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Think about one day waking up as the Nets GM,..........(dont kill yourself yet)

What off-season moves would u make?

Include all criterias..

E.G: a move can be, FIRE coach FRANK replace With XXXXXX

Talk about all the free agent moves, personale moves etc..



REMEMBER THIS POST IS JUST MERE SPECULATION/ MUCH OF A PERSONAL PREFERENCE THING.
 
trade rj and swift, first round picks for brand. trade marcus for jarret jack or bellinelli., krstic for QO. sign azuibuike. try and package hassel for anything. resign boki for the vets min, cant resign diop, not enough PT. IDK just the rough idea


devin/
vc/bellinelli
azuibuike/boki
brand/sean
boone/krstic
 
Try to move either carter or rj for future cap space (lebron) preferrebly move vince and his HUGE contract. Then regardless if we make the playoffs or not fire Frank, and offer the job to Larry Brown who is looking to come back to the NBA. The players that shoud stay from our current roster are ( my opinion ) D Harris, M Williams, Agger,Boki, RJ, Swat, Boone, Diop.
Then i would take a good SG swingman with our first and second pick because we are loaded with Bigs, and in case we get Dallas pick then take a promising Big. so first pick for the nets a swing player, then with Mavs pick a big man, and with our 2nd round pick another swing playa.

Thats a start i think...
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Jizzy @ Mar 28 2008, 01:23 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>trade rj and swift, first round picks for brand. trade marcus for jarret jack or bellinelli., krstic for QO. sign azuibuike. try and package hassel for anything. resign boki for the vets min, cant resign diop, not enough PT. IDK just the rough idea


devin/
vc/bellinelli
azuibuike/boki
brand/sean
boone/krstic</div>

Not enough playing time on a 9-man roster?

jigga.jpg

<span style="font-size:8pt;line-height:100%">(thanks peg)</span>
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (GMJigga @ Mar 28 2008, 02:14 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Jizzy @ Mar 28 2008, 01:23 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>trade rj and swift, first round picks for brand. trade marcus for jarret jack or bellinelli., krstic for QO. sign azuibuike. try and package hassel for anything. resign boki for the vets min, cant resign diop, not enough PT. IDK just the rough idea


devin/
vc/bellinelli
azuibuike/boki
brand/sean
boone/krstic</div>

Not enough playing time on a 9-man roster?

jigga.jpg

<span style="font-size:8pt;line-height:100%">(thanks peg)</span>
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reminds me of the family guy episode when peter had a stroke
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (GMJigga @ Mar 28 2008, 01:14 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Jizzy @ Mar 28 2008, 01:23 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>trade rj and swift, first round picks for brand. trade marcus for jarret jack or bellinelli., krstic for QO. sign azuibuike. try and package hassel for anything. resign boki for the vets min, cant resign diop, not enough PT. IDK just the rough idea


devin/
vc/bellinelli
azuibuike/boki
brand/sean
boone/krstic</div>

Not enough playing time on a 9-man roster?

jigga.jpg

<span style="font-size:8pt;line-height:100%">(thanks peg)</span>
</div>



Lol i laughed for about 10 minutes because of that pic... hahaha
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (GMJigga @ Mar 28 2008, 02:14 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Jizzy @ Mar 28 2008, 01:23 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>trade rj and swift, first round picks for brand. trade marcus for jarret jack or bellinelli., krstic for QO. sign azuibuike. try and package hassel for anything. resign boki for the vets min, cant resign diop, not enough PT. IDK just the rough idea


devin/
vc/bellinelli
azuibuike/boki
brand/sean
boone/krstic</div>

Not enough playing time on a 9-man roster?

jigga.jpg

<span style="font-size:8pt;line-height:100%">(thanks peg)</span>
</div>
you just wanted to post that pic
 
We need shooters, shooters and more shooters. Maybe we can get Stephen Curry, or Douglass-Roberts. Or try to pry away a guy like James Jones from Portland or even Redick from Orlando, or Salim Stoudemire from Atlanta. Or take a flyer on Gerald Green. Any of those guys would help.

And of course anyone with anything resembling a post game would be nice. If they have 2 picks and don't trade 1, with the second pick they need to try to find this year's version of Craig Smith or Big Baby. An earth-mover who just bulldozes dudes.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Jizzy @ Mar 28 2008, 02:23 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>trade rj and swift, first round picks for brand.</div>

How does this deal benefit the Clippers? They already have their SF of the future in Thornton.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>trade marcus for jarret jack or bellinelli.</div>

Yes, Portland wants to get rid of Jack, but Marcus isn't an upgrade to their PG position. They already have a young PG with great vision that plays no defense.

Why would Golden State make that deal? Azubuike, Barnes and Pietrus are all free agents this summer.
 
PG - Devin Harris / Marcus Williams / Anthony Johnson
SG - Vince Carter / Nicolas Batum / Trenton Hassell
SF - Richard Jefferson / James Jones
PF - Sean Williams / Stromile Swift / Robin Lopez
C - Josh Boone / Nenad Krstic / Omer Asik
 
im pretty sure stephen curry isn't going to declare for this years draft.

i wish there was a way to pry away elton brand... but it seems like the clippers have someone at every position besides PG... and i don't wanna give harris away. Possibly marcus rj and 2 picks in a sign and trade? I think a post up big man and a shooter are our first priorities.

i wanna re-visit the mike miller deal. I think we can pry him away from memphis with our assets.

If we were to just go with the draft we need shooters, a backup shooter that can play defense. we need someone other than trenton hassell coming in for vince / rj that can play D. We are giving up too many points. We already have too many developing big men... adding anymore will just hurt the playing time on our 4 and 5 positions and would just give less time for them to develop. If we do get a big man, the big man should be an established postup player via trade / free agency. Every good team has a dominating big man that can score on his own.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (logik15 @ Mar 29 2008, 11:36 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>im pretty sure stephen curry isn't going to declare for this years draft.

i wish there was a way to pry away elton brand... but it seems like the clippers have someone at every position besides PG... and i don't wanna give harris away. Possibly marcus rj and 2 picks in a sign and trade? I think a post up big man and a shooter are our first priorities.

i wanna re-visit the mike miller deal. I think we can pry him away from memphis with our assets.

If we were to just go with the draft we need shooters, a backup shooter that can play defense. we need someone other than trenton hassell coming in for vince / rj that can play D. We are giving up too many points. We already have too many developing big men... adding anymore will just hurt the playing time on our 4 and 5 positions and would just give less time for them to develop. If we do get a big man, the big man should be an established postup player via trade / free agency. Every good team has a dominating big man that can score on his own.</div>


the clips dont have anyone at PF after brand. trade sean
 
No. Dont trade sean or rj. The clips are rebuilding which means they will want picks IF they want to deal brand. thats why cassel isnt there anymore. and why rj? they have thorton at sf who is younger and better in my opinion.

They will want expiring contracts, picks and cash.
 
First of all, it's too early for this exercise...since you don't yet know the value of the picks...or how many you will have.

If the Nets make the playoffs and Mavs don't, you get #15 and #45.

If the Nets miss the playoffs and the Mavs squeak in, you could get as high as #10, #18 and #40...with the chance of moving up in the lottery with the #10 on May 20.

If both teams miss the playoffs, you could wind up with #10 and #40 with a chance to move up in the lottery with the #10.

Historically, the Nets try to trade up when they have multiple picks, even a first and a second. Assume the Nets get #10 and #18, they might be able to move up by offering #10, #18 and the 2010 Mavs' unprotected first round pick. They tried to move up in 2006 by offering #22 and #23 to the Sonics for the #10. It almost worked. Luckily, it didn't. They were considering Hilton Armstrong and Saer Sene...according to Filip Bondy's book, "Tip Off".

Most likely scenario is they wind up with something like #11, #19 and #41. I believe they will use one of those picks on a Euro who they will stash overseas for a year.

Barring significant changes in that scenario, take a lights out shooter (Rush) with one pick, a Euro (Claver or Ibaka?) with another and best player available.

Encourage Swift to leave or even buy him out.

Depending on what Krstic does the rest of way, offer him either a four-year deal starting just above MLE level with a team option after two or the qualifying offer.

Offer Diop a three year deal starting at $4 million. Be prepared to go higher or longer. Watch Cuban make a bid.

Offer Nachbar no more than a three year deal starting at $3 million...maybe less.

Wait to see what Brand and O'Neal do with their options. Both are damaged goods right now and I am not sure whether they will opt out. Neither will have any record this year on which to base a new contract, so it might be smart of them not to opt out. I am told reliably Brand WILL opt out. No one believes O'Neal will, but if he wants to move this summer, opting out might be the smartest way to go. Both those guys have to be looking for job security long term after their injuries.

Be prepared to offer either or both Williams in packages for them or other big scoring men, whoever they may be.

Offer the full MLE or close to it to Sasha Vujacic. Let the Lakers match.

Rather than use the vets minimum, MLE, LLE or TE's on aging vets, take a chance on a young guy.
 
I liked everything, and agreed with everything, up until I got to this:

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (NetIncome)</div><div class='quotemain'>Offer the full MLE or close to it to Sasha Vujacic. Let the Lakers match.</div>



Sasha's worse than Boki, at everything. I'd hope to god the Lakers match, because Sasha doesn't even deserve half the MLE.

We'd be better off offering it up to someone like James Jones, Keith Bogans, Childress, Azuibuke, Barnes...someone who's actually good, and who actually attempts to play good defense.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (pegs @ Mar 29 2008, 03:40 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>I liked everything, and agreed with everything, up until I got to this:

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (NetIncome)</div><div class='quotemain'>Offer the full MLE or close to it to Sasha Vujacic. Let the Lakers match.</div>



Sasha's worse than Boki, at everything. I'd hope to god the Lakers match, because Sasha doesn't even deserve half the MLE.

We'd be better off offering it up to someone like James Jones, Keith Bogans, Childress, Azuibuke, Barnes...someone who's actually good, and who actually attempts to play good defense.
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Bogans or Azuibuke? LoL. Now THAT'S funny.

I guess you don't watch Lakers games much.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (NetIncome @ Mar 29 2008, 04:50 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (pegs @ Mar 29 2008, 03:40 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>I liked everything, and agreed with everything, up until I got to this:

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (NetIncome)</div><div class='quotemain'>Offer the full MLE or close to it to Sasha Vujacic. Let the Lakers match.</div>



Sasha's worse than Boki, at everything. I'd hope to god the Lakers match, because Sasha doesn't even deserve half the MLE.

We'd be better off offering it up to someone like James Jones, Keith Bogans, Childress, Azuibuke, Barnes...someone who's actually good, and who actually attempts to play good defense.
</div>

Bogans or Azuibuke? LoL. Now THAT'S funny.

I guess you don't watch Lakers games much.
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I've seen enough Lakers games to know that Sasha is a chucker who sucks at defense. No thanks, don't need another Boki.

And I've seen enough Magic games (because of my friend, who is a fan of the Magic and watches them online all the time) to know that Bogans is the best perimeter defender on Orlando.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (pegs @ Mar 29 2008, 03:53 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (NetIncome @ Mar 29 2008, 04:50 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (pegs @ Mar 29 2008, 03:40 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>I liked everything, and agreed with everything, up until I got to this:

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (NetIncome)</div><div class='quotemain'>Offer the full MLE or close to it to Sasha Vujacic. Let the Lakers match.</div>



Sasha's worse than Boki, at everything. I'd hope to god the Lakers match, because Sasha doesn't even deserve half the MLE.

We'd be better off offering it up to someone like James Jones, Keith Bogans, Childress, Azuibuke, Barnes...someone who's actually good, and who actually attempts to play good defense.
</div>

Bogans or Azuibuke? LoL. Now THAT'S funny.

I guess you don't watch Lakers games much.
</div>

I've seen enough Lakers games to know that Sasha is a chucker who sucks at defense. No thanks, don't need another Boki.

And I've seen enough Magic games (because of my friend, who is a fan of the Magic and watches them online all the time) to know that Bogans is the best perimeter defender on Orlando.
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So what you really mean is that Vujacic can shoot and Bogans can't.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (NetIncome @ Mar 29 2008, 05:42 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (pegs @ Mar 29 2008, 03:53 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (NetIncome @ Mar 29 2008, 04:50 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (pegs @ Mar 29 2008, 03:40 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>I liked everything, and agreed with everything, up until I got to this:

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (NetIncome)</div><div class='quotemain'>Offer the full MLE or close to it to Sasha Vujacic. Let the Lakers match.</div>



Sasha's worse than Boki, at everything. I'd hope to god the Lakers match, because Sasha doesn't even deserve half the MLE.

We'd be better off offering it up to someone like James Jones, Keith Bogans, Childress, Azuibuke, Barnes...someone who's actually good, and who actually attempts to play good defense.
</div>

Bogans or Azuibuke? LoL. Now THAT'S funny.

I guess you don't watch Lakers games much.
</div>

I've seen enough Lakers games to know that Sasha is a chucker who sucks at defense. No thanks, don't need another Boki.

And I've seen enough Magic games (because of my friend, who is a fan of the Magic and watches them online all the time) to know that Bogans is the best perimeter defender on Orlando.
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So what you really mean is that Vujacic can shoot and Bogans can't.

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No, what I really mean is that there's no point in trying to get Vujacic because we already have a similar (and better) player in Boki.

I don't know where you're getting the idea that Bogans can't shoot, either. He is, in fact, a very good shooter. I'd take him any day over the chucker/4-14 wonder Vujacic. Bogans is definitely the better overall player.
 
Vujacic has been pretty good on the offensive side of the ball for the Lakers this year, but part of me wonders if it's only because it's contract time for him.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Charles @ Mar 29 2008, 06:15 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Vujacic has been pretty good on the offensive side of the ball for the Lakers this year, but part of me wonders if it's only because it's contract time for him.</div>
http://sportstwo.com/forums/Vujacic-s-Care...ar-t114003.html


<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>Since Vujacic is in the final year of a contract that pays him $1.7 million, Coach Phil Jackson was asked if Vujacic is playing so well because he wants a contract extension this summer.

"Oh, without a doubt," Jackson said.</div>


It's all about the contract for him, IMO.
 
Try to sign Barnes, Pietrus

Offer the VET min to Boki

Buy-out or ask him to leave.... Stro

Offer picks and maybe marcus for a scoring big or a shooter
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (dino33 @ Mar 29 2008, 09:26 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>is Orlando still trying to ship J.J redick?</div>
i hope so
 
first thing on my list would be go golfing with rod thorn, and breakfast at the country club house. than i would get my massage, two asian girls ^^ hahah ok ok enough already...

-first thing to do is call coach frank, and gently tell him that hes done in NJ, but will tell him to use me as a reference for his future job interviews.

-then i would interview coaches and it would be between marc jackson, bill cartwright, and jeff van gundy.

-then in the offseason i would try to move RJ, and work out a deal with the clips to bring in brand. yes elton brand!

-then resign diop, talk to stromile bout optin out, and working out a moderate contract with nenad.

-i dont really wanna move VC but if an offer comes up where i get a younger legit player in return with draft picks id pull it.

-id also shop around marcus for like charlie bell of the bucks.

then go partying in the city and hang out with jay z and lebron and work out what he wants for him to make an easier transition to nj or brooklyn, which ever city we are located at that time.
 
The Nets are stuck with Stro and Hassell unless they combine them with either Williams and/or the lottery pick. I think that is a major constraint. Stro and Hassell will get paid a combined $10 million. If you keep them, you'll probably be forced to play one or both of them regularly.

Marcus has actually been playing pretty well the last few games--much more controlled, within himself. Still, I'd be willing to move him. The problem with doing so is that will leave the Nets with just one PG (since Armstrong is expected to retire), and I can't see them trying to integrate two PGs simultaneously (since they will carry three on their roster next year). As for Swat, I don't know what they'd get for him that would be so much of an upgrade. He is too raw; there is too great a chance that he'll never be more than Stromile.

I'm happy with a core of Devin, Vince, RJ, and Boone. I'm even happy adding Marcus and Diop to that core. I suspect the Nets will resign Krstic and hope that he recovers his form. So, now we have a couple of players that are hopeless on defense, and a couple that are often indifferent. The big issue is what to do with Boki; even though he's a good guy, I'd love to just let him go, but I suspect that they'd just replace him with someone else who can't play defense, but who is even more erratic a shooter.

The Nets right now appear to thrive in an up-tempo game. It is who they are; it appears to give them energy. Frank needs to get over the grind-it-out style and just let them go. I'd draft a shooter that can run the floor and hopefully play some defense. Mayo comes to mind, if he's available. I'd try to punt Hassell if I could.
 
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