JA Adande on Portlands medical staff

[retroblazers]

And it's possible he needs to be surrounded by a different medical and training staff. Oden's knee troubles are the latest in a Portland line that includes Zach Randolph, Darius Miles, Joel Przybilla and Brandon Roy, the franchise player who limped through the playoffs and currently is on the shelf for at least a week. I've had NBA people from inside and outside the organization cast wary eyes on the Trail Blazers' medical ways.

http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/columns/story?columnist=adande_ja&page=Oden-101118

there has to be something to it

 

[EL PRESIDENTE]

If I were paul allen I would blow up the training facility and build a new one with new equipment and everything.

 

[barfo]

That explains a lot if JA Adande is on Portland's medical staff. Goddamn Lakers.

barfo

 

[Darkwebs]

Unfortunately, it appears (at least from the press conference) that our medical/training staffs' jobs will be safe. It looks like they'll be around for a while. I hope Paul Allen and Larry Miller know what they're doing.

 

[craigehlo]

Even if Jay Jensen isn't responsible in some small way for the knee injuries, he certainly isn't helping much. He needs to hit the bricks.

 

[retroblazers]

change for change sake might just be the best thing for all parties involved.

 

[illmatic99]

Fuck Adande.

 

[Minstrel]

change for change sake might just be the best thing for all parties involved.

I kind of doubt Jensen and team would agree with it being the best thing for all parties.

 

[handiman]

Even if Jay Jensen isn't responsible in some small way for the knee injuries, he certainly isn't helping much.

Exactly what I've been saying for a while. Whether or not they know what they're doing, they've proven extremely ineffective at their job. That's all that really matters, even if it's just bad luck.

 

[Nikolokolus]

Sports writers are usually barely qualified to critique athletes, critiquing doctors seems like pretty tenuous stuff.

 

[Ed O]

Exactly what I've been saying for a while. Whether or not they know what they're doing, they've proven extremely ineffective at their job. That's all that really matters, even if it's just bad luck.

I don't know diddly squat about medicine, but I also don't know diddly squat about a lot of things, and I know that if the people in charge of something are in charge of something that consistently fails, sometimes you need to change the people in charge of that thing.

I'm not calling for the medical staff's head, because I'm ignorant of too much that goes into that kind of decision, but I think it's hard to argue that they've earned continued employment with the Blazers.

Ed O.

 

[Draco]

Unfortunately, it appears (at least from the press conference) that our medical/training staffs' jobs will be safe. It looks like they'll be around for a while. I hope Paul Allen and Larry Miller know what they're doing.

I'm not so sure, they might have been taking the high road before the firings start.

 

[Natebishop3]

I really don't understand the undying love for the medical staff. These guys have been here too long. It's time to breath some new and fresh air into the franchise from a medical point of view.

 

[maybeso]

I really don't understand the undying love for the medical staff. These guys have been here too long. It's time to breath some new and fresh air into the franchise from a medical point of view.

Pretty hard to judge the performance of our staff when we don't know how it compares with other staffs. Does anyone KNOW how many knee injuries are suffered by other teams compared to ours? Is our percentage of problems higher than other teams percentage?

I'm neither for or against our staff. I'm just a simple statistician who wants to see some more numbers and not emotional outbursts from the ignorant. (I'm ignorant too.)

Basketball is really tough on knees. Are we getting statistically more knee problems than our share?

maybeso

 

[handiman]

Pretty hard to judge the performance of our staff when we don't know how it compares with other staffs. Does anyone KNOW how many knee injuries are suffered by other teams compared to ours? Is our percentage of problems higher than other teams percentage?

I guarantee you that a third of the roster lost to season-ending knee injuries is unusual.

I sort of hope the staff is released -- just to see if they get picked up elsewhere. I'm curious what their value really is around the league...

My gut feeling, though, is that Nate is more to blame for causing problems than the training staff is for not fixing them. There was the mention recently of him running too intense of practices, and I've never liked his rigid emphasis on the pre-season conditioning test and everyone reportedly coming into the season in "the best shape of his life." You can't be up all the time, and if you don't understand that, you stubbornly get them up too early and they fall apart when it counts. There's little the trainers can do in that case.

 

[BGrantFan]

I hope Paul Allen and Larry Miller know what they're doing.

I gave up on this idea years ago for Allen, and after the email to Memphis for Miller.

 

[EGame]

From the Blazers staff point of view: Don't fix what isn't broken.

owait.

 

[maxiep]

Unfortunately, it appears (at least from the press conference) that our medical/training staffs' jobs will be safe. It looks like they'll be around for a while. I hope Paul Allen and Larry Miller know what they're doing.

Nah, that was a classic Washington, DC tactic. "I give [insert name here] my full support". Two weeks later they resign.

Did you hear Cho's inflection? He was as wooden as Joel in those Ford pickup commercials. He didn't buy what he was saying. It was a script.

 

[maxiep]

If I were an opposing team that was interested in Oden, I'd start a dialogue with Conley's dad poisoning the well about the Blazers' medical staff. I'm old enough to remember how Walton's anger toward Dr. Cook/Ron Culp forced us to trade him. It would be pretty easy to make a case that GO's gotten bad medical advice and it's cost him tens of millions of dollars.

 

[maxiep]

I guarantee you that a third of the roster lost to season-ending knee injuries is unusual.

I sort of hope the staff is released -- just to see if they get picked up elsewhere. I'm curious what their value really is around the league...

My gut feeling, though, is that Nate is more to blame for causing problems than the training staff is for not fixing them. There was the mention recently of him running too intense of practices, and I've never liked his rigid emphasis on the pre-season conditioning test and everyone reportedly coming into the season in "the best shape of his life." You can't be up all the time, and if you don't understand that, you stubbornly get them up too early and they fall apart when it counts. There's little the trainers can do in that case.

Dr. Jack had a mile run conditioning test on the first day of camp. Pat Riley ran some of the hardest practices around; Brian Grant lost 20 lbs of fat I didn't even know he had when he was with the Heat. It's possible for players to be pushed in practice and to stay healthy.

 

[handiman]

Dr. Jack had a mile run conditioning test on the first day of camp. Pat Riley ran some of the hardest practices around; Brian Grant lost 20 lbs of fat I didn't even know he had when he was with the Heat. It's possible for players to be pushed in practice and to stay healthy.

True, but there's different ways of pushing them, different expectations of the outcome of those tests, and different ways of enforcing and motivating for the desired outcome. Coaching is a very subtle art, despite the perception by many that it's just a lot of yelling.

 

[Blaze01]

How many years of consistent player injuries before you do fire the training staff?

at some point you have to do something...

This team may be at that point...