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Is he being overpaid?

what does that mean about Batums contract?
 
Wow... he's a good player but that seems like a lot for Moochie.
 
The Jazz are nuts to offer this guy that much money. Betting against themselves.
 
last summer I was unsure if batum was worthy of the money he got . this makes me think that olshey is doing a pretty good job of managing the purse strings. Utah, well maybe they should have let the market set his value before jumping in with this kind of money.
 
Batums contract was neither above nor below market value. I said this at the time. Guys like Afflalo, Gallinari, Nic all fall into the same general category. Hayward in in that same category. 50 might be stretching it a bit, but not completely ridiculous.
 
Agree with Nate that it seems steep for Hayward. But he is a big part of the Jazz future and they are locking him up for 4 yrs. I think it was good move by the Jazz.
 
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yuyuza1 said:
Larry Sanders was had for such a bargain at 4/44
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Steph Curry also signed for 4/44. :MARIS61:

Yes, the Gordon Hayward contract is horrendous. Doesn't make Batum's any better though, it just make the Blazers less moronic than the Jazz.
 
Curry only signed for 4/44!?!
 
julius said:
Curry only signed for 4/44!?!
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Signed last offseason when his ankle concerns were at an all-time high. He would have been an RFA this offseason, probably looking at a max deal.

He is the 4th highest paid Warrior this coming season, making 9.9 mil for 2013-14.
 
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lawai'a said:
last summer I was unsure if batum was worthy of the money he got . this makes me think that olshey is doing a pretty good job of managing the purse strings. Utah, well maybe they should have let the market set his value before jumping in with this kind of money.
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Welcome to the board. :cheers:
 
Run BJM said:
Signed last offseason when his ankle concerns were at an all-time high. He would have been an RFA this offseason, probably looking at a max deal.

He is the 4th highest paid Warrior this coming season, making 9.9 mil for 2013-14.
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Injury issues aside (granted, that could bite them in the ass), that's an outright steal.
 
Hayward's going to be a star. So yes, the contract is justified.
 
julius said:
Injury issues aside (granted, that could bite them in the ass), that's an outright steal.
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Hells yeah it is. ESPN just ranked him the #6 player in the entire NBA. lol
 
HCP said:
What is it with you and white basketball players?


Sent from my baller ass iPhone 5 FAMS!
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What are you talking about? I like just as many black players as white. What do you have against white guys? Look at the numbers he put up last year as a 22 year old.
 
HCP said:
What is it with you and white basketball players?


Sent from my baller ass iPhone 5 FAMS!
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MickZagger said:
What are you talking about? I like just as many black players as white. What do you have against white guys? Look at the numbers he put up last year as a 22 year old.
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MickZagger said:
What are you talking about? I like just as many black players as white. What do you have against white guys? Look at the numbers he put up last year as a 22 year old.
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Those numbers are solid, but they're not 'star' numbers.
 
If he'd take it (moot, he's not allowed to) I'd offer him a 4/50M extension to his contract right now. He's not going to get any cheaper.
 
Given the market, I'd be very surprised if Dame doesn't get close to the max.
 
The only way white people are supposed to make this type of money is when they own a Fortune 500 company
 
Here's one of the things I like about what Neal Olshey did this off season. He absolutely stole Mo Williams and Dorell Wright. I know Hayward is 5 years younger, but Olshey signed Wright for 2 years at $3 million per year. I know Utah's offer to Hayward is based on potential, but it's only 4 years and if he does break out, he will be free to go elsewhere just as he is entering his prime.

If you look at their advanced stats, they are VERY close. Hayward has a slightly higher PER, but Wright has a slightly higher WS/48. Advanced shooting stats are close (even though it as a down year for Wright), but Wright is a better defender and much better rebounder.

Right now, I'd much rather have Wright at $3 million/year than Hayward at $12.5 million per year. And, since Wright will only be 29 when his contract expires, it's not like he's going to decline rapidly and be over the hill by then. Hayward may very well put up much better raw numbers the next two seasons, but it will be because he's the best player on a really crappy team. Wright will be a back-up on a winning team, but will probably continue to have comparable advanced stats to Hayward.

And, if Batum is injured or traded, Wright can easily step into the starting role where he will be an even bigger bargain.

BNM
 
Boob-No-More said:
Here's one of the things I like about what Neal Olshey did this off season. He absolutely stole Mo Williams and Dorell Wright. I know Hayward is 5 years younger, but Olshey signed Wright for 2 years at $3 million per year. I know Utah's offer to Hayward is based on potential, but it's only 4 years and if he does break out, he will be free to go elsewhere just as he is entering his prime.

If you look at their advanced stats, they are VERY close. Hayward has a slightly higher PER, but Wright has a slightly higher WS/48. Advanced shooting stats are close (even though it as a down year for Wright), but Wright is a better defender and much better rebounder.

Right now, I'd much rather have Wright at $3 million/year than Hayward at $12.5 million per year. And, since Wright will only be 29 when his contract expires, it's not like he's going to decline rapidly and be over the hill by then. Hayward may very well put up much better raw numbers the next two seasons, but it will be because he's the best player on a really crappy team. Wright will be a back-up on a winning team, but will probably continue to have comparable advanced stats to Hayward.

And, if Batum is injured or traded, Wright can easily step into the starting role where he will be an even bigger bargain.
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That's what I always said about Pritchard. Instead of waiting for years for the cake to bake, we could get cheap old guys like Juwan Howard who were already baked. And cheaper than those crispy young know-nothings.
 
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