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ABM

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Far too much......

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....in here.

IMO, an NBA team has to log at least 10 games before solid analysis can/should be made on their place in the proverbial pecking order (no chicken little pun intended.)
 
There's simply no middle ground for some posters on here - either we're screwed or we're about to go undefeated.
 
Of course there's middle ground. I guess just not for those who see an 88-game-long trend from last year continuing into this year with little sign of change. :dunno:
 
Hey if Nate can choose his opening night starters based on last year, I can be critical of Nate based on last year and the year before and the year before. And before people start squawking that he won 54 games last year... Doc Rivers won a title the year before that. Winnig a lot doesn't automatically make you an untouchable coach.
 
Schilly said:
Hey if Nate can choose his opening night starters based on last year, I can be critical of Nate based on last year and the year before and the year before. And before people start squawking that he won 54 games last year... Doc Rivers won a title the year before that. Winnig a lot doesn't automatically make you an untouchable coach.
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Doc Rivers also had KG, Paul Pierce and Ray Allen.

McMillan has overachieved given our talent level. He's made some critical errors (overreliance on Travis Outlaw in the playoffs last year), and I don't think he's untouchable, but he's certainly nowhere near the hot seat, nor should he be.
 
To be fair I've seen just as much this:

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and this:

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It a Blazer forum board . . . of course you are going to get passionate Blazer fans posting thier emotional opinions about the team. Not just during pre-season, but after the draft, during summer, during free agent moves and during any other NBA news that comes out.

If we all waited until 10-20 games to give our opinion about the Blazers this year . . . it would be a pretty boring board, IMO.



On the flip side, are posters who are predicting a division title or going far into the playoffs or winning 60 games also chicken littles?
 
Schilly said:
Hey if Nate can choose his opening night starters based on last year......
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I'd sure love to know the context of that particular statement.

I mean, if he said something to the effect of...

"Currently, I'm going into this thing (season) with the mindset that I'm penciling in last season's starters...................that is, until/unless somebody(ies) unseats any one or more of them."

....I'd be perfectly fine with, and expect, that.
 
it's_GO_time said:
On the flip side, are posters who are predicting a division title or going far into the playoffs or winning 60 games also chicken littles?
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Clearly not - for one, we did win a share of the division title last season, so there's clearly precedent. Further, as evidenced by all of the ESPN picks, the experts would agree with those of us who see good things ahead. The panic crowd is just not being rational.
 
ABM said:
I'd sure love to know the context of that particular statement.

I mean, if he said something to the effect of...

"Currently, I'm going into this thing (season) with the mindset that I'm penciling in last season's starters...................that is, until/unless somebody(ies) unseats any one or more of them."

....I'd be perfectly fine with, and expect, that.
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2 problems.

First, Nate called off the competition 2 weeks too early, and without any apparent regard for what was actually happening.

Second, KP has shown a reluctance to make in-season course corrections. People are understandably concerned that the flaws we see now will not be addressed down the road.
 
BlazerBeav said:
Clearly not - for one, we did win a share of the division title last season, so there's clearly precedent. Further, as evidenced by all of the ESPN picks, the experts would agree with those of us who see good things ahead. The panic crowd is just not being rational.
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What because folks have watched their team play like ass and struggle against bad teams, they are not logical? When exactly was the last time getting your ass kicked by the Clippers and Utah multiple times a good sign? What is logical about watching that, and then thinking your team will do great? Part of the signs of a good team is that they prepare properly. This team has shown no signs of that so far.
 
BlazerBeav said:
Clearly not - for one, we did win a share of the division title last season, so there's clearly precedent. Further, as evidenced by all of the ESPN picks, the experts would agree with those of us who see good things ahead. The panic crowd is just not being rational.
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I don't think agreeing with media sources should be the determining factor on who is being rationale. In fact the Oregonian is reporting this team fails in chemistry . . . so are the posters who are concerned with the Blazers now being rationale because it is validated by the Oregonian.

On top of that, many in the national media have labeled Oden a bust . . . so are people who say he isn't a bust being rationale?

My point is everyone has an opinion and basing it off of pre-season, or acquistions, or past performance seems alright to me . . . regardless if the opinion conforms with the majority opinion put out by the media.
 
The first step toward the middle ground is to stop believing Pritchard's claim that this team has any more depth than average. This change would tear off the shackles that prevent improvement through trades. I laugh at the homerism of those who have said for a couple of years that we are the deepest team in the league. We need a GM who believes in constant improvement, not in stagnation.

These infant, undeveloped players haven't shown anything, and never will unless they go to a team which can give them minutes. Under a different coach, some of the players would go up and some down. Roy wouldn't look as good, not allowed to hog the ball, while Aldridge, forced to stay inside, would become tougher and more respected.
 
oldmangrouch said:
.....KP has shown a reluctance to make in-season course corrections. People are understandably concerned that the flaws we see now will not be addressed down the road.
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IMO, up until this coming season, the cake has been in the baking mode. However, me thinks KP is smart enough to know that - currently - some pruning might be required at some point prior to the TD.
 
ABM said:
IMO, up until this coming season, the cake has been in the baking mode. However, me thinks KP is smart enough to know that - currently - some pruning might be required at some point prior to the TD.
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You prune cakes? I don't think crandc would recommend making a cake you have to prune. :tsktsk:
 
ABM said:
IMO, up until this coming season, the cake has been in the baking mode. However, me thinks KP is smart enough to know that - currently - some pruning might be required at some point prior to the TD.
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I hope you are correct. Coaches and GMs have to evolve, just as players do.
 
hasoos said:
What because folks have watched their team play like ass and struggle against bad teams, they are not logical? When exactly was the last time getting your ass kicked by the Clippers and Utah multiple times a good sign? What is logical about watching that, and then thinking your team will do great? Part of the signs of a good team is that they prepare properly. This team has shown no signs of that so far.
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Have we played at full strength yet (other than maybe the 1st Kings game)? Are we actually playing to win in the preseason? Or, are we evaluating different line-ups, letting the new guys learn their teammates, etc. If we were 100% healthy and the goal was to win each and every preseason game, I'd be concerned. I'm not.

We got killed by Utah in preseason last year, too - under almost identical circumstances. We were missing Roy, Oden and Aldridge. Utah was at full strength and played their starters considerable minutes. Yet we won 54 games and they only won 48. Getting your ass kicked in a meaningless preseason game is hardly reason for panic. Nor is it an accurate indicator of regular season success.

BNM
 
I'm not worried. We just need to be healthy.
 
I think it is perfectly understandable for people to be worried. Honestly, it is getting a little annoying seeing all the "ITS PRESEASON!" people complaining about the worriers.
 
Everyone that is ready to panic over the pre-season obviously has too much time on their hand.

So, if you believe you are in this group, I will send you a virus.

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Is it appropriate to point out that being concerned right now about some obvious problems does not equal being in a panic? Or is this a bit too rational for this thread?

It's a long season. I realize this. Still, some things clearly need to be ironed out before this team even matches 54 wins.
 
Too much Chicken Little?

Losing to the Jazz by 20 at one point during the second half of yesterday's game didn't really send shivers down my spine. People need to realize that the pre-season is all about experimenting and getting back into the rhythm of things. Even if we don't start out with a winning percentage after our first ten games, there's still time for the team to hit their stride.
 
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