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The thing is.... there are nice neighborhoods in Beaverton.... and there are shitty neighborhoods in Beaverton. Technically he linked a house in Aloha, and not in a particularly nice part of Aloha. I'm not familiar with San Diego at all, but he keeps linking houses that aren't in very nice neighborhoods, which was part of his stipulation. Decent house in a nice neighborhood in Portland. So far he has yet to find one.

I actually knew that. When we moved to Portland we rented a house in Aloha until we found a house we bought (in the Bethany area) - so the La Mesa reference I gave you is (imho) appropriate.

Housing prices in San Diego are pretty absurd. I would not say that they are 2 times higher, but probably 60-70% higher for comparable homes / areas.

To my mind, Carlsbad is what I would think of as the Beaverton of San Diego - Suburban higher middle-class kind of city. Median home price in Carlsbad is 850K vs 400K for Beaverton, for example. This is tilted higher however because Carlsbad is on the beach, so there are some very expensive areas there. I still think that the 60-70% higher estimate is the correct one.
 
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Whats the state income tax in Oregon?

Also, you have to drive FAR as fuck to get a decent home for $300k in a safe neighborhood in San Diego. Portland, its not as bad.
What's the State sales tax in Oregon? I'm pretty sure it's less than in San Diego.
 
The thing is.... there are nice neighborhoods in Beaverton.... and there are shitty neighborhoods in Beaverton. Technically he linked a house in Aloha, and not in a particularly nice part of Aloha. I'm not familiar with San Diego at all, but he keeps linking houses that aren't in very nice neighborhoods, which was part of his stipulation. Decent house in a nice neighborhood in Portland. So far he has yet to find one.
Hey, that's funny, I use to live in Aloha and now I live in a nicer part of Lake Oswego. Even from where you're at you can almost see the smile on my face. Trump's been good for me, a total disaster for the country but good for me.

So, why am I so adamantly against Trump? Simple, I love my country and I care about people. Those are pretty much the only requirements for hating that fuck.
 
I thought you said decent? I guess our definition of decent might differ.

That's also not a neighborhood that I would want to raise a family, that's for sure. It's right next to the Springwater trail.

Anything I can find under $300k in Portland is either tiny, a condo, or a dump.

Yeah, I guess it is hard to live on $75,000 in Portland.
 
I lived for about 16 years in Portland and I mostly loved it (I do hate the weather tho, with a passion). I now live in North San Diego county - and I love it too. I honestly can say that there are advantages and disadvantages to both places, but calling SoCal broken down, dry, dirty crowded and gross is not the way I would go. Well, dry is mostly true. It is certainly not any dirtier than Portland, and the way traffic is at Portland nowadays is worse (thus more crowded, imho) than San Diego from my experience. Gross is a personal judgement call, I guess - but having been stupid enough to walk around Burnside at night last month - I would argue that there are gross parts of Portland, for sure. As for drivers in SoCal vs. Portland - People are a lot more accommodating on the roads in Portland, I think. Better drivers tho? I am not certain of that.

FWIW - the entire "higher expectations" nonsense is just that. El doing El trolling things.

While I know that Portland would be somewhat cheaper to live in, for us, the much better weather is well worth it - so I personally would not want to go back to live in Portland. If it was NorCal vs. Portland however, I would have a much harder time to choose (fwiw - there were some lovely things about living in NorCal as well).

Ha! No place it the best place year around.

So Cal and especial near San Diego, is wonderful and then especially near the Sea, in the winter. However, I have my boat
just North of Portland in the Columbia river right now, because it is a wonderful place to be. In the spring, I think I will find Sitka AK a wonderful place, so that is where I will be.

Duncan Hunter on the other hand, likable fellow perhaps is dumber than a box of rocks. Geez! How can the fool plead innocent and then complain about the cost of living in San Diego? Bye Bye Hunter!
 
Yeah, I guess it is hard to live on $75,000 in Portland.

I wouldn't say it's hard to live in Portland on $75k but you probably aren't going to be able to own a home, at least not a nice one. You would be able to afford a starter home if you drove outside of that metro area but even Woodburn's median home price (just over the Washington/Marion County line) is over $250k. I would consider that a big mortgage for a family making $75k.

Even places that are kind of part of PDX but are way out there (like Corbett and Hood River) have median home prices around $450 - $500k.
 
Duncan Hunter on the other hand, likable fellow perhaps is dumber than a box of rocks. Geez! How can the fool plead innocent and then complain about the cost of living in San Diego? Bye Bye Hunter!

It's even worse, he's blaming his wife.
 
Yeah, I guess it is hard to live on $75,000 in Portland.

If it was a combined household income.... it would be hard.

Just to give you some perspective, a family of 4 with a household income of $75k is considered low income by the Energy Trust of Oregon.
 
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