totally corrupt. Country in state of perpetual war. San Francisco has problems like every place. The right makes what are usually local stories into fake national scandals to "prove" the failure of liberals and queers, knowing people like ABM will swallow without question.
Not a failed city, a failed hit job.
 
Boudin was recalled. Simple as that. For reasons well known to the (mostly liberal) San Francisco voters. Interested to see how the mayor steps up in finding his replacement.
 
ABM said:
Boudin was recalled. Simple as that. For reasons well known to the (mostly liberal) San Francisco voters. Interested to see how the mayor steps up in finding his replacement.
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His predecessor, Gascon is near recall in LA too. A total disaster
 
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