I REALLY Like This Idea/Program!

[ABM]

Today, I sold some windows to a counselor who works for LaSalle High School in the Milwaukie area. Anyway, while talking to her about various topics, she related to me a program that their sister school in North Portland has begun.

Very cool! (perhaps, as one example, this is kind of what Gingrich had in mind all along....)

http://www.delasallenorth.org/corporate-internship-program/

Corporate Internship Program

Our work-study program engages local and national companies to provide a wide range of work experiences. Students are employed throughout the Portland metro area in diverse settings, including financial institutions, healthcare, hospitality, law firms, retail, and universities. Sponsoring companies contract with the Corporate Internship Program to fill full-time entry-level positions with De La Salle North students. Each student works five days per month in a job-sharing team comprised of four students. Working in a rotating schedule, each team fills one FTE job in a standard Monday-through-Friday business week schedule. The program sets the tone for student behavior and expectations in the workplace and in the classroom.

New students participate in a summer training program to prepare them for the expectations of the business world. Training includes the importance of making a positive first impression, guidelines for professional office attire, honing communication skills and customer service, and operating basic office equipment. Through participation in the Corporate Internship Program, students receive academic credit and gain valuable real-world experience, equipping them for life beyond high school.

 

[MARIS61]

Obviously illegal slave labor with no educational benefit to the student that I can see.

 

[ABM]

Obviously illegal slave labor with no educational benefit to the student that I can see.

But, of course, MARIS.

 

[HailBlazers]

Experience is what counts these days anyway. Ask my 26 year old friend with an MBA and little work experience how well his job hunt is coming.

 

[ABM]

Experience is what counts these days anyway. Ask my 26 year old friend with an MBA and little work experience how well his job hunt is coming.

In MARIS' mind, developing some work ethic early-on in life = illegal slave labor.

 

[ABM]

In MARIS' mind, developing some work ethic early-on in life = illegal slave labor.

Not to mention, this school is in North Portland.

Think about it.

 

[magnifier661]

Obviously illegal slave labor with no educational benefit to the student that I can see.

Dude you have no idea what shit I had to go through just to get into the music industry. I had to play A&R bitch boy for 2 years before they gave me a shot at "street team bitch boy" for another year. Both were free gigs just for experience. Some of the A&R reps told me they had to work for free for 5 years before they had a paying gig.

 

[jlprk]

Each student works five days per month in a job-sharing team comprised of four students. Working in a rotating schedule, each team fills one FTE job in a standard Monday-through-Friday business week schedule.

5 full days per month for the whole school year for 4 years? So like 1/4 of their high school days? So they get the equivalent of 3 years of school at a 4-year high school. It's as if they skipped their senior years. Quality colleges won't accept them.

Most high schools have something like that for a week in the senior year and then they write a project about what they saw.

she related to me a program that their sister school in North Portland has begun.

How come nowadays we have all this sissy sister talk? Do you call them brother schools 50% of the time? What's wrong with related or associated?

 

[ABM]

We hold our students to high standards, and they work hard. On top of the daily course load, our students balance the demands of working five days per month. After-school tutoring, called Tutor in Progress (TIP), is offered for students with extra needs, and many students stay to meet with teachers for further instruction after normal school hours. Our students have a high degree of adaptation and flexibility.

To graduate, students must earn a minimum of 32 credits in 10 subject areas. During all four years, they maintain a heavy load of college prep courses and work at local corporations and nonprofit organizations. The hours of study both in class and at home train our students to prioritize their time, follow through with commitments, and persevere when expectations are demanding. These expectations are supported through strong relationships with a dedicated faculty and counseling staff, who ensure that our students have the help they need to be competent, faith-filled, and college ready.

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[ABM]

Quality colleges won't accept them.

I would HIGHLY doubt that.

 

[ABM]

How come nowadays we have all this sissy sister talk?

It's a Catholic school. Get it?

 

[BLAZINGGIANTS]

Experience is what counts these days anyway. Ask my 26 year old friend with an MBA and little work experience how well his job hunt is coming.

So true. I surpassed a few peers who had far "greater" education than I did. I worked hard as an intern, and found a school that had a respected program in my field that would allow me to manage the internship and the studies. And I saw a lot of people pay more money for educations at "better" schools. Well, I have advanced further in my near-decade in the "real world", make good money, have far less in student loans, and have already moved on to accept better opportunities at greener pastures.

It's going to be interesting how "higher education" changes over the next decade, as people continue to struggle, and tuition continues to increase at staggering rates.

 

[jlprk]

You can always swear off sex and join a convent.

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[ABM]

You can always swear off sex and join a convent.

That reminds me, have you ever heard of the story surrounding Martin Luther's wife?

http://www.reformationtours.com/site/490868/page/204052

 

[jlprk]

So a gang of 11 nuns escaped a convent. Imagine if Homeland Security had been involved. They would have killed them with drones that fly faster than a nun.

 

[ABM]

So a gang of 11 nuns escaped a convent. Imagine if Homeland Security had been involved. They would have killed them with drones that fly faster than a nun.

I can only imagine that the droning on of Mother Superior, effectively, would have been their worse option.

 

[mook]

The program sounds like a great way for companies to lay off unskilled office temps and get high schoolers to do their photocopying and coffee making done for them for free. Win-win.

Who cares if these kids miss lots of classes in history, english, math, science, etc. That shit is for rubes. Kids need to get on their goddamned career track by the age of 13 or they'll get left behind. You think the software engineers at Google fucked around with those liberal elitist bullshit math classes? Fuck no. You are not getting into a decent university if you don't get real world experience with a stack of papers and a stapler.

I say we go even earlier. Let's take a long hard look at Gingrich's idea of raising a legion of grade school janitors. We're getting our asses handed to us internationally when it comes to pretty much every measure of primary and secondary education, and this is exactly the kind of program that can turn it around. Germany is always going to need people who can staple.

 

[BLAZINGGIANTS]

The program sounds like a great way for companies to lay off unskilled office temps and get high schoolers to do their photocopying and coffee making done for them for free. Win-win.

Who cares if these kids miss lots of classes in history, english, math, science, etc. That shit is for rubes. Kids need to get on their goddamned career track by the age of 13 or they'll get left behind. You think the software engineers at Google fucked around with those liberal elitist bullshit math classes? Fuck no. You are not getting into a decent university if you don't get real world experience with a stack of papers and a stapler.

I say we go even earlier. Let's take a long hard look at Gingrich's idea of raising a legion of grade school janitors. We're getting our asses handed to us internationally when it comes to pretty much every measure of primary and secondary education, and this is exactly the kind of program that can turn it around. Germany is always going to need people who can staple.

Come on, Mook.... Tell us how you really feel.

On a side note.... not sure I follow the dig on Germany. Generally speaking, they work a lot harder for less money (albeit better long-term benefits) than their equivalents here in the US. And they have some good on-the-job training programs for those close to being out of HS.

 

[ABM]

The program sounds like a great way for companies to lay off unskilled office temps and get high schoolers to do their photocopying and coffee making done for them for free. Win-win.

Actually, the various employers pay for the labor. The money is sent to the school to help off-set the the student's tuition.

 

[mook]

Actually, the various employers pay for the labor. The money is sent to the school to help off-set the the student's tuition.

Well that's cool. So the temp is laid off so the business can pay the school not to educate the student. I don't see the payment amount listed on the site. I'm guessing it's so fantastic they dare not show it.

Anyway, yeah, I've had a certain amount of experience with unpaid internships at the college level. Some can be great, but a lot of them are complete ripoffs. At the high school level I'd be much, much more impressed with vocational programs focused at giving non-college-bound kids experience in a trade. Helping somebody do actual electrical work or plumbing seems like more valuable experience for the non-college-bound than "the importance of making a positive first impression, guidelines for professional office attire, honing communication skills and customer service, and operating basic office equipment." That shit sounds about as improving as watching a 10 hour "The Office" marathon, or the con-job that is being an Enterprise Rent-A-Car employee.

 

[mook]

Come on, Mook.... Tell us how you really feel.

On a side note.... not sure I follow the dig on Germany. Generally speaking, they work a lot harder for less money (albeit better long-term benefits) than their equivalents here in the US. And they have some good on-the-job training programs for those close to being out of HS.

I was referencing Germany as one of many countries that regularly outscores our kids in math and science. If that country doesn't work for you, feel free to pick another. It's a pretty long list.

 

[Denny Crane]

I was referencing Germany as one of many countries that regularly outscores our kids in math and science. If that country doesn't work for you, feel free to pick another. It's a pretty long list.

Look for... The union label....

Or better yet, our educational decline coincides with the growth of the dept. of education.

You choose.

 

[ABM]

I thought this was a rather interesting research project, FWIW..

http://www.cu-portland.edu/coe/thesis/documents/rebecca snyder ar.pdf

 

[ABM]

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[SlyPokerDog]

Do they have a program where I can help with teen pregnancy?

 

[BLAZINGGIANTS]

I was referencing Germany as one of many countries that regularly outscores our kids in math and science. If that country doesn't work for you, feel free to pick another. It's a pretty long list.

From what I've been able to gather about Germany, their education system is solid, but they also provide real-life work experience through schooling, which is what I'm assuming the program that the OP was discussing to be a similar concept. Which is why I don't get the hate for the program.... if it seems to work in other countries, why not here?

On a side note, HCP, you'd be screwed in Germany. The Polish are to Germany as Mexicans are to the US. There's no work for you there, son. Be glad the NBA is back to work!

 

[The_Lillard_King]

So true. I surpassed a few peers who had far "greater" education than I did. I worked hard as an intern, and found a school that had a respected program in my field that would allow me to manage the internship and the studies. And I saw a lot of people pay more money for educations at "better" schools. Well, I have advanced further in my near-decade in the "real world", make good money, have far less in student loans, and have already moved on to accept better opportunities at greener pastures.

It's going to be interesting how "higher education" changes over the next decade, as people continue to struggle, and tuition continues to increase at staggering rates.

Completely agree. I believe the landscape of a college degree will be changing over the next 25 years. Being able to get a degree through a correspondence classes, satellite campuses and using the internet will grow more and more. Experiencing a Ivy league or Stanford education (living on campus) is great experience, but not for the price tag.

Get a college degree from a major university on line really reduces costs and will be the wave of the future, IMO.

 

[ABM]

Completely agree. I believe the landscape of a college degree will be changing over the next 25 years. Being able to get a degree through a correspondence classes, satellite campuses and using the internet will grow more and more. Experiencing a Ivy league or Stanford education (living on campus) is great experience, but not for the price tag.

Get a college degree from a major university on line really reduces costs and will be the wave of the future, IMO.

Currently, so many are working outside their educational expertise. Seems various employers simply want to see the sheepskin, not necessarily in the specific field of study.