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Davis yes, Aminu I'm not so sure. Has his stock gone up or down since last summer? I can see a pretty good argument being made for 'down' and a somewhat weak one for 'up'.
 
Aminu would get paid. Fairly good D, stepped it up in the playoffs and had success playing a stretch 4 at times.
 
Stepped it up in the playoffs? I remember them daring him to shoot because it was a major weakness in the offense. He lit it up a few games, making the percentages deceiving relative to his actual impact. If anything, I think the playoffs exposed him as being less valuable than he looked early in the season.
 
handiman said:
Stepped it up in the playoffs? I remember them daring him to shoot because it was a major weakness in the offense. He lit it up a few games, making the percentages deceiving relative to his actual impact. If anything, I think the playoffs exposed him as being less valuable than he looked early in the season.
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14.6 PPG while shooting 40% from 3 48% from 2 and getting 8.6 rebounds a game. He was infuriating at times when he was missing and passing up open shots but to say that the playoffs knocked his value down is completely wrong imo.
 
handiman said:
Davis yes, Aminu I'm not so sure. Has his stock gone up or down since last summer? I can see a pretty good argument being made for 'down' and a somewhat weak one for 'up'.
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What?
 
Aminu was obviously a key to our success. He was our third option on offense, and was our best two way player.

I was a fan of the signing when it happened, and I still am. He's going to continue to be a key player for us and I expect the outcome to be positive. He may not always be the starter, should we end up with a better talent, but that's true of just about every position outside of PG.
 
Rhal said:
He was infuriating at times when he was missing and passing up open shots.
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He's inconsistent. When he passes them up, it's for a reason--he's missing them. Also, he dribbles like a maniac.
 
I'm glad Aminu finally had some games where he hit shots but he did so when he was completely ignored due to shooting being his weakness. I still have very little idea if he can shoot with anyone within 10' of him and I'm fairly convinced he does not have much in terms of ball-handling or creating skills.
 
should the blazers have signed another mid tier guy (davis, aminu) long term last offseason? those types are going to be making 12MM per in the new cap reality.
 
TBpup said:
I'm glad Aminu finally had some games where he hit shots but he did so when he was completely ignored due to shooting being his weakness. I still have very little idea if he can shoot with anyone within 10' of him and I'm fairly convinced he does not have much in terms of ball-handling or creating skills.
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Yay, someone who can analyze beyond the box score!
 
Aminue is what he is and he did nothing in the playoffs that would have lowered his value. He was open for a reason and he hit 40% of his shots, yes it sucked when he would pass open 3's and he did that a lot even with him being timid he stepped it up in the playoffs and he kept up playing D regardless of how he was doing offensively. Aminu's is and has always been inconsistent offensively and his dribbling is worse then Mathews was as well as his ball handling skills being subpar, but these are all knocks that were already known about him when he was signed. Even for all of Aminu's weaknesses his play in the playoffs and last year was exactly what we wanted him to do and he did it.
I'm not sure how someone could watch Aminu play all of last year and think he is worth less then 8% of the cap which is roughly what he will be taking up once the new cap goes into place.
 
Aminu's overall shooting percentage misrepresents his offensive liability on a game to game basis. He's dared to shoot and occasionally gets quite hot, but he's being dared for a reason. Defenses know that plays to their advantage more games than not.

He started the season as a solid, potentially great, D-and-3 guy. He tried to morph into a 3-and-D guy and became a worse player as a result.
 
Whatever Kent Bazemore ends up getting I think is dang close to what Aminu would have gotten. And I expect Bazemore to make anywhere between 14 and 18 MIL a year.
 
KeepOnRollin said:
Whatever Kent Bazemore ends up getting I think is dang close to what Aminu would have gotten. And I expect Bazemore to make anywhere between 14 and 18 MIL a year.
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That is probably about right but it's so tough to get used to someone like Bazemore making that type of money. Solid role-player/#6 guy but $14+ million staggers the mind.
 
Yeah 15m sounds about right. Maybe more. I'm fully expecting Crabbe and Harkless to fetch anywhere between 10-15 and neither had as consistent of a year as Aminu.
 
Aminu is the definition of an average NBA player.. However much that's worth, I don't know
 
Any player that can guard KD is better than average, even if he brought nothing else to the table.
 
handiman said:
Stepped it up in the playoffs? I remember them daring him to shoot because it was a major weakness in the offense. He lit it up a few games, making the percentages deceiving relative to his actual impact. If anything, I think the playoffs exposed him as being less valuable than he looked early in the season.
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Last season Aminu was every bit as feast or famine as Batum, if not more so, with less offensive production, and zero ball handling or passing skills, but never got called on it.
 
BBert said:
Last season Aminu was every bit as feast or famine as Batum, if not more so, with less offensive production, and zero ball handling or passing skills, but never got called on it.
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I think Aminu benefited from low expectations. I am surprised he's gotten such a free pass with how horrific he was offensively in all but a few of the playoff games, though.

He's actually lucky he signed before the cap explosion. I imagine he'd be quickly villified on a $15-20M/yr contract, with how out of control and streaky he is.
 
Considering how new our starting lineup was last season...I wouldn't compare the roster to the previous roster who played many years together. Chief worked in practice on his 3 pt shot with good results..he defended the hardest guys to defend in the league night in and night out and without him, we miss the playoffs. He's young, he's cheap and he gives a lot to the defensive success of the team. I don't get the hate
 
BBert said:
Last season Aminu was every bit as feast or famine as Batum, if not more so, with less offensive production, and zero ball handling or passing skills, but never got called on it.
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CJ was essentially taking over as the secondary ball handler. Aminu was only filling part of batums position in the offense. Meanwhile Batum is about to get maxed and I'm glad we are not the ones doing it.
 
riverman said:
Considering how new our starting lineup was last season...I wouldn't compare the roster to the previous roster who played many years together. Chief worked in practice on his 3 pt shot with good results..he defended the hardest guys to defend in the league night in and night out and without him, we miss the playoffs. He's young, he's cheap and he gives a lot to the defensive success of the team. I don't get the hate
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What hate?
 
BBert said:
What hate?
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the focus on his couple playoff games where he was pressured to be the scorer and didn't shoot that well shouldn't overshadow the bulk of his contribution to even making the playoffs...even during games a lot of posters were pretty down on him...most analysis shows he was an asset to the team but I keep reading what his weaknesses are as if they're set in stone. I used the word hate and that's probably too strong but he doesn't seem to have many fans around here...I'm a fan of his game. He can improve, sure. I completely disagree with the feast or famine Batum comparison...that's my analysis. He never checked out of play action on the court or seemed lethargic to me or afraid to shoot if there was a shot. I think Aminu at the price is a steal and a keeper.
 
handiman said:
I think Aminu benefited from low expectations. I am surprised he's gotten such a free pass with how horrific he was offensively in all but a few of the playoff games, though.
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Except he wasn't horrific offensively in all but a few playoff games. Yes, he got off to a slow start against LAC and was hesitating on his shot, even when wide open.

Crabbe also got off to a horrible start in the LAC series. He scored a total of 6 points in the first three games and didn't hit his first 3 of the playoffs until halfway through the second quarter of Game 4 of the LAC series.

Game 4 of the LAC series is also where Aminu came alive. Without his 30 points, 10 rebounds, 3 assists and 3 blocks, we probably don't win Game 4 and go back to LA down 3-1 and likely don't win that series.

But, it was the GSW series where Aminu really played consistently well. He scored above his season average in every game, didn't have a single bad shooting game. In the five games against GSW, Aminu scored between 14 and 23 points in every game. He averaged 17.2 ppg and 8.4 rpg on .536 FG% and .552 3FG%.

If anything, Aminu was our most consistent player in in the GSW series. Lillard scored a lot, but he also had three horrific shooting games (8-26, 10-30 and 7-24). C.J. shot pretty poorly for the entire series. Crabbe had a good series overall, but even he was up and down - like he was in the LAC series.

Overall, Aminu's TS% in that series was .687 and he didn't have a single "horrific" offensive game. Overall, in the playoffs, he was at least as consistent as his teammates, more so than most. All of Lillard, C.J., Plumlee, Crabbe, Harkless, etc. all had some horrific games. It doesn't seem fair to single out Aminu when he had more good games than bad ones.

Is he inconsistent, sure, but overall, he did not hurt his value in the playoffs. Unless you think everyone else on the team did, too.

BNM
 
Boob-No-More said:
Except he wasn't horrific offensively in all but a few playoff games. Yes, he got off to a slow start against LAC and was hesitating on his shot, even when wide open.

Crabbe also got off to a horrible start in the LAC series. He scored a total of 6 points in the first three games and didn't hit his first 3 of the playoffs until halfway through the second quarter of Game 4 of the LAC series.

Game 4 of the LAC series is also where Aminu came alive. Without his 30 points, 10 rebounds, 3 assists and 3 blocks, we probably don't win Game 4 and go back to LA down 3-1 and likely don't win that series.

But, it was the GSW series where Aminu really played consistently well. He scored above his season average in every game, didn't have a single bad shooting game. In the five games against GSW, Aminu scored between 14 and 23 points in every game. He averaged 17.2 ppg and 8.4 rpg on .536 FG% and .552 3FG%.

If anything, Aminu was our most consistent player in in the GSW series. Lillard scored a lot, but he also had three horrific shooting games (8-26, 10-30 and 7-24). C.J. shot pretty poorly for the entire series. Crabbe had a good series overall, but even he was up and down - like he was in the LAC series.

Overall, Aminu's TS% in that series was .687 and he didn't have a single "horrific" offensive game. Overall, in the playoffs, he was at least as consistent as his teammates, more so than most. All of Lillard, C.J., Plumlee, Crabbe, Harkless, etc. all had some horrific games. It doesn't seem fair to single out Aminu when he had more good games than bad ones.

Is he inconsistent, sure, but overall, he did not hurt his value in the playoffs. Unless you think everyone else on the team did, too.

BNM
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People seem to hate Aminu.... and he can certainly be frustrating at times, but I never get the impression that he's coasting, which was an issue that I had with Batum.
 
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