Iguodala hypothetical

[MickZagger]

Who would you be willing to part with to get him? I think if we bring him in we definitely need to let go of either Roy (not likely), Batum, or Matthews because the 2/3 spot would be way too cluttered.

 

[VanillaGorilla]

I'd love to get Iggy and lose Roy, but as you said, it's not likely. I don't see why any team would want Roy right now. I would keep Matthews over Batum.

 

[Natebishop3]

The thing is, I think we need a new #1 and I'm not convinced that Iggy could be that guy. He used to have that potential, but it seems like he's shown over the last couple seasons that he's a good player, but not a #1. I suspect if you have problems with Aldridge, you'd also be annoyed with Iggy.

With that said, I'm not against adding him. I just think we should be looking at options for a new #1, because Roy aint it.

 

[craigehlo]

With that said, I'm not against adding him. I just think we should be looking at options for a new #1, because Roy aint it.

I don't think there's any legit #1 option available on the trade market aside from Melo, who will only sign with the Knicks. Iggy is the best of the rest in terms of names mentioned as available in the press.

That being said, I'd add Iggy just to move Roy to the bench. A Matthews/Iguodala combo will defend and attack the rim and give consistent efforts every night.

 

[Mediocre Man]

I don't want to see any changes on the court until we get a new offensive philosophy. A player like Iggy would shrivel up and die in an offense that is built to stand around and wait until Roy is through trying to create for himself. If a new coach, or even Nate had us moving more on offense, then Iggy would be a great addition, and I would trade pretty much anyone to get him.

 

[craigehlo]

I don't want to see any changes on the court until we get a new offensive philosophy. A player like Iggy would shrivel up and die in an offense that is built to stand around and wait until Roy is through trying to create for himself. If a new coach, or even Nate had us moving more on offense, then Iggy would be a great addition, and I would trade pretty much anyone to get him.

An Iggy trade would at least put Roy on the bench and, hopefully, make this team get creative in the starting unit. With the slow pace at which this organization makes any decisions, I'm not hopeful that we will see both a coaching change and a major trade during this season.

 

[Pinwheel1]

Matthews or Batum and plus Pryz would be my hypothetical. (And a pick or young player) If Philly wants to get rid of him, there is a reason. He is good but has deficiencies. But as Roy's game moves to the outside, we need someone attacking the rim. He certainly fits that role.

 

[Natebishop3]

I don't want to see any changes on the court until we get a new offensive philosophy. A player like Iggy would shrivel up and die in an offense that is built to stand around and wait until Roy is through trying to create for himself. If a new coach, or even Nate had us moving more on offense, then Iggy would be a great addition, and I would trade pretty much anyone to get him.

I don't think Nate will be fired anytime soon, unfortunately.

 

[PapaG]

Who would you be willing to part with to get him? I think if we bring him in we definitely need to let go of either Roy (not likely), Batum, or Matthews because the 2/3 spot would be way too cluttered.

Bringing in a career 17 PER player does what in terms of winning? You're whining nonstop about Aldridge having a career-worst 16.7 PER this season, and your big idea is to bring in a 17 PER veteran and have him be a #1 option?

Why not just trade for the entire starting line-up from the 2008-09 76ers? You're already 40% there with Miller and Iggy.

 

[craigehlo]

Bringing in a career 17 PER player does what in terms of winning? You're whining nonstop about Aldridge having a career-worst 16.7 PER this season, and your big idea is to bring in a 17 PER veteran and have him be a #1 option?

If there's no #1 option on the market, you have to go for the best available. That's Iggy right now.

BTW his 16.68 PER this season is really close to Wes Matthews 16.89. He's a total stat stuffer in the box score and defends extremely well. I'll that that.

 

[Mediocre Man]

I don't think Nate will be fired anytime soon, unfortunately.

I don't either. Too many Seattle people associated with the team that think the world of Mr Sonic

 

[Natebishop3]

I don't either. Too many Seattle people associated with the team that think the world of Mr Sonic

Well, and there's always an excuse. Injuries.

 

[MIXUM]

what rumor did we see today to start this gem of a thread?

 

[Natebishop3]

what rumor did we see today to start this gem of a thread?

You're pretty good at using the internet... I'd bet you could find the Iggy rumors.

 

[MIXUM]

heres what i cant tell ya......

chos trading skills are below average... maybe worse then kpees.... so expecting a trade that improves us is like expecting roy to look like he is 22 with good knees. not gonna happen.

 

[Natebishop3]

heres what i cant tell ya......

chos trading skills are below average... maybe worse then kpees.... so expecting a trade that improves us is like expecting roy to look like he is 22 with good knees. not gonna happen.

He's only had a few months to do anything... that's not much time to work. Don't you think you're being a little hard on the guy?

 

[<-=*PdX*=->]

Aren't you all being a little too hard on Roy and the all time best blazer ever Batum?

This board cracks me up.

 

[MickZagger]

Bringing in a career 17 PER player does what in terms of winning? You're whining nonstop about Aldridge having a career-worst 16.7 PER this season, and your big idea is to bring in a 17 PER veteran and have him be a #1 option?

Why not just trade for the entire starting line-up from the 2008-09 76ers? You're already 40% there with Miller and Iggy.

You act like I'm set in stone that I want Iguodala. I'm really just asking the board who we would give up if we wanted to get him.

His 17 PER is only half of his game though, he's also a great defender and brings a different dimension to our team in that he can do just about anything.

Here's a required reading for you:
http://www.nba.com/2009/news/features/john_schuhmann/11/11/iguodala.defense/index.html

Sometimes we forget, but there are two ends of the floor in the game of basketball. And while a player's offensive statistics are important, of equal value are the numbers the other team is putting up while he's on the floor. That's why Andre Iguodala is one of the most underrated players in the league.

 

[Fez Hammersticks]

With Nic and Wes I really think we should look elsewhere to upgrade. SG and SF long-term for this team is already in good hands.

 

[hasoos]

There are many things to adddress with this team, but this is not one of them. Iggy is not a primary scorer carry your team guy. Iggy is a complimentary scorer. Since we do not have a primary scorer now, this move would be useless.

All of the moves that will make the Blazers better will involve one of the following:

1. Obtaining a backup PF, who does all the things a backup PF should do. Rebound and set screens.
2. Pick up a backup PG who doesn't stink themselves out of the league.

 

[Minstrel]

I've always been a big Iguodala fan. If the price were mostly expiring money and draft picks for Iguodala and Brand, I'd do it. Brand is way overpaid, but would upgrade the team's bench. Iguodala doesn't give the team the lead star that they need, but more talent is more talent. It means they could perhaps trade someone like Matthews or Batum, perhaps as part of some package, in the future.

Iguodala actually has really strong Assist Rates, which is intriguing. In the future, Beyond Andre Miller, it would be interesting to see how much of a facilitator role Iguodala could play. He's basically a great all-around player without being dominant at any one thing.

 

[craigehlo]

All of the moves that will make the Blazers better will involve one of the following:

1. Obtaining a backup PF, who does all the things a backup PF should do. Rebound and set screens.
2. Pick up a backup PG who doesn't stink themselves out of the league.

Focusing on obtaining backup players is like putting a band aid on the gaping wound that is the starting lineup. Those were legit needs when Roy as an All-Star. Now with him hobbled, more drastic changes need to happen.

This team needs to get Roy to the bench and fill his position with a player that can score, pass and play with energy. Iggy isn't a bad option IMHO. He's a slightly bigger, more highly paid, version of Matthews in many ways.

 

[Minstrel]

Iggy isn't a bad option IMHO. He's a slightly bigger, more highly paid, version of Matthews in many ways.

Except that he's an excellent passer. Matthews...isn't.

 

[hasoos]

Focusing on obtaining backup players is like putting a band aid on the gaping wound that is the starting lineup. Those were legit needs when Roy as an All-Star. Now with him hobbled, more drastic changes need to happen.

This team needs to get Roy to the bench and fill his position with a player that can score, pass and play with energy. Iggy isn't a bad option IMHO. He's a slightly bigger, more highly paid, version of Matthews in many ways.

You know that just because one problem exists, does not mean the others don't still exist. Secondly, top tier scorers are not readily available, and Portland has nothing to deal for a top tier scorer even if we wanted to. So once you cut through the bullcrap, that brings you back to deals that can be made that will still improve the team. I really doubt anybody on this board could come up with a feasible trade that will net us a top tier scorer, unless it was to Denver who would trade us Carmello just so he could fuck us over instead of them.