Jim Bunning Cock Blocking Your Unemployment Extension

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The Senate tied itself in knots Monday as it tried to get around a single lawmaker's objection to a spending bill, a showdown that has become emblematic of capital's partisan gridlock.

Sen. Jim Bunning (R., Ky.) again blocked a $10 billion bill that would have extended unemployment benefits and other programs after halting its progress last week. And on Monday, the impact of his blockade started biting, with the expiration of benefits to 100,000 people and the suspension of 41 transportation projects across the country.

Mr. Bunning is holding things up by objecting to a "unanimous consent" request to advance the bill quickly, a routine maneuver for moving legislation forward that requires all senators to go along.

As the $10 billion measure foundered, Senate leaders began debating another, more than $145 billion bill that would achieve some of the same ends, including prolonging unemployment insurance until year's end. A vote on that bill is expected by Friday, and lawmakers hope to make it retroactive so that jobless workers would still get their benefits, albeit delayed.

Even so, those who lost benefits might have to reapply, resulting in delays from three weeks to two months, according to Andrew Stettner, deputy director of the National Employment Law Project, a left-leaning advocacy and research group.

Democrats used Mr. Bunning's move to highlight what they said was a pattern of Republicans gumming up the works on even the most popular measures.

Many Republican leaders, cognizant of the political peril surrounding Mr. Bunning's action, quietly distanced themselves. But others, including Arizona's Jon Kyl, the Senate's second-ranking Republican, supported Mr. Bunning's right to raise the cost issue. "Every time we pass one of these bills, we are adding to the deficit, and we are not creating jobs," Mr. Kyl said. "And it's a legitimate point for Republicans to make."

The standoff has brought renewed attention to the Senate's arcane procedures, which give enormous power to individual senators and have prompted many people, including House members, to call the Senate dysfunctional.

"It might work under the Senate rules that they can do that, but it certainly doesn't work for American families," said Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid (D., Nev.). "I hope Republicans will reconsider and think about their constituents standing in the unemployment line as we speak."

Mr. Bunning says he favors the unemployment-benefits extension but wants it to be paid for. The current bill would add to the deficit. "If we can't find $10 billion to pay for something we all support, we will never pay for anything on the floor of this U.S. Senate," Mr. Bunning said.

According to the Department of Labor, the expiration of unemployment benefits caused 100,000 people to lose their benefits immediately and about 400,000 people within one to two weeks. About 500,000 jobless people would lose their health-insurance subsidies under the Cobra program over the course of a month.

The bill blocked by Mr. Bunning also would have halted steep cuts in payments to doctors who treat Medicare patients. The logjam leaves doctors with a 21% reduction in those payments. The Centers for Medicare and Medicaid Services has asked health-care providers to hold their claims for 10 days, in hopes that the Senate will rescind the payment cuts by then.

The bill would have extended the Highway Trust Fund, whose expiration caused the U.S. Department of Transportation Monday to furlough nearly 2,000 employees without pay. The American Association of State Highway and Transportation Officials said states are losing more than $153 million a day in federal reimbursements.

Democrats hope to take care of many of these problems by passing the larger bill at the end of the week. This "extender" bill, which the Senate took up Monday, not only would extend unemployment benefits, the Cobra health program and Medicare doctors' payments, but would also prolong expiring tax breaks such as the research-and-development tax credit. It would shore up pensions and provide $25 billion to help states make Medicaid payments.

For now, Democrats appeared to relish the fight, because it plays into a broader narrative the party has constructed that paints the GOP as the main cause of Washington's gridlock.

"Because of the games of Washington, hundreds of thousands of people are without the benefits they need as they continue to look for work," said White House spokesman Robert Gibbs.

Mr. Bunning, 78 years old, is known on Capitol Hill as a gruff, sometimes irascible figure. A Hall of Fame pitcher, Mr. Bunning has a chilly relationship with Republican leaders over the perception they sought to prevent him from seeking re-election this year. He announced his planned retirement from the Senate several months ago.

He was the sole senator to vote against President George W. Bush's appointment of Ben Bernanke in 2006. He accused Henry Paulson of acting like the "minister of finance in China" for taking over Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac.

Lawmakers from both parties are mindful of the government shutdown in 1995, which was part of a showdown between then-President Bill Clinton and then-House Speaker Newt Gingrich (R., Ga.). The public largely blamed Mr. Gingrich and the Republicans, and the episode marked the beginning of a resurgence in Mr. Clinton's popularity.

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748704358004575095970707513064.html?mod=googlenews_wsj
 
Is he doing the right thing or not?
 
Why didn't they figure this into the first Pork-u-lous bill?
 
The article barely touches upon his reason for blocking it. It's only $10B, and all he wants is for them to pay for it without adding $10B to the debt.

So, yeah, I think he's doing the right thing.
 
God was missing for six days. On the seventh day, Michael, the archangel, found him - resting. He inquired, "Where have you been?" God smiled deeply and proudly pointed downwards through the clouds. "Look, Michael. Look what I've made."

Archangel Michael looked puzzled, and said, "What is it?" "It's a planet" replied God, and I've put life on it. I'm going to call it Earth and it's going to be a place to test Balance." "Balance?" inquired Michael, "I'm confused." God explained, pointing to different parts of Earth. "For example, he said, northern Europe will be a place of great opportunity and wealth, while southern Europe is going to be poor. Over here I've placed a continent of white people, and over there is a continent of black people. Balance in all things."

God continued pointing to different countries. "This one will be extremely hot, while this one will be very cold and covered in ice."

The Archangel , impressed by God's work, then pointed to a land area and asked, "What's that one?" "That's Maryland , the most glorious place on earth. There are beautiful mountains, ocean, rivers and streams, lakes, forests, hills, and plains. The people from Maryland are going to be handsome, modest, intelligent, and humorous, and they are going to travel the world. They will be extremely sociable, hardworking, high achieving, carriers of peace, and producers of good things."

Michael gasped in wonder and admiration, but then asked, "But what about balance, God?

You said there would be balance...

God smiled, "Right next to Maryland is Washington , DC . Wait till you see the idiots I put there."
 
God was missing for six days. On the seventh day, Michael, the archangel, found him - resting. He inquired, "Where have you been?" God smiled deeply and proudly pointed downwards through the clouds. "Look, Michael. Look what I've made."

Archangel Michael looked puzzled, and said, "What is it?" "It's a planet" replied God, and I've put life on it. I'm going to call it Earth and it's going to be a place to test Balance." "Balance?" inquired Michael, "I'm confused." God explained, pointing to different parts of Earth. "For example, he said, northern Europe will be a place of great opportunity and wealth, while southern Europe is going to be poor. Over here I've placed a continent of white people, and over there is a continent of black people. Balance in all things."

God continued pointing to different countries. "This one will be extremely hot, while this one will be very cold and covered in ice."

The Archangel , impressed by God's work, then pointed to a land area and asked, "What's that one?" "That's Maryland , the most glorious place on earth. There are beautiful mountains, ocean, rivers and streams, lakes, forests, hills, and plains. The people from Maryland are going to be handsome, modest, intelligent, and humorous, and they are going to travel the world. They will be extremely sociable, hardworking, high achieving, carriers of peace, and producers of good things."

Michael gasped in wonder and admiration, but then asked, "But what about balance, God?

You said there would be balance...

God smiled, "Right next to Maryland is Washington , DC . Wait till you see the idiots I put there."

That's pretty good.
 
The article barely touches upon his reason for blocking it. It's only $10B, and all he wants is for them to pay for it without adding $10B to the debt.

So, yeah, I think he's doing the right thing.

How do you feel about him profiting from his charity? His billing rate is $180,000 an hour that he charges his own charity.
 
How do you feel about him profiting from his charity? His billing rate is $180,000 an hour that he charges his own charity.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/michael-kieschnick/republicans-use-jim-bunni_b_481361.html

I'd also wonder how Denny feels about him voting for Bush's unpaid for tax cuts for the wealthy that cost us umpteen times more... or about how he reportedly flipped the bird to an ABC news crew today that dared to ask him about his recent actions?

Dude's high horse seems strictly politics... probably just taking his last partisan shots across the bow before deciding not to make another run and becoming a lobbyist

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I like the spin
"It might work under the Senate rules that they can do that, but it certainly doesn't work for American families," said Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid (D., Nev.).

Haha. Who pays (at SOME point) for those benefits?

Ed O.
 
I like the spin


Haha. Who pays (at SOME point) for those benefits?

Ed O.

We can bill the State of Kentucky for it. And when Bunning complains we can give him the bird and say "Tough Shit" repeatedly.
 
Fuck that stupid son of a bitch.....................get some fucking jobs going so we don't have to run out of unemployment. Republican bastard.:ohno:

Feel better now.:chestbump:
 
I understand his point about this just becoming more never to be paid deficit money and cutting Medicare... thus leaving many people without needed care since fewer and fewer providers take the pennies on the dollar government money... but overall he should not have blocked this bill. To be sure, it's a stinker for many, but in the overall scheme of things it needed to be passed.
 
I like the spin


Haha. Who pays (at SOME point) for those benefits?

Ed O.

I will , I will, just get me some work. :ohno: Maybe some of those countries that we have bailed out over the years would like to help me out? How about some illegal immigrants with a job?

Oh shit, I sounded like a republican..........I'm so fucking confused.:ohno:
 
The article barely touches upon his reason for blocking it. It's only $10B, and all he wants is for them to pay for it without adding $10B to the debt.

So, yeah, I think he's doing the right thing.

Actually he wants pork, a contract in fact.
 
Actually, congress is about to pass a $100B bill the covers all this. The $10B one was a temporary one. There is zero chance people will get less benefits because of Bunning's move. The guy is a lame duck and has nothing to lose (votes, something used against him in next election) by doing what he thinks is right.
 
Bunning is an evil, sadistic P.O.S. and Karma will bring him down hard. :devilwink:
 
I know a bunch of people abusing the unemplyment benefits....wonder how prevalent this is.
 
I know a bunch of people abusing the unemplyment benefits....wonder how prevalent this is.

You mean they are working full time and claiming benefits? Wouldn't want to get caught doing that. You can make 1/3 of your benefit and not affect the amount. More than that and it is $ for $ benefit loss. Lots of people try to get some part time or side work to help supplement their income.:dunno:
 
You mean they are working full time and claiming benefits? Wouldn't want to get caught doing that. You can make 1/3 of your benefit and not affect the amount. More than that and it is $ for $ benefit loss. Lots of people try to get some part time or side work to help supplement their income.:dunno:

The whole system is truly messed up. If you're unemployed, you should be able to collect your full insurance for a significant period of time, even if you find a job during that period that pays you any amount. The idea is to help people get on and stay on their feet, not put them on a tight rope and give them a flimsy net in case they fall. If you can get benefits for 6 months while working for 4, you can build up a nice nest egg to help yourself through toughish times or maybe start a small business or something. It will cost us less in the long run to see people stay gainfully employed than to keep extending benefits to them that discourage them from working.
 
The system is messed up, but until something better takes its place one asshole in the Senate shouldn't deprive families from the benefits of the current system. DOT just laid off 2000 more workers today. There's a brand new batch of Americans who will now apply for unemployment. There's also a domino effect from it because these families will cut back on consumption from their local grocery store, shopping mall etc. Brilliant.
 
NEVER QUESTION ANYTHING.

Love the public lynch mob set out on this dude trying to be fiscally responsible.

:lol:
 
Until today, it hardly seemed possible that Sen. Jim Bunning, R-Ky., could be more widely despised than he was, but he has succeeded in diminishing his already low stature. Loutish, eccentric and mean, he says that his filibuster against extended unemployment insurance benefits is spurred by his concern over the federal deficit. The jobless and their children may depend on that assistance for rent and food, but Bunning insists that the Obama adminisration use stimulus funding to pay for unemployment extensions. He doesn’t give a damn that on Sunday benefits will run out for hundreds of thousands of struggling families.

While even Bunning’s fellow Republicans dislike him intensely, none of them cares enough about the unemployed to tell him to sit down and shut up. That has been left to the Democrats, who should make Bunning the poster boy of the right-wing filibuster — a symbol of obstructed democracy and discarded humanity.

Here’s a suggestion for anyone who runs into the former baseball pitcher on the Senate floor. Tell him that if he is truly worried about the deficit, he should stop using the Jim Bunning Foundation to shelter the money he makes from baseball memorabilia.

Ever since he was inducted into the National Baseball Hall of Fame, Bunning has operated this phony “charitable” operation as a front for his business selling autographed balls. As this outfit’s sole employee, working one hour a week, he has paid himself hundreds of thousands of dollars over the past 10 years — considerably more than the amount donated to any actual charity.

Indeed, the only charities to which the foundation gives any significant sums are Catholic churches attended by Bunning and his family (so he gets other people to make his religious donations as well). Perhaps those churches ought to reconsider accepting his generosity in light of his nasty conduct toward the unemployed, whose plight is a matter of grave concern to the Catholic hierarchy.

Clearly Bunning is a man of low character, even for someone who belongs to what Twain described as “our only distinctly native American criminal class.” Not only does he exploit a charitable foundation to avoid taxes and ethics rules while greasing his own palm; he actually put a Washington lobbyist on the foundation board — and then arranged budget earmarks for clients of that same lobbyist, who oversees his self-dealing scam. Someone ought to file an ethics complaint against this dreadful, dishonest man.

http://www.salon.com/news/jim_bunning/index.html?story=/opinion/conason/2010/02/26/bunning
 
Doesn't this bill also fund road construction though?
 
http://congress.blogs.foxnews.com/2010/03/02/bunning-drops-filibuster/

Bunning Drops Filibuster

Democrats have reached a deal with Sen. Jim Bunning, R-KY, who has been holding up a bill for days that temporarily extends unemployment insurance and COBRA benefits -- while he insisted that the $10 billion measure be paid for.

Bunning will now get a vote on an amendment that pays for the measure out of unallocated stimulus funds. This is, ironically, what Dems offered Bunning days ago, but Bunning was insistent that all 100 senators accept his amendment -- an unusual move.

But Democrats and late night talk show hosts have pummeled Bunning, and not many of his Republican colleagues have come to his aid.
Under the deal, Bunning will get 2 more votes on amendments to a longer term benefits bill. One would pay for an extension with an across-the-board cut in discretionary spending. The other is to take money from so-called "black liquor" -- keeping it from being eligible for the cellulose biofuels producer tax credit. Bunning said that "would save the Treasury $24 billion."

At 8:30pm, the Senate will vote on Bunning's stimulus amendment -- then on final passage of the temporary extension. It is clear the final passage vote will be overwhelmingly in favor of the bill.

Sen. Dick Durbin, D-IL, the chamber's #2 Dem, has led the charge against Bunning. He argued tonight that members should not support Bunning's move, primarily because, "It is unfortunately a way to delay even further" the benefits, as the House would have to take time to pass this Senate bill (it does not match anything the House would have passed -- so any changes would mean the bill goes back to the House for approval before heading to President Obama for his signature.)

Bunning chided Dems for not supporting "pay as you go" rules recently approved that mandate that any new spending be paid for with offsets (they are referred to as "pay-fors") in the budget, decrying the burdensome, mounting national debt. Dems chided Bunning for not supporting the PAYGO bill and said this is an emergency -- therefore, the bill should not be paid for.

Bunning, in a statement, said of tonight's vote on his amendment, "I hope Senate Democrats tonight vote for their own pay-fors and show Americans that they are committed to fiscal discipline. I will be watching them closely and checking off the hypocrites one by one."

So -- the drama is over....for now (I think).
 
http://www.businessweek.com/news/20...-pass-plan-to-reinstate-jobless-benefits.html

U.S. Senate Likely to Pass Plan to Reinstate Jobless Benefits
March 02, 2010, 9:10 AM EST

March 2 (Bloomberg) -- U.S. Senate Democrats are likely to pass by next week a bill to reinstate unemployment benefits that expired Feb. 28, said Regan Lachapelle, a spokeswoman for Majority Leader Harry Reid.

Jobless benefits for thousands of Americans expired after Senator Jim Bunning, a Kentucky Republican, blocked a one-month continuation designed to keep checks from being interrupted.

The provisions are part of a $150 billion measure intended to boost the economy. The legislation would spend $81 billion to extend the unemployment benefits, including so-called Cobra subsidies to help the jobless buy health insurance, for the rest of this year. It also would send $25 billion to state governments to help prevent layoffs.

In blocking the legislation, Bunning complained that the $10 billion cost would be tacked onto the $1.6 trillion budget deficit.

(my note: $150B bill is not the $10B bill Bunning blocked)
 
The system is messed up, but until something better takes its place one asshole in the Senate shouldn't deprive families from the benefits of the current system. DOT just laid off 2000 more workers today. There's a brand new batch of Americans who will now apply for unemployment. There's also a domino effect from it because these families will cut back on consumption from their local grocery store, shopping mall etc. Brilliant.

No one is going to lose a dime or miss a payment. Bunning is trying to make a point that if you're going to enact PAYGO legislation, you should actually follow the law. Hell, President Obama discussed last week in his radio address. Why won't Congress follow their own law? And if they won't do it for a relatively paltry $10B on a really popular bill, what will they do when hundreds of billions are allocated for something with much less support.
 

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