I don't ever want to hear that RJ can't carry the offense
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He is most efficient in the princeton/fast pace offense.</p>
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But he cant carry an offense, or at least cannot be looked upon as a go to scorer like the premier scorers in the league(Pierce, Wade, AI, Bryant, LBJ, Melo, Carter, etc)</p>
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But he cant carry an offense, or at least cannot be looked upon as a go to scorer like the premier scorers in the league(Pierce, Wade, AI, Bryant, LBJ, Melo, Carter, etc)</p>
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VC isa better shooter than RJ. RJ is just more efficient, and that's what counts. VC can score 25 points on 18 shot attempts, RJ can score 18 on 9. That's why, until VC finally decides to take higher percentage shots, RJ should be the main focus of our offense, or at least as much of a part of it as Vince.</p>
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RJ has improved his shots very well... he is quite a consistent shooter.</p>
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That's exactly what I mean. RJ is a good shooter (let's not get too ahead of ourselves, he isn't more than "good"). VC is a great shooter. RJ is more consistent, efficient and reliable. Which is why he has been more important to our offense so far and why he should have a bigger role in it in the future.</p>
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vince is not a great shooter. when i think of great shooter i think of Redd and Ray Allen. vince is a volume shooter. i could agree that vince is a great volume shooter. we all know vince is extremely important to this offense/team/franchise, but right now RJ is the far superior all around player right now. what vince has that RJ may never have is a reputation of being a scorer. vince could have a horrible game, but he can draw a double team when he is on the block that gets someone an open shot, so vince's reputation of being a scorer is good for this team as we saw at times today vince was the primary assist or secondary assist because of the double team he created outta the post. as long as vince is on the floor the offense will run through vince, but right now it should be run through kidd and rj until vince wakes up from vacation.</p>
if this is the vince we have this year then we are not making the playoffs and we will not have the big 3 next year. maybe we will have a new big3, but somebody will be on the way out. so vince can make or break this team this year and for the future years, that is how important he is to this team/franchise. he has a lot of pressure to step it up.</p>
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VC isa better shooter than RJ. RJ is just more efficient, and that's what counts. VC can score 25 points on 18 shot attempts, RJ can score 18 on 9. That's why, until VC finally decides to take higher percentage shots, RJ should be the main focus of our offense, or at least as much of a part of it as Vince.</p>
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RJ has improved his shots very well... he is quite a consistent shooter.</p>
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That's exactly what I mean. RJ is a good shooter (let's not get too ahead of ourselves, he isn't more than "good"). VC is a great shooter. RJ is more consistent, efficient and reliable. Which is why he has been more important to our offense so far and why he should have a bigger role in it in the future.</p>
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vince is not a great shooter. when i think of great shooter i think of Redd and Ray Allen. vince is a volume shooter. i could agree that vince is a great volume shooter. we all know vince is extremely important to this offense/team/franchise, but right now RJ is the far superior all around player right now. what vince has that RJ may never have is a reputation of being a scorer. vince could have a horrible game, but he can draw a double team when he is on the block that gets someone an open shot, so vince's reputation of being a scorer is good for this team as we saw at times today vince was the primary assist or secondary assist because of the double team he created outta the post. as long as vince is on the floor the offense will run through vince, but right now it should be run through kidd and rj until vince wakes up from vacation.</p>
if this is the vince we have this year then we are not making the playoffs and we will not have the big 3 next year. maybe we will have a new big3, but somebody will be on the way out. so vince can make or break this team this year and for the future years, that is how important he is to this team/franchise. he has a lot of pressure to step it up.</p>
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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (L)</div><div class='quotemain'></p>
He is most efficient in the princeton/fast pace offense.</p>
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But he cant carry an offense, or at least cannot be looked upon as a go to scorer like the premier scorers in the league(Pierce, Wade, AI, Bryant, LBJ, Melo, Carter, etc)</p>
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Well said</p>
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He is most efficient in the princeton/fast pace offense.</p>
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But he cant carry an offense, or at least cannot be looked upon as a go to scorer like the premier scorers in the league(Pierce, Wade, AI, Bryant, LBJ, Melo, Carter, etc)</p>
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Well said</p>
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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (L)</div><div class='quotemain'></p>
He is most efficient in the princeton/fast pace offense.</p>
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But he cant carry an offense, or at least cannot be looked upon as a go to scorer like the premier scorers in the league(Pierce, Wade, AI, Bryant, LBJ, Melo, Carter, etc)</p>
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agree, RJ is a sidekick in the league. that is no disrespect to RJ at all, but he just lacks some talent to be THE number one guy, but that doesnt stop him from trying to do everything he can to win a game and that is why RJ gets so much love. i think RJ is the perfect wing player to play with a big like duncan,kg,shaq. im not saying to get those guys because we obviously cant so he wont play with them but i think RJ is the best tag team partner you can have. RJ thrives in this system and it is made for him rather than vince. when a system is filled with system players then you get players to play at their max like the suns have. those guys are perfect for the system they run and that system makes them look better than what they are.</p>
now if you just have RJ on the floor as the primary scoring option, like a few years ago due to kmart being traded and kidd injured, then you have teams focusing all their attention to him and that makes it harder on him where guys like kobe,wade,lebron can still excel with all eyes on them, vince can too at times. but NOW i think with vince still being a threat to the D we should let RJ take the lead until vince gets his motors going and i think RJ can continue to carry us, along with kidd, for a while. RJ is not a great 1v1 guy but once we get movement he can recieve the ball and go at the D and hes shown how successful he is doing that for us.</p>
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He is most efficient in the princeton/fast pace offense.</p>
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But he cant carry an offense, or at least cannot be looked upon as a go to scorer like the premier scorers in the league(Pierce, Wade, AI, Bryant, LBJ, Melo, Carter, etc)</p>
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agree, RJ is a sidekick in the league. that is no disrespect to RJ at all, but he just lacks some talent to be THE number one guy, but that doesnt stop him from trying to do everything he can to win a game and that is why RJ gets so much love. i think RJ is the perfect wing player to play with a big like duncan,kg,shaq. im not saying to get those guys because we obviously cant so he wont play with them but i think RJ is the best tag team partner you can have. RJ thrives in this system and it is made for him rather than vince. when a system is filled with system players then you get players to play at their max like the suns have. those guys are perfect for the system they run and that system makes them look better than what they are.</p>
now if you just have RJ on the floor as the primary scoring option, like a few years ago due to kmart being traded and kidd injured, then you have teams focusing all their attention to him and that makes it harder on him where guys like kobe,wade,lebron can still excel with all eyes on them, vince can too at times. but NOW i think with vince still being a threat to the D we should let RJ take the lead until vince gets his motors going and i think RJ can continue to carry us, along with kidd, for a while. RJ is not a great 1v1 guy but once we get movement he can recieve the ball and go at the D and hes shown how successful he is doing that for us.</p>
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They tryna boost RJ trade values,cuz he's havin' many touches than Vince.Dont get me wrong,he's a gifted playa.</p>
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Carter's been struggling, and that's why Jefferson has been getting more touches. In these last three games he has played like a superstar, we'll see if he can keep it going for all 82.</p>
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They tryna boost RJ trade values,cuz he's havin' many touches than Vince.Dont get me wrong,he's a gifted playa.</p>
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Carter's been struggling, and that's why Jefferson has been getting more touches. In these last three games he has played like a superstar, we'll see if he can keep it going for all 82.</p>
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I agree w/ xcalibur,''sidekick'' fits better.</p>
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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (jerkstore)</div><div class='quotemain'>RJ makes A.I look overrated. there's no reason he can't be a primary scorer.</div></p>
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Are you talking about Iggy or Iverson?..
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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (jerkstore)</div><div class='quotemain'>RJ makes A.I look overrated. there's no reason he can't be a primary scorer.</div></p>
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Are you talking about Iggy or Iverson?..
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Though RJ can't carry a team for 82 games, what big names can? Our Carter can't even get above twenty against a bunch of twenty two year olds.</p>
I like how he went with his game this year considering nobody thought he was worth anything.</p>
I like how he went with his game this year considering nobody thought he was worth anything.</p>
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obviously its unrealistic for 1 man to carry a team for 82 games plus playoffs, but the big time stars delivery 9 outta 10 times. they are almost perfect and you can expect their best most nights. you even see games where duncan is just horrible, which is like 1 outta 82, but luckily for him he is on a great team and can afford more than 1 or 2 bad games, assuming they are not important games like a clinching game. with us, vince has to bring it every night. we do not have the luxury of having a great team where we can dump it down to a big man and let him work and let him carry us then pick him up. vince has to bring it then games where he is off the rest of the guys will have to pick him up. so far we are picking vince up and that isnt what we are paying him to do. granted it is only 3 games, but im still thinkin about the playoffs too since it left a sour taste in my mouth.</p>
ps. does it piss anyone else off that after vince loses the ball at half court that he just give sup on running it down and lets the guy dunk/layp it up? at least jump and contest it. (im watching the encore and it was something i wanted to get off my chest).</p>
ps. does it piss anyone else off that after vince loses the ball at half court that he just give sup on running it down and lets the guy dunk/layp it up? at least jump and contest it. (im watching the encore and it was something i wanted to get off my chest).</p>
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If it wasnt 4 VC,the Nets would've never made the playoffs,dis past 2 yrs.Sum of yall need 2 stop hatin' on him.</p>
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If it wasnt 4 VC,the Nets would've never made the playoffs,dis past 2 yrs.Sum of yall need 2 stop hatin' on him.</p>
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i dont think its hate, just frustration. vince is obviously capable of being a top 10 guy in the league and great for us when he gets into the zone, but the last couple of games (this year and last) vince hasnt delivered. im not blaming the PO loss on him, but when you the main guy, the guy getting a huge contract you just gotta produce that is the bottom line.vince is such a likeable guy so every roots for him, but his play gets frustrating because you know he can do sooo much more than he is doing and just isnt doing it. i know vince won't be like this all year, but we have a bunch of home games coming up and he needs to snap outta his funk because we MUST take advantage of these home games or we will be behind the 8ball in a harder division and conference.</p>
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If it wasnt 4 VC,the Nets would've never made the playoffs,dis past 2 yrs.Sum of yall need 2 stop hatin' on him.</p>
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i dont think its hate, just frustration. vince is obviously capable of being a top 10 guy in the league and great for us when he gets into the zone, but the last couple of games (this year and last) vince hasnt delivered. im not blaming the PO loss on him, but when you the main guy, the guy getting a huge contract you just gotta produce that is the bottom line.vince is such a likeable guy so every roots for him, but his play gets frustrating because you know he can do sooo much more than he is doing and just isnt doing it. i know vince won't be like this all year, but we have a bunch of home games coming up and he needs to snap outta his funk because we MUST take advantage of these home games or we will be behind the 8ball in a harder division and conference.</p>
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If it wasnt 4 VC,the Nets would've never made the playoffs,dis past 2 yrs.Sum of yall need 2 stop hatin' on him.</p>
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i dont think its hate, just frustration. vince is obviously capable of being a top 10 guy in the league and great for us when he gets into the zone, but the last couple of games (this year and last) vince hasnt delivered. im not blaming the PO loss on him, but when you the main guy, the guy getting a huge contract you just gotta produce that is the bottom line.vince is such a likeable guy so every roots for him, but his play gets frustrating because you know he can do sooo much more than he is doing and just isnt doing it. i know vince won't be like this all year, but we have a bunch of home games coming up and he needs to snap outta his funk because we MUST take advantage of these home games or we will be behind the 8ball in a harder division and conference.</p>
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U watched all 3 games rite?..........Does VC get da ball enuff?...Be honest,cuz of RJ's form rite now,everything is based on him.I aint hatin' on RJ,im just statin' facts.VC is always slow 2 get in shape in beginnin' of da season.i know he'll pick it up next tuesday.</p>
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If it wasnt 4 VC,the Nets would've never made the playoffs,dis past 2 yrs.Sum of yall need 2 stop hatin' on him.</p>
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i dont think its hate, just frustration. vince is obviously capable of being a top 10 guy in the league and great for us when he gets into the zone, but the last couple of games (this year and last) vince hasnt delivered. im not blaming the PO loss on him, but when you the main guy, the guy getting a huge contract you just gotta produce that is the bottom line.vince is such a likeable guy so every roots for him, but his play gets frustrating because you know he can do sooo much more than he is doing and just isnt doing it. i know vince won't be like this all year, but we have a bunch of home games coming up and he needs to snap outta his funk because we MUST take advantage of these home games or we will be behind the 8ball in a harder division and conference.</p>
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U watched all 3 games rite?..........Does VC get da ball enuff?...Be honest,cuz of RJ's form rite now,everything is based on him.I aint hatin' on RJ,im just statin' facts.VC is always slow 2 get in shape in beginnin' of da season.i know he'll pick it up next tuesday.</p>
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the only thing that frustrates me is that the reports and VC himself has said he's worked so hard on his shot this off season, even by having a shooting coach. I know it's only the first 3 games, but wouldn't one assume he'd already be on a roll coming into the season with his shots after working so hard?
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If it wasnt 4 VC,the Nets would've never made the playoffs,dis past 2 yrs.Sum of yall need 2 stop hatin' on him.</p>
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i dont think its hate, just frustration. vince is obviously capable of being a top 10 guy in the league and great for us when he gets into the zone, but the last couple of games (this year and last) vince hasnt delivered. im not blaming the PO loss on him, but when you the main guy, the guy getting a huge contract you just gotta produce that is the bottom line.vince is such a likeable guy so every roots for him, but his play gets frustrating because you know he can do sooo much more than he is doing and just isnt doing it. i know vince won't be like this all year, but we have a bunch of home games coming up and he needs to snap outta his funk because we MUST take advantage of these home games or we will be behind the 8ball in a harder division and conference.</p>
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U watched all 3 games rite?..........Does VC get da ball enuff?...Be honest,cuz of RJ's form rite now,everything is based on him.I aint hatin' on RJ,im just statin' facts.VC is always slow 2 get in shape in beginnin' of da season.i know he'll pick it up next tuesday.</p>
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vince touches the ball basically every single play. whether hes on the block or at the top of the key, what he does with it depends on him. he is making nice passes though so that is a good sign. he is drawing some double teams and passing effectively out of them. what i hate is when vince is basically 1v1 on the baseline but then starts to backdown the defender isntead of just attacking the rim, the old vince woulda went at him hard but this vince likes to backdown more, which is good because he can get someone open, but he doesnt get himself going.</p>
because RJ has been so good so early everything should be going through RJ until he cools off or vince heats up. last year if RJ was hot we would still put the ball in vinces hand and hoped he would create or score, now we gotta keep riding the hot hand and taht is RJ.</p>
this wont be the vince all year, but like i said we have a bunch of home games coming up and sooner or later vince is going to get hot and it would be great if he starts tuesday.</p>
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If it wasnt 4 VC,the Nets would've never made the playoffs,dis past 2 yrs.Sum of yall need 2 stop hatin' on him.</p>
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i dont think its hate, just frustration. vince is obviously capable of being a top 10 guy in the league and great for us when he gets into the zone, but the last couple of games (this year and last) vince hasnt delivered. im not blaming the PO loss on him, but when you the main guy, the guy getting a huge contract you just gotta produce that is the bottom line.vince is such a likeable guy so every roots for him, but his play gets frustrating because you know he can do sooo much more than he is doing and just isnt doing it. i know vince won't be like this all year, but we have a bunch of home games coming up and he needs to snap outta his funk because we MUST take advantage of these home games or we will be behind the 8ball in a harder division and conference.</p>
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U watched all 3 games rite?..........Does VC get da ball enuff?...Be honest,cuz of RJ's form rite now,everything is based on him.I aint hatin' on RJ,im just statin' facts.VC is always slow 2 get in shape in beginnin' of da season.i know he'll pick it up next tuesday.</p>
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vince touches the ball basically every single play. whether hes on the block or at the top of the key, what he does with it depends on him. he is making nice passes though so that is a good sign. he is drawing some double teams and passing effectively out of them. what i hate is when vince is basically 1v1 on the baseline but then starts to backdown the defender isntead of just attacking the rim, the old vince woulda went at him hard but this vince likes to backdown more, which is good because he can get someone open, but he doesnt get himself going.</p>
because RJ has been so good so early everything should be going through RJ until he cools off or vince heats up. last year if RJ was hot we would still put the ball in vinces hand and hoped he would create or score, now we gotta keep riding the hot hand and taht is RJ.</p>
this wont be the vince all year, but like i said we have a bunch of home games coming up and sooner or later vince is going to get hot and it would be great if he starts tuesday.</p>
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This thread seems all wrong.</p>
Rj didn't necessarily carry the offense by himself...it was more of teamwork. I feel that the offense was carried not only by RJ, but by Kidd, Wright, Krstic, and whoever else stood up and contributed to offense, whether it was by making the shots, getting assists, playing good defense to get the fast break going, or getting offense rebounds (of which Krstic got 5 in 16 minutes!!!). None of these guys should get overlooked, and especially RJ AND Kidd, both of whom probably contributed the most.</p>
Rj didn't necessarily carry the offense by himself...it was more of teamwork. I feel that the offense was carried not only by RJ, but by Kidd, Wright, Krstic, and whoever else stood up and contributed to offense, whether it was by making the shots, getting assists, playing good defense to get the fast break going, or getting offense rebounds (of which Krstic got 5 in 16 minutes!!!). None of these guys should get overlooked, and especially RJ AND Kidd, both of whom probably contributed the most.</p>
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RJ has been amazing.</p>
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Black Republican, I don't think people are hating on Carter. He's just not playing as well as he could right now. Whether that's a byproduct of the new system, rust, or just a minor slump, we all hope he'll be able to step up back to his excellent self, and most of us believe he will. I think we all appreciate how much he's given to the Nets over the past couple years, we're just a little frustrated with his start to the season so far, because we know he can be (and has been) better.</p>
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Black Republican, I don't think people are hating on Carter. He's just not playing as well as he could right now. Whether that's a byproduct of the new system, rust, or just a minor slump, we all hope he'll be able to step up back to his excellent self, and most of us believe he will. I think we all appreciate how much he's given to the Nets over the past couple years, we're just a little frustrated with his start to the season so far, because we know he can be (and has been) better.</p>
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The phrase "carry the offense" is poorly defined.</p>
RJ is a Pierce/Melo level talent who's had trouble staying healthy. His greatest strength as a player is that he can pass up shots, and redivert that energy into being effective in other areas of the game, like defense and secondary offense (fast break points, backdoor cuts - anything opportunistic).</p>
Vince is more talented as a creator, but that's ALL he can do. RJ is a good, if not great, creator, but his real talent lies in his flexability.</p>
RJ is a Pierce/Melo level talent who's had trouble staying healthy. His greatest strength as a player is that he can pass up shots, and redivert that energy into being effective in other areas of the game, like defense and secondary offense (fast break points, backdoor cuts - anything opportunistic).</p>
Vince is more talented as a creator, but that's ALL he can do. RJ is a good, if not great, creator, but his real talent lies in his flexability.</p>
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rj can no doubt score and goes to another level in the playoffs but if nothing's working and ask him to create, he'll be in trouble...</p>
vc has talent like no other, can create but he too soft and will oftentimes disappear in the playoffs...</p>
jkidd can't shoot but is excellent at everything else...</p>
we need ALL of them to carry the team and a decent big man...</p>
vc has talent like no other, can create but he too soft and will oftentimes disappear in the playoffs...</p>
jkidd can't shoot but is excellent at everything else...</p>
we need ALL of them to carry the team and a decent big man...</p>
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Right now VC's hurt, RJ's just picking up the slack, hopefully we continue to run the princeton exclusively....and depend on it, when a basket is needed. Like i've mentioned before. Running a motion we go from a pick and roll 2 versus 5 matchup to a Princeton 5 versus 5 matchup. Tell me which is much more of a difficult defensive matchup?</p>
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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (ly_yng)</div><div class='quotemain'></p>
The phrase "carry the offense" is poorly defined.</p>
RJ is a Pierce/Melo level talent who's had trouble staying healthy. His greatest strength as a player is that he can pass up shots, and redivert that energy into being effective in other areas of the game, like defense and secondary offense (fast break points, backdoor cuts - anything opportunistic).</p>
Vince is more talented as a creator, but that's ALL he can do. RJ is a good, if not great, creator, but his real talent lies in his flexability.</p>
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I disagree. RJ is more effective when he doent need to create his own shot but rather he is better working in the flow of a motion offense. He is not as good as Melo/Pierce in terms of making his own shot and carrying an offense. He can create for himself but he is not as good when compared to the premier sfs/scorers such as Melo/pierce.</p>
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The phrase "carry the offense" is poorly defined.</p>
RJ is a Pierce/Melo level talent who's had trouble staying healthy. His greatest strength as a player is that he can pass up shots, and redivert that energy into being effective in other areas of the game, like defense and secondary offense (fast break points, backdoor cuts - anything opportunistic).</p>
Vince is more talented as a creator, but that's ALL he can do. RJ is a good, if not great, creator, but his real talent lies in his flexability.</p>
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I disagree. RJ is more effective when he doent need to create his own shot but rather he is better working in the flow of a motion offense. He is not as good as Melo/Pierce in terms of making his own shot and carrying an offense. He can create for himself but he is not as good when compared to the premier sfs/scorers such as Melo/pierce.</p>
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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (ly_yng)</div><div class='quotemain'></p>
The phrase "carry the offense" is poorly defined.</p>
RJ is a Pierce/Melo level talent who's had trouble staying healthy. His greatest strength as a player is that he can pass up shots, and redivert that energy into being effective in other areas of the game, like defense and secondary offense (fast break points, backdoor cuts - anything opportunistic).</p>
Vince is more talented as a creator, but that's ALL he can do. RJ is a good, if not great, creator, but his real talent lies in his flexability.</p>
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I disagree,mello & pierce can create their own shots</p>
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The phrase "carry the offense" is poorly defined.</p>
RJ is a Pierce/Melo level talent who's had trouble staying healthy. His greatest strength as a player is that he can pass up shots, and redivert that energy into being effective in other areas of the game, like defense and secondary offense (fast break points, backdoor cuts - anything opportunistic).</p>
Vince is more talented as a creator, but that's ALL he can do. RJ is a good, if not great, creator, but his real talent lies in his flexability.</p>
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I disagree,mello & pierce can create their own shots</p>
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I think most Nets fans expect RJ to average somewhere around 20 ppg this year, should he stay healthy. He's playing above that now, but not by all that much (it's only been three games). Works outa lotbetter when Carter, Nachbar, Krstic and Kidd are your other options instead of Jacque Vaughn, Ron Mercer, and Rodney Buford.</p>
