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SHOULD BE MISAPPROPRIATING BROS. MOMENTARY LAPSE SINCE I WAS SO TRIGGERED.

Newest commercial uses "Shut em Down", which was a politically charged rap song in the early 90s.



Nike Commercial:




Chuck D of Public Enemy explained to Melody Maker in 1991: "'Shut 'Em Down' is about major corporations like Nike taking profits from the black community, but not giving anything back, never opening businesses in black areas. And it's saying that the best way to boycott a business is to start your own."

Who count the money in the neighborhood
But we spending money to no end, looking for a friend
In a war to the core, ripping up the poor in the stores
Until they get a brother kicking down doors
Then I figure I can get bigger
Look 'em dead in the eye and they wince, defense is pressurized
They don't really want it to be another racial attack
In disguise so give some money back
I like Nike but wait a minute
The neighborhood supports, so put some money in it
All corporations owe, they gotta give up the dough
To my town or else we gotta shut 'em down
 
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Appropriation?? This thread is stupid.

They PAID PE for that...
 
It's really more of a case of someone not understanding a song, like playing Green Day's "Good Riddance" at a graduation, or the Police's "every step you take" at a wedding.
 
Appropriation?? This thread is stupid.

They PAID PE for that...

More likely they paid the record label. Who knows how much PE actually got. The song actually bashes Nike for doing what this marketing campaign is doing.

Plus its the principle of the matter, the song was a political statement about consumerism and exploiting the poor communities, yet they are marketing $200 sneakers to kids that can't afford them.
 
There is no God.
Fucking jealous as usual.

This thread is interesting to me because this song is my favorite PE song and the Nike line is my favorite line in it.

Would be like Arizona using By the Time I get to Arizona in a tourism ad.
 
Re: Flavor Flav

http://variety.com/2017/music/news/flavor-flav-chuck-d-public-enemy-royalties-lawsuit-1202543573/

Flavor Flav needs money. So says a lawsuit filed in federal court Wednesday, in which Flav accuses Public Enemy co-founder Chuck D and two business managers of cheating him out of royalties and merchandising revenue.

Flav — real name, William Drayton — contends that his Public Enemy royalties have dwindled to almost nothing in recent years. In the last few months, he and his representatives have attempted to get a full accounting of the money owed to him, but have been thwarted.

Flavor Flav and Chuck D were the two core members of the group. Chuck D was seen as the serious musical talent while Flav played the goofy hype man. The suit hints at years of pent-up hard feelings over this perception of their relative importance. Flav contends that there have been many attempts “to minimize his role in the Public Enemy business” over the years, while managers continued to exploit “his fame and persona to market the brand.”
 
To me, this is Public Enemy eventually selling out. Which is a shame, I was a huge fan of them.
 
There is no God.

You're trippin. And you must have no clue about why the Flava Flav Character exists.

He is supposed to be the epitome of what white America thinks about Black people generally. He played is part to a T and we love him for it.

911 is still a fuckin' joke.

 
More likely they paid the record label. Who knows how much PE actually got. The song actually bashes Nike for doing what this marketing campaign is doing.

Plus its the principle of the matter, the song was a political statement about consumerism and exploiting the poor communities, yet they are marketing $200 sneakers to kids that can't afford them.
I can't afford em. Lebron wouldn't buy em anyway if he's as cheap as he says.
 
You're trippin. And you must have no clue about why the Flava Flav Character exists.

He is supposed to be the epitome of what white America thinks about Black people generally. He played is part to a T and we love him for it.

911 is still a fuckin' joke.


I was at a UNLV game that he played drums with the band. One of the greatest things I've ever seen.
 
To me, this is Public Enemy eventually selling out. Which is a shame, I was a huge fan of them.

This is bullshit. Straight garbage take. The song fits the commercial. The commercial is FUCKING AWESOME and you call them sellouts?

Garbage.
 
I can just see the meeting at Wieden and Kennedy, some white hipsters marketing fucks talking about what a good, edgy but somewhat obscure rap song that will sound "cool" to market to low income black neighborhoods. Then they go get some soul food at the Screen Door.
 
This is bullshit. Straight garbage take. The song fits the commercial. The commercial is FUCKING AWESOME and you call them sellouts?

Garbage.

Like I said, the original song was about corporations exploiting poor black communities. Meanwhile, this song is marketing overpriced shoes to said community.
 
This is bullshit. Straight garbage take. The song fits the commercial. The commercial is FUCKING AWESOME and you call them sellouts?

Garbage.
Wait, what has Nike changed since the song was written? Honestly curious because I literally don't know if they've done anything.
 
Chuck D of Public Enemy explained to Melody Maker in 1991: "'Shut 'Em Down' is about major corporations like Nike taking profits from the black community, but not giving anything back, never opening businesses in black areas. And it's saying that the best way to boycott a business is to start your own."

This should have been used by Big Baller Brand, fuck Nike.
 
Chuck D of Public Enemy explained to Melody Maker in 1991: "'Shut 'Em Down' is about major corporations like Nike taking profits from the black community, but not giving anything back, never opening businesses in black areas. And it's saying that the best way to boycott a business is to start your own."

This should have been used by Big Baller Brand, fuck Nike.

It's like calling Ice Cube a sellout because he said "Fuck Hollywood". No He made some classic movies.
 
You're trippin. And you must have no clue about why the Flava Flav Character exists.

He is supposed to be the epitome of what white America thinks about Black people generally. He played is part to a T and we love him for it.
Sure...

I'd be happy to know that Professor Griff was just playing a caricature...
 
It's like calling Ice Cube a sellout because he said "Fuck Hollywood". No He made some classic movies.
Those things are not inconsistent. He just sold out well. He also made some steaming piles of shit.
 

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