Interesting PHOENIX trade RUMOR

[SpanishFly]

From Hank at Olive, interesting trade rumor and I like it. As always this is just a very unsubstantiated rumor! I do like Diaw as as good low post contrast to LMA, Barbosa having an off season - good contract and maybe could be had cheap. Both guys "vets" but still young.Thoughts guys?

"a guy I know who has ties with the Blazers said that we have been in talks with Phoenix and things may be heating up... key players in the deal are Barbosa and Diaw from Pho, and Webs, Blake, Frye and Diogu from Portland."

 

[andalusian]

I can't see us ship Blake out without getting a proper PG back - and as much as I like Barbosa - he is not.

 

[The_Lillard_King]

I can't see us ship Blake out without getting a proper PG back - and as much as I like Barbosa - he is not.

That is what I was thinking . . . unless they are ready to hand Sergio the starting position . . . ouch

 

[SodaPopinski]

Any rumor that begins with "A guy I know ..." should be printed out and used to wipe your ass with.

-Pop

 

[Fez Hammersticks]

I'm calling BS here.

We don't need Barbosa with Rudy here. Diaw is overpaid and overrated. Barbosa is a SG through and through. He has possibly the worst handle I've seen from a 6'3" guard.

 

[MrJayremmie]

No thanks.

 

[WarriorFan]

That is what I was thinking . . . unless they are ready to hand Sergio the starting position . . . ouch

I've only seen 4 or 5 Blazer games this year but it seems to me like a starting backcourt of Roy and Rudy might be able to work well with them sharing the PG duties. The Blazers play a slow enough pace that I'm not sure they need a true PG and either of them seems to be "good enough" distributors. Roy also seems to be quick enough to guard most PGs in the league (with the obvious exceptions of guys like Paul that no one can guard).

I really like Blake and would love to see the Warriors trade for him but I just don't see how he really benefits your team. Am I way off in thinking Roy and Rudy could handle it?

 

[andalusian]

I do not think Roy/Rudy can really do it for extended minutes. A little bit of time as the 2nd ball-handler for bringing the ball up-court, sure. All the game? Not sure.

Maybe in a little time when we know a bit more about Bayless I could see it happen - but I do not think they are ready for this yet.

 

[oldmangrouch]

Very odd. The Barbosa rumor first surfaced *before* we signed Rudy/drafted Bayless. Back then, it made a certain amount of sense as the idea was basically to upgrade from Jack to Barbosa. Now? I just don't see it.

Besides, why would we give up the cap flexibility represented by Frye and Diogu for a 2nd rate, overpaid guy like Diaw?

 

[Sedatedfork]

I am hoping to see a lineup of Blake-Rudy-Roy-LMA-Oden more this season. I like that lineup a lot, especially if Oden starts playing better. I wouldn't be in favor of this trade.

 

[julius]

From Hank at Olive, interesting trade rumor and I like it. As always this is just a very unsubstantiated rumor! I do like Diaw as as good low post contrast to LMA, Barbosa having an off season - good contract and maybe could be had cheap. Both guys "vets" but still young.Thoughts guys?

"a guy I know who has ties with the Blazers said that we have been in talks with Phoenix and things may be heating up... key players in the deal are Barbosa and Diaw from Pho, and Webs, Blake, Frye and Diogu from Portland."

To go on what Soda said, any rumor that starts it's life in Olive, should only be printed on paper used to wipe your tuchas.

Webster, Blake, Frye AND Diogu for Barbosa and Diaw?

No thanks.

 

[crowTrobot]

sounds like some suns fan's wet dream to dump underperforming players with bad long term contracts on us.

 

[RR7]

Eh, if Blake is used in our offense primarily off the ball with Roy, then I would take Barbosa over him in a second. Is Barbosa a true PG? No. But we don't utilize our PG in the "true" sense anyways. When our offense breaks down in the half court, we generally have one guy who can get to the rim to get his own shot, and that's Roy. Blake can usually make it to the FT line for a jumper, maybe, but Barbosa would be another guard on the floor who can get to the rim with some success. His 3 point shot has struggled some this year, but he is a career 40% 3 point shooter. He is a one man fast break in much the way Tony Parker is, which might result in a turnover a game, but will likely generate an easy bucket or two per game as well.

Diaw is overpaid, but is a better backup at PF than Frye is.

The one thing I like about a possible move like this is that it still leaves us with Raef's big expiring contract to make a follow up move if necessary.

Barbosa/Sergio/Bayless
Roy/Rudy
Batum/Outlaw
Aldridge/Diaw
Oden/Przybilla

 

[Mediocre Man]

I can't see us ship Blake out without getting a proper PG back - and as much as I like Barbosa - he is not.

Blake is not a proper PG either. He is a good shooter and that's it. He doesn't penetrate perticularly well, nor does he create a lot of shots for people. He is also a poor defensive playing this season

 

[BatumKaboom]

I like it. I would do it. But wait... how long is Diaw contract? If it is not too long, I would take it.

 

[BIG Q]

I live in Arizona so I get my fill of the sports talk guys here. Yesterday the guys from 620 AM, KTAR kept talking about how loaded Portland was, and of course they wanted everyone on our team. They did acknowledge that the big three were untouchable, but they were angling to send Nash our way. I didn't think anything of it as it was pure fantasy on their parts. They do not really grasp the value that many of our players hold despite being on the bench.

Anyways, no to Diaw. The joke around these parts is how soft he is. He always misses easy lay ins when the whole valley is trying to get him to dunk. Barbosa ia not a PG, know that now. He is 6'5-6'6 and quick. Very streaky shooter but he can get to the rim at will.

I would not touch any of those guys unless they were being flipped to NY to run for Mike D. Since NY is not taking any salary on, run, run fast and far from those two players. They are fools gold.

 

[crowTrobot]

i've never seen barbosa listed taller than 6'3.

 

[BrianFromWA]

The Phoenix trade makes me sick to look at. I'll admit I'm probably irrational on this, but I don't like a single thing about Beep Beep's game. I'd rather have K*be take my wife out to dinner than have Barbosa play PG for my team. And I have to give up Webster for him? Blech.

I keep saying I'd pay more in players to get Nash, but that's probably not going to happen...though it seems as if it's gone from a 1-in-a-million to a 1-in-a-thousand shot.

 

[Fez Hammersticks]

The only player I'd like from their roster is Robin Lopez. He's a young Joel Przybilla.

 

[BIG Q]

i've never seen barbosa listed taller than 6'3.

I am just going off of what they were saying here on the radio. They were talking about how he dribbles upright, which makes it easier to steal the ball from him since he is so much taller than Nash. I hate getting into height discussions since there is the whole with or with out shoes, yada yada bs.

 

[crowTrobot]

I like it. I would do it. But wait... how long is Diaw contract? If it is not too long, I would take it.

with player options both diaw and barbosa run through 2011/2012 at a combined 16-17 mil. it would be insane for us to blow our FA wad on role players, especially with barbosa shooting like crap this year. given his bargain contract it would be insane for us to dump webster without at least seeing where he's at this year. it's just a stupid deal for the blazers.

 

[1 Eye Jack]

I want Nash......not gonna happen I know. Something I've heard mentioned while watching Phoenix is he wasn't happy with the new style Porter wants the team to play. Unfortunately Porter and Nate have the same type of philosphy, take care of the ball and play defense. I get giddy thinking of Nash running our team for a couple of years. Imagine how much easier it would be on our young guys. No way it happens just dreaming......

 

[MAS RipCity]

Actually a good deal. If Nate is willing to run more, Barbosa is great in an uptempo offense and would be able to play more off the ball while Roy can handle the ball.
I love Diaw's versatility off the bench playing along side Outlaw and Rudy. We would be smaller, but more more quicker and athletic.
Again, these deals only make sense if Nate is committed to run.

 

[Uther TheGardener]

caron butler? that is also a rumor floating around.

 

[Blazed]

I don't think there will be any deals until the trade deadline, and the most likely trade will be Raef for Capt'n Kirk

 

[RR7]

caron butler? that is also a rumor floating around.

By floating around do you mean mentioned on these boards by someone as a deal they would like to have happen?

 

[Crimson the Cat]

I like this move assuming it's not the only move.

Barbosa's quickness, ability to play off-the-ball, and get to the hoop might be the best available option out there. Barbosa would be a fantastic backcourt-mate for Roy. I'm concerned about him bringing the ball up the court though when pressure comes. But then, maybe this about giving Bayless or Sergio the reigns as a starter and bringing Barbosa off the bench. Either way I like this portion of the deal.

Moving Webster and Frye for Diaw is questionable for me. I still believe in Frye and I'm hesitant to even deal him for Diaw straight up. Then you add in Webster? We would need to get something else back to make this even palatable. I like Diaw though. I think he'd be perfect for off the bench as well. I would want their 1st Round Pick as well.

Overall this would be a great move. We stay young, yet add experience. We get faster, get more versatility, add another Frenchman, open up more playing time for Rudy, and get rid of the cap holds, all without worsening the team.

 

[MrJayremmie]

I live in Arizona so I get my fill of the sports talk guys here. Yesterday the guys from 620 AM, KTAR kept talking about how loaded Portland was, and of course they wanted everyone on our team. They did acknowledge that the big three were untouchable, but they were angling to send Nash our way. I didn't think anything of it as it was pure fantasy on their parts. They do not really grasp the value that many of our players hold despite being on the bench.

Anyways, no to Diaw. The joke around these parts is how soft he is. He always misses easy lay ins when the whole valley is trying to get him to dunk. Barbosa ia not a PG, know that now. He is 6'5-6'6 and quick. Very streaky shooter but he can get to the rim at will.

I would not touch any of those guys unless they were being flipped to NY to run for Mike D. Since NY is not taking any salary on, run, run fast and far from those two players. They are fools gold.

I would trade for Nash, but it seems what they would want from us (probably ppl like Bayless, Sergio, Rudy, Batum) is kinda more than i'd want to give up right now.

If we could give them young talent, picks, and a big expiring for Nash and a contract, along with helping us consolidate.. i'd do it for sure.

But i'm not really a fan of Barbosa because he isn't a true PG, and if we are goin' that way we have a guy like Bayless on our bench that we don't have to trade for, and has a cheap contract. And I simply don't like Diaw.

This, of course, is just one out of many fans opinion.

 

[Crimson the Cat]

This deal makes even more sense if Portland is making a move for Gerald Wallace or another high-profile SF. We could send LaFrentz and Outlaw possibly with the rights to Kopenen or something along those lines.

Barbosa, Roy, Wallace, Aldridge, and Oden with a bench of Sergio, Fernandez, Batum, Diaw, and Przybilla is very balanced.

 

[Minstrel]

I'd trade for Stoudemire, if they are worried about being able to re-sign him (assuming Stoudemire would be willing to re-sign with Portland). Beyond that, Phoenix has no one I want Portland to trade for.

No Nash, and definitely not Barbosa/Diaw.